Confirmed to be censored

[Warxa]

They just revealed crossover costumes. Nina Williams's costume has been censored, an iconic costume that she had been wearing in every game since Tekken 5.

This may seem minor, but it adds credibility to the rumors that they censored a lot more content, like the removal of costumes, cutscenes, dialogues, etc

And Bandai Namco says in the same day that the game won't be censored, literally lying to their customers. I won't be supporting them ever again.

[Kriya Takagi]

when it comes to game censorship if its just aesthetic then i really dont care. long as none of the core gameplay is removed im fine with it.

[Makena]

Messaggio originale di redsimonDE:

Messaggio originale di Lecrazam:

I do not know why people whine about this... it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PC game. The files are on your PC mods exist.... If they have to do certain things to get a certain PEGI, CERO or ESRB rating then so be it. But you are getting on PC for the specific reason that the user can mod the game.

It is really not hard to think before posting.

The censorship we are talking about has nothing to do with ratings.

There are many reasons for a user to get a game on PC, and not just one.

None of us work at Bandai Namco so to claim a censor is not to meet some ratings board requirement or the over reaction to what might be perceived as something above T. Look at PSO2 : NG. as a example... it has a M rating for some pretty non-factor things in my opinion.

And sure there are more reasons to get it on PC other than that BUT complaining about a censor when the files are not on absolute lock down is to me ridiculous. We all know that those that want it will just swap the files out.

[Xariot]

Messaggio originale di Mr. Matt:

Messaggio originale di Xariot:

I love when games get "censored" because it upsets all the perverts and it's funny.

You must be disappointed about this game, then, because it's not censored. =) Bandai Namco has declared that there is no censorship in this game, and not one person has provided evidence of a single incident of censorship in Tales of Arise! =D

That's why I put it in ""'s...

[redsimonDE]

Messaggio originale di Lecrazam:

Messaggio originale di redsimonDE:

It is really not hard to think before posting.

The censorship we are talking about has nothing to do with ratings.

There are many reasons for a user to get a game on PC, and not just one.

None of us work at Bandai Namco so to claim a censor is not to meet some ratings board requirement...

So you suddenly agree that it is censorship?
LOL your mental gymnastics and double standards are a joke.

[Caidezes]

Why the hell does anyone care. Most of the alternate costumes don't even fit the setting. Get that unimmersive nonsense outta here.

[Kriya Takagi]

Messaggio originale di Caidezes:

Why the hell does anyone care. Most of the alternate costumes don't even fit the setting. Get that unimmersive nonsense outta here.

how do you get immersed when the game shows on screen character profiles and what buttons do what. the immersion train left long ago my friend

[Caidezes]

Messaggio originale di Koyuta kota:

Messaggio originale di Caidezes:

Why the hell does anyone care. Most of the alternate costumes don't even fit the setting. Get that unimmersive nonsense outta here.

how do you get immersed when the game shows on screen character profiles and what buttons do what. the immersion train left long ago my friend

Are you saying you don't get immersed in a good UI system? No glorious menu management mania? smh

[redsimonDE]

Messaggio originale di Caidezes:

Why the hell does anyone care. Most of the alternate costumes don't even fit the setting. Get that unimmersive nonsense outta here.

They are unimmersive on purpose. It seems you never played any Japanese game.

[Mr. Matt]

Yeah, you can put like a dolphin head on Mikleo in Tales of Zestiria or some such. We can make our characters look really goofy and such in a some of the games.

[SoulEchelon]

Are you all serious? I'm just gonna leave these screenshots here, along with the video I got them from.

http://puu.sh/I5FK1/b8234f4af6.jpg <-- Thighs, easy upskirt.

http://puu.sh/I5FKr/6291d355f9.jpg <-- Pronounced cleavage.

http://puu.sh/I5FKT/db7dfc5380.jpg <-- Ultra cleavage.

http://puu.sh/I5FLb/b803472dd8.jpg <-- Bikini outfit.

http://puu.sh/I5FLl/e1b94d3602.jpg <-- full body pic of the bikini outfit.

