The boss fights are impossible

[Happy.Cerberus]

I must me missing some game mechanic, but the damage output of the bosses is just insane.

I'm stuck on Vohlran, I can't get past his second form.

I literally can't use revives and healing potions fast enough.

I have the top armours and the top weapons and the 50% Water defence.

The previous bosses were hard, but this is just ridiculous.

[Vertanius]

I played as the MC, the boss just ran towards me for 95% of the fight, I just ran with aggro up acc while the rest of the team shred him with ranged attacks, I'm playing on hard.

Hell, he's one of the easiest bosses to kill as long as you don't run in him and get spagetti'd

[Washing Machine]

Shamefully cheesed him by double jumping high into sky with Rinwell and spamming magic to float forever while he just ran circles under her getting mauled.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Originally posted by astranabeat:

The dual boss before him was harder than Vohlran himself imo. You should play Rinwell in boss fight. She will make you life easier than play melee and stuck in animation and get hit.

Bro I hit a point where I discovered Rinwell was the best character when they forced me off Shionne prior to the water area.... Rinwell was all kinds of broken. I 100%-ed the game using Rinwell, I even cleared the 'super-hard level 99/100 boss rush thing' with Rinwell and co at like level 70... she is super cheesy if you know how to make her fly indefinitely, andwith double jump pretty much 80%-90% of enemy attacks will not hit her. You just have to memorize the dodge patterns that will!

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

Shamefully cheesed him by double jumping high into sky with Rinwell and spamming magic to float forever while he just ran circles under her getting mauled.

Lmao I didn't see your post but I literally just posted the same thing. Rinwell cheese is so strong. She is literally the strongest character in the game once you learn how to cheese with her, and if you spec her with Mystic Crest I believe (or Farie can't remember) -cast time and use accessory combining cast times for OP tier 4 arts is almost instant when you store a tier 1 spell to cutcast times even further (the item can be -40% cast time) + the time reduction from storing a spell!

Spam Meteor is hilarious.

[Nephi]

Maybe play one of the healers yourself? The healer ai not being able to keep the rest of my ai party members alive seemed to be one of my main problems early on.

I played most of game as Shionne(when she was in the party) on hard because of that and the only bosses that gave me any trouble were those with multiple adds which left me barely any time to throw out heals in the early game (Ganabelt and the slime boss before that).

Once I got the skill to reduce my cast time with increasing combo length the game became a cakewalk (also reducing 3 or 4 AG damage spells to roughly a second of cast time without any gear is a nice bonus as well).

[Faint]

Played on hardest difficulty with Alphen, Shionne, Do, and Rinwell and I had to dodge for basically 5 minutes throwing Demon Fangs at him and kiting him around the field since he seemed to focus on Alphen for w/e reason. The AoE attack can be dodged if you never stop tapping the dodge btw.

To get actual damage on him I only ever attacked after using either Alphen or Do's boost attack to stagger him for a few seconds. I would stagger than attack with an easy move that leads into whatever blazing sword move I thought I could get off and basically waste all my HP charging for that one attack and than dodge away and wait to be healed so I could do the whole thing again.

The end of the fight when he starts glowing you basically just want to run until he stops glowing like all other bosses, you won't stop his special attack on hard mode so best option is this dodge, stagger, blazing sword combo imo first time through the game.

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side note - he's still easier than that stupidly poorly balanced slime in the sewers on hard mode....

[A birbday Aya]

TBH, i feel like the game has a lot of issues with difficulty balancing throughout. Bandai Namco Studios is probably aware of this too since I think i had about 2-3 KOs during the Almedria boss fight and still got +47 grade on Moderate. I can't imagine how well the Vohlran boss will play out if i'm gonna have to dial back to Normal with his pets.

[Old Dragon]

Originally posted by Vertanius:

I played as the MC, the boss just ran towards me for 95% of the fight, I just ran with aggro up acc while the rest of the team shred him with ranged attacks, I'm playing on hard.

Hell, he's one of the easiest bosses to kill as long as you don't run in him and get spagetti'd

This

[Washing Machine]

Pretty sure the AI is set up to focus on the player character primarily, hence why all the "it kept attacking em"-posts. It's common in action combat-systems like this, since the teammate AI is usually pretty unreliable so it's better to let the players themselves deal with dodging/blocking.

