So does anyone know what exactly are in the deluxe and ultimate edition?

[nit3mar30]

i dont see any info on the game store about what exactly are in those packs

[Sage Pirotess]

Its there

[Cloudst]

The Deluxe Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, and Adventurer's Pack.

and

The Ultimate Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, Adventurer's Pack, Collaboration Costume Pack, and 18 additional costumes.

[8myers8]

The info is down the home page a bit mate ...just below PRE-PURCHASE OFFER

[nit3mar30]

Originally posted by Cloudst:

The Deluxe Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, and Adventurer's Pack.

and

The Ultimate Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, Adventurer's Pack, Collaboration Costume Pack, and 18 additional costumes.

But what exactly are the travel packs and adventure packs and ♥♥♥♥?

[Cloudst]

Originally posted by nit3mar30:

Originally posted by Cloudst:

The Deluxe Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, and Adventurer's Pack.

and

The Ultimate Edition includes the Tales of Arise full game, Premium Travel Pack, Adventurer's Pack, Collaboration Costume Pack, and 18 additional costumes.

But what exactly are the travel packs and adventure packs and ♥♥♥♥?

Assuming it'll be something like the starter pack for Vesperia which has a bunch of items to help you in game.

[InvertedSphere]

They are just the result of years of conditioning gamers. Instead of getting the full game at full price, they tear it apart and sell pieces back to you in different packages. The masses have not only accepted this shameless greed, but they've embraced it. Just wait and see what they pull 10 years from now and how quickly everyone will accept that, as well.

[Variant]

Originally posted by InvertedSphere:

They are just the result of years of conditioning gamers. Instead of getting the full game at full price, they tear it apart and sell pieces back to you in different packages. The masses have not only accepted this shameless greed, but they've embraced it. Just wait and see what they pull 10 years from now and how quickly everyone will accept that, as well.

Fully expect this game to have $100+ worth of costumes/item packs by the end of its life. That said the game itself is looking pretty good

[kaworu83]

I bet they will be items to make you op in the early game. They have been doing this almost with every game in the franchise. Nothing a true gamer finds worth to buy.

[Dollmaster]

Deluxe and Ultimate = Cream API

[Moonflame]

they want $25 for an adventure pack and another $25 for costumes? what a blatant rip off. I would definitely stick to standard edition. bandai deluxe editions are never worth it. don't buy it in advance.

[Faint]

In my experience the extra cost for Tales games at least is only worth it if you're a super fan, it's mostly cosmetics and items to make the game easier from the start.... I don't think I remember them ever making a story DLC outside of mobile even but I could be wrong.

[nit3mar30]

Originally posted by InvertedSphere:

They are just the result of years of conditioning gamers. Instead of getting the full game at full price, they tear it apart and sell pieces back to you in different packages. The masses have not only accepted this shameless greed, but they've embraced it. Just wait and see what they pull 10 years from now and how quickly everyone will accept that, as well.

It's true, so many stuff have been normalised that once upon a time we were angry that bugthesda had the nerve to sell horse armour and look at us now shrugging at horse armor and say eh, it could be worse.

Same with battle pass and season pass, once upon a time, we be spitting on them and look at us now, jumping onto those pass.

It's the same with games and patches, in the olden days, we would have a game that's pretty much bug free and a week or 2 down the line for the remaining patch to fix most of the issues but now? we expect Day 0 patches because of cos the game are gonna be buggy af on release, it's what we come to expect from any AAA games that are squirted onto the market.

And what's up with looter shooters and the nerf in loot, anthem and destiny and most recently outriders, do these people not play looter shooters? Loot is the draw of the game and yet, nerfing the loot is always their go to method for padding out game time.


Back to topic:

Ya, i had to go to bandai official site to see just what exactly diff between regular version and the deluxe and ultimate edition.

https://store.bandainamcoent.eu/eu/product/634154/tales-of-arise-ultimate-collector-pc-download

and

https://store.bandainamcoent.eu/eu/product/634160/tales-of-arise-deluxe-edition-pc-download

As far as i can tell, deluxe cost additional 25 bucks (in my region) for 6 more outfits

and ultimate edition cost a further 25 bucks on top of that for 12 costumes + some other unknown costume .

Steam is right that there are 18 costumes in total, that's just being technical.

Also, bandai own site has collector edition and plushies for those who want something nifty and have the financial capability to get them, i would love to grab them but oh well, thanks covid for screwing with my living hood and just to add on, the plushie edition does not come with those outfits.

[inFantry-32]

Originally posted by InvertedSphere:

They are just the result of years of conditioning gamers. Instead of getting the full game at full price, they tear it apart and sell pieces back to you in different packages. The masses have not only accepted this shameless greed, but they've embraced it. Just wait and see what they pull 10 years from now and how quickly everyone will accept that, as well.

Bruh you realize Inflation is happening right now as we speak?

https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html

$60 games were introduced in 2005 and since then the value of that $60 has risen to in our post hyper-inflation world $82 in today's money.

At this point developers have to make games crappier, shorter, buggier to do one of the following. Meet deadlined & keep the budget from whiling out of control.

$60 is alot of money simply because wages haven't increased with the inflation so we didn't earn more money as a result, but the Devs need around $82 to make around the same profit as they would have when Tales of made most of their games.

The Deluxe Edition exists as a path to making what they really want to make, but it's also the same reason they cut content bc you don't want to spend more money which is fine tbh.

Just don't complain when Triple A studios cut content and resell it, because at the end of the day Game Dev is expensive especially now & since Tqales of is moving to Unreal Engine, Epic Games will make 5% of the profit rather than the devs taking all profit.

So the Developers don't even make the full $60, nor the value of that $60 when they started this franchise.

[Pr0xiimity]

Epic will make the 5% plus don't forget the 30% that steam takes for allowing devs/publishers to sell the game on there platform. That's 35% that they will not see which when it comes to game sales or any big business really is a huge number. I personally understand why devs are doing this, hard to be mad at them tbh

[kiteless 凧無し]

just some overpriced crap to get you to spend even more money