The vid these pics came from:
https://youtu.be/T_mFKwza6Ew

And here you all are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the sides of her stomach being covered in a collab outfit.

There is no censorship. If there was, NONE of these outfits would exist in this game. Why did they change the Nina Williams collab outfit? I don't know. I'm gonna guess due to artistic license. Could also legitimately be a nefarious reason - maybe they wanted to make sure you thirsty bois paid extra for skin so the collab outfit isn't as fleshy. Don't know, don't care. But it's NOT censorship.

And with that, I'm outta here. Not even subbing to this discussion because I refuse to bump it after this post.

[Seagal]

Messaggio originale di SoulEchelon:

There is no censorship. If there was, NONE of these outfits would exist in this game. Why did they change the Nina Williams collab outfit? I don't know. I'm gonna guess due to artistic license. Could also legitimately be a nefarious reason - maybe they wanted to make sure you thirsty bois paid extra for skin so the collab outfit isn't as fleshy. Don't know, don't care. But it's NOT censorship.

And with that, I'm outta here. Not even subbing to this discussion because I refuse to bump it after this post.

We've all seen the costumes before, and know there's skin showing, cleavage, up-skirts, and whatever else with some of the costumes. But that just makes the change to the Nina Williams costume even more strange. It's like why even do that? Surely Bandai Namco had to know how some gamers would react to seeing that, right? Of course people would immediately scream censorship.

The idea here would be to never give people excuses to not buy your game, especially when it's challenging peoples principles. If the costume needed to be changed, they should have immediately done a different costume instead that wouldn't have needed to be altered. If it was too late in production to change it, they should have temporarily delayed the pack, and released it later. Doing that would remove any negative conversation from even beginning and potentially spreading.

You don't know what's going on here either. You say there's no censorship, but then immediately contradict yourself by saying you don't know why they changed it.

These are the facts - The Nina Williams costume is changed, and the change made was that the bare skin around the hip area (which extended towards her front and rear) on the original costume is covered up in the Tales of Arise version. That's all we know.

Bandai Namco said “Tales of Arise will be released on September 10, 2021, on PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, and PC. All versions will include the same story and features, without any form of censorship.”

Does that mean that there's just no censorship between versions, or that's there's no censorship at all, period? Because if it's the latter than the Nina costume would sort of suggest otherwise. And would you really expect them to come out and say they had to change the costume? Of course not. This is damage control on their part.

I don't think this is a big deal either. I'm never going to use any of the collaboration costumes despite owning the pack. I've never really like collaboration costumes, and plus I'm really quite pleased with the other costume packs, and most of them are gonna get a lot of screen time on the girls. Assuming of course they don't sneak Denuvo in, because that will get me to refund.

[Mr. Matt]

Messaggio originale di Seagal:

Messaggio originale di SoulEchelon:

There is no censorship. If there was, NONE of these outfits would exist in this game. Why did they change the Nina Williams collab outfit? I don't know. I'm gonna guess due to artistic license. Could also legitimately be a nefarious reason - maybe they wanted to make sure you thirsty bois paid extra for skin so the collab outfit isn't as fleshy. Don't know, don't care. But it's NOT censorship.

And with that, I'm outta here. Not even subbing to this discussion because I refuse to bump it after this post.

We've all seen the costumes before, and know there's skin showing, cleavage, up-skirts, and whatever else with some of the costumes. But that just makes the change to the Nina Williams costume even more strange. It's like why even do that? Surely Bandai Namco had to know how some gamers would react to seeing that, right? Of course people would immediately scream censorship.

The idea here would be to never give people excuses to not buy your game, especially when it's challenging peoples principles. If the costume needed to be changed, they should have immediately done a different costume instead that wouldn't have needed to be altered. If it was too late in production to change it, they should have temporarily delayed the pack, and released it later. Doing that would remove any negative conversation from even beginning and potentially spreading.