Hardo modo I still think that giant slime in the sewers was the hardest boss.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Vertanius:

I played as the MC, the boss just ran towards me for 95% of the fight, I just ran with aggro up acc while the rest of the team shred him with ranged attacks, I'm playing on hard.

Hell, he's one of the easiest bosses to kill as long as you don't run in him and get spagetti'd

Also this, though I didn't even need the aggro accessory (though good idea to help further reign in his behavior just in case). I found he very heavily aggro'd on me and I did plenty of damage but focused on dodging his attacks and then for this particular boss most of his moves end with a long recovery delay before he acts again so you can DPS him. In the meantime your AI partners can help smack down on him, too. The damage adds up. As you become more comfortable with dodging him and timing you can also ramp up your aggressiveness you may find.

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

Shamefully cheesed him by double jumping high into sky with Rinwell and spamming magic to float forever while he just ran circles under her getting mauled.

Hilarious.

[[CU] Dolphin]

Difficulty is largely based on level difference from what I saw. I was playing on normal and wasn't doing anything special. I was only 1 level under him when I fought him, but he was still fairly difficult. I had Shionne and Dohalim in my party to keep the healing up, and you can use Dohalim to slow him down. Also, if I'm right to assume, he doesn't only use water damage in this fight, and can actually use other elements like lightning, which I would use the protection for since his lightning attacks aren't telegraphed and can happen instantly.

[kyto1984]

I beat him 1st try maining Kisara. It's hilarious because he keeps flipping around her while the rest of the party beat the hell out of him. With her block up, practically all damage is pathetic. Plus, Kisara simply has the easiest counters, nullifying that little tick damage completely.

[EbonySeraphim]

Vholran was a sufficiently hard fight(moderate setting), especially since I control Law who is the word character for that kind of enemy (small sized, fast moving, unjugglable boss). The key issue Law's artes easily miss Vholran and don't track him well while he moves a lot compared to the wide swings of Dohalim and Alphen. All the while, Vholran has a pretty long sword and though he does swing wide and high sometimes, he's accurate enoguh.

That being said like others, to me Vholran was still not close the hardest boss encounter, but probably because by the time I was fighting him I had learned and fully understood how to handle the scenario and stopped running into damage. Honestly, the first encounter with Vholran I found harder than the following one. Him being a small boss means it's universally harder to see his attack animation visually, especially when there are a lot of effects on the screen blasting him to astral space. It feels bad to just run around defensively for a while, but you need to do this to establish his attack patterns clearly and react. When you're able to see the cues for boss attacks, they go from what seems like relentless attacking to "wow, this guy is actually very stupid." Maybe there's a nasty sequence here or there, but it's all very predictable.

I don't think having 50% water reduction is critical in this fight. His actual water moves weren't the highest risk to me. Though large, his water spells are easy to see coming, dodgable, and most importantly, Rinwell can cancel them and that boost attack should be reserved for doing this. His sword is nasty though so defense can help.

I like the Rinwell strategies posted here and they are absolutely true and part of the beauty/fun of this battle system that makes fights fun and varied. Because he's a short boss with few jumping attacks or high reaching projectiles characters who can hit him from the air are super safe regardless of what he's doing. Dohalim has at least one arte that he can use from mid air, and Shionne has plenty as well of course. On the flipside, as Law or even Alphen, if you're in the air the only way you hit targets on the ground is if you are coming down yourself. And Kisara just doesn't really jump all that much...so.

[Uzkniso o.o]

If you struggled with Vholran, you will truly enjoy the fight with the deer(s).

As for Vholran, a few boost attacks bring him into downed state: Alphens and Dohalims (can't remember if someone elses worked like that). Cycle between them for an easier fight.

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Azurain:

I'd say Vohlran is actually one of the easier bosses this game throws at you late game. Alot of his fight is dodging and waiting for a window to hit him whenever possible. Also, I don't know if you are aware of this but you can actually chaindodge his mystic arte in phase 2 so you don't take any damage.

You are gonna have to struggle with your allies stupidity regardless though.

This 100% I found Vholran significantly easier than the previous boss. In fact I exhausted nearly all consumables against the previous boss on a blind run and was able to beat Vholran with the fraction of items I had left.