46% DLC rating. Did it turn out bad?

[777]

Can this add-on be compared to the DLC for Cyberpunk?
After completing the DLC, I returned to the game for many hours, but the DLC was integrated into the game itself, meaning I already had all the items and all the cars from the old save.

As a result, I bought the stronghold definitive edition and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll wait for a 50% discount on DLC.

[Eileen]

Originally posted by DaylightDemon:

Originally posted by Eileen:

One more thing, i have all lv100 party with 100% completion on the base game...
Our savegame carried over the SP, we got level boost; etc...
Im not salty about it, it makes the DLC more enjoyable..

same. what would i actually gain from being 100 with all skills unlocked other than the game being far too easy all of a sudden. why would i care if progress from my base game transfers if it actually doesnt matter at all and just makes it harder to enjoy the dlc?

its actually doesnt load so you can "enjoy" the DLC more..
i totally get why people upset.. but they can just enjoy the DLC as it is.. its also more challenging than base game..
the final boss on base game was joke, because i overleveled.. on this one its a real challenge, like beating post game boss on base game..

idk if overcapping the level is good idea, since not everyone getting lv100 unless they grind + play the post game after ending..
but we dont really have to grind and we got everything eventually, just the accesory that needs grind...

[DaylightDemon]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Originally posted by Rogermkii:

I enjoyed some of the character substories and the Gourdeno and those EX quests. The Skits are pretty good as well. Sadly, this DLC has basically zero new mechanics, no Artes or playable characters...
It took way too long to be released, Xillia 2 and Berseria were released in just one year. I still enjoyed it for what it was.

This games uses UE4 instead of their own old engine, so it's taking times.

Worse, UE5 already comes out...

It's about high time Bamco starts having their own engine instead of relying on another.

what a backwards take. they specifically swapped to UE4 in order to keep up with the market. their old engine was so far behind it wasnt worth to maintain it.
UE4 has much better work flow and many things are easier to implement, especially making a 3rd person action game.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by DaylightDemon:

Originally posted by REhorror:

This games uses UE4 instead of their own old engine, so it's taking times.

Worse, UE5 already comes out...

It's about high time Bamco starts having their own engine instead of relying on another.

what a backwards take. they specifically swapped to UE4 in order to keep up with the market. their old engine was so far behind it wasnt worth to maintain it.
UE4 has much better work flow and many things are easier to implement, especially making a 3rd person action game.

I dunno, man, I haven't been enjoyed 3D action games made by UE4.
Tbh, so far, the UE4 games I enjoyed are stuff like RTS and 2D-HD games.

Look at From Soft, they keep their own engine and keeps trucking on, or Capcom, a smaller company than Bamco, who makes their own engine.

[Rocky]

I think it has to do with most people hated the fact that you can't transfer over your game progress and you are forced to start all over again when you start the dlc even though it's supposed to be a expansion to the current game & not a new stand alone game. The game developers calling it a expansion was misleading to people and they expected to be able to use their current game progress.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by Rocky:

I think it has to do with most people hated the fact that you can't transfer over your game progress and you are forced to start all over again when you start the dlc even though it's supposed to be a expansion to the current game & not a new stand alone game. The game developers calling it a expansion was misleading to people.

I myself don't care much about the save transfer.
What I care is a new playable characters and new Artes or even some new gameplay mechanics.

Nazamil should be playable.

[Player Zer01]

besides the save aspect you have nothing new offered to the game.

the story is meh
the new character is playable
there are no new arts
no new weapons
no new gears
no new maps

for the amount of hype they gave it, theres nothing to show for it. it was just a bad DLC.

[kohiek]

People are being ridiculous about this DLC. It has a 47%, but the new costume DLC which adds 1 costume per character, and 5 songs for half the price is rated 72%. This expansion has 58 skits, and a lot of 3d rendered dialog scenes that I can't count and replay. The developers put a lot of time and effort into the characters and the story. I enjoyed a lot and think it's a good sendoff to this world. There a lot of new content here, and also a lot of reused content.

[DaylightDemon]

Originally posted by kohiek:

People are being ridiculous about this DLC. It has a 47%, but the new costume DLC which adds 1 costume per character, and 5 songs for half the price is rated 72%. This expansion has 58 skits, and a lot of 3d rendered dialog scenes that I can't count and replay. The developers put a lot of time and effort into the characters and the story. I enjoyed a lot and think it's a good sendoff to this world. There a lot of new content here, and also a lot of reused content.

yes, and also no.
it has to do with expecatations. sure, a costume dlc might be super overpriced for what you get, but ppl that want it will not care and buy it anyways. all others will just ignore it. in any way, ppl know what to expect. an expansion however creates a certain expectation. ppl will want new areas, new enemies, content that differs from the main game, adds something to the game thats more than just more of the base game. and on this end, the new dlc doesnt deliver. its rehashed locations, boring dialogue, a meh storyline, rehashed enemies that got reskinned, yeah, but play out exactly the same. no new skills or twists on the battle system. no new playable characters.

[Wicca-san]

Out of curiosity, do the extra skills that come with the 6 original costume DLC work within the expansion or no?

[Sparhawk122]

Originally posted by DaylightDemon:

Originally posted by REhorror:

This games uses UE4 instead of their own old engine, so it's taking times.

Worse, UE5 already comes out...

It's about high time Bamco starts having their own engine instead of relying on another.

what a backwards take. they specifically swapped to UE4 in order to keep up with the market. their old engine was so far behind it wasnt worth to maintain it.
UE4 has much better work flow and many things are easier to implement, especially making a 3rd person action game.

Too bad is does not fix the NPC pop in issues.

[Kobi Blade]

Originally posted by kohiek:

People are being ridiculous about this DLC. It has a 47%, but the new costume DLC which adds 1 costume per character, and 5 songs for half the price is rated 72%. This expansion has 58 skits, and a lot of 3d rendered dialog scenes that I can't count and replay. The developers put a lot of time and effort into the characters and the story. I enjoyed a lot and think it's a good sendoff to this world. There a lot of new content here, and also a lot of reused content.

The DLC was clearly forced by the Publisher, since the developers confirmed there would no DLC for this game, like most Tales games.

Most of us want the next Tales entry, and not this cash crab DLC.

[SharpenedRazors]

DLC bad.

[Varlo]

The original development team didn't even make the DLC. It was a much smaller studio called YUKES that did everything and originally only worked on porting the main game.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by cciacona:

The original development team didn't even make the DLC. It was a much smaller studio called YUKES that did everything and originally only worked on porting the main game.

Wait, that true?
YUKE is a japanese studio known for outsourcing.

[Varlo]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Originally posted by cciacona:

The original development team didn't even make the DLC. It was a much smaller studio called YUKES that did everything and originally only worked on porting the main game.

Wait, that true?
YUKE is a japanese studio known for outsourcing.

Yep, here:
https://www.yukes.co.jp/en/service-en/games-en/works/
"YUKE’S worked on development on all platforms, including level design, battle implementation programming, and cutscene creation."
Also the credits of the DLC.