You don't know what's going on here either. You say there's no censorship, but then immediately contradict yourself by saying you don't know why they changed it.

These are the facts - The Nina Williams costume is changed, and the change made was that the bare skin around the hip area (which extended towards her front and rear) on the original costume is covered up in the Tales of Arise version. That's all we know.

Bandai Namco said “Tales of Arise will be released on September 10, 2021, on PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, and PC. All versions will include the same story and features, without any form of censorship.”

Does that mean that there's just no censorship between versions, or that's there's no censorship at all, period? Because if it's the latter than the Nina costume would sort of suggest otherwise. And would you really expect them to come out and say they had to change the costume? Of course not. This is damage control on their part.

I don't think this is a big deal either. I'm never going to use any of the collaboration costumes despite owning the pack. I've never really like collaboration costumes, and plus I'm really quite pleased with the other costume packs, and most of them are gonna get a lot of screen time on the girls. Assuming of course they don't sneak Denuvo in, because that will get me to refund.

I like to stick to evidence and facts, and the best information right now is that there is no censorship and will be no censorship in this game. Bandai-Namco says there is no censorship, and no one has provided any evidence that something was put into Arise, then changed for being seen as inappropriate.

[Musou]

No the Nina DLC costume is definitely censored, same type of censorship that happened to the PS4 version of Death End re:Quest 2, just changing the color of the textures that were supposed to show skin.
Seeing the ingame costumes though I really don't understand why, one explanation could be that the designer of the Nina costume did it on his or her own, either for ideological reasons or becasue he or she thought he or she has to do that, because there is no way in hell that bit of skin the original Nina costume shows would raise the age rating,

[Mr. Matt]

Messaggio originale di Musou:

No the Nina DLC costume is definitely censored, same type of censorship that happened to the PS4 version of Death End re:Quest 2, just changing the color of the textures that were supposed to show skin.
Seeing the ingame costumes though I really don't understand why, one explanation could be that the designer of the Nina costume did it on his or her own, either for ideological reasons or becasue he or she thought he or she has to do that, because there is no way in hell that bit of skin the original Nina costume shows would raise the age rating,

Per Bandai-Namco, it's not censored, and despite this entire thread, not one person has put forth evidence to show that a model was created in Arise based on Nina's outfit, and that someone then changed the model that had been created in Arise. That's what's required for it to have been censored. If an actor in a film says "dang" despite the word originating from the word "damn," it's only been censored if they change pre-existing script for the film/show to say "dang" instead of "damn." If the script said "dang" in the first place, it's not censorship. Same thing here with the costume situation.

[Musou]

Messaggio originale di Mr. Matt:

Messaggio originale di Musou:

No the Nina DLC costume is definitely censored, same type of censorship that happened to the PS4 version of Death End re:Quest 2, just changing the color of the textures that were supposed to show skin.
Seeing the ingame costumes though I really don't understand why, one explanation could be that the designer of the Nina costume did it on his or her own, either for ideological reasons or becasue he or she thought he or she has to do that, because there is no way in hell that bit of skin the original Nina costume shows would raise the age rating,

Per Bandai-Namco, it's not censored, and despite this entire thread, not one person has put forth evidence to show that a model was created in Arise based on Nina's outfit, and that someone then changed the model that had been created in Arise. That's what's required for it to have been censored. If an actor in a film says "dang" despite the word originating from the word "damn," it's only been censored if they change pre-existing script for the film/show to say "dang" instead of "damn." If the script said "dang" in the first place, it's not censorship. Same thing here with the costume situation.

You are wrong, this is a crossover costume, it already existed in an uncensored form for a long time, just because you put clothes from someone on another character doesn't magically cover up skin that was exposed on the original wearer, like were is that fabric suddenly coming from?
And no, Bamco never said that the optional DLC costumes aren't censored, they only said that the main game is uncensored, this is the same situation as with Atelier Ryza 2, uncensored main game but some DLC costumes were.