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The 2nd "Lord" fight
I'mma be honest - couldn't tell what the hell was going on, All the effects as well as all your party members attacking all over the place - it was just a cluster♥♥♥♥

Basically had to burn through half my resources up to this point to beat him; basically spammed random buttons until I won. This was on normal difficulty. Items are expensive as bollocks and I really don't want to have to deplete my entire stock just so my team can tank 1-shot attacks from bosses.

Someone please tell me this gets better. My enthusiasm for playing this game is waning; and I fear "easy" difficulty will be too easy. It's mainly only the bosses or "lords" that I struggle on; the regular enemies you meet aren't the problem

Edit:
Nice to know I wasn't the only one struggling. but you have to admit the boss has some 'badly designed elements' to put it lightly.
Last edited by PossessingSpirit09; Sep 13, 2021 @ 5:11pm
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Sage Sep 13, 2021 @ 7:55am 
you'll want to make 4 of the accessories to lower light damage by 50%. Makes it much easier.
Prøxy Sep 13, 2021 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Sage:
you'll want to make 4 of the accessories to lower light damage by 50%. Makes it much easier.
I don't think people give much care to the accessories system even though it will pretty much make most boss fights much easier.
Originally posted by Sage:
you'll want to make 4 of the accessories to lower light damage by 50%. Makes it much easier.
I was already doing that. How do ya think my team managed to tank his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attack?
dustin1280 Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:07am 
I'm curious OP, how hard did you consider the first lord? Because I keep hearing about WILDLY varying difficulties, but so far this game has been not NEARLY as hard as some proclaim it to be...
Endarion Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by dustin1280:
I'm curious OP, how hard did you consider the first lord? Because I keep hearing about WILDLY varying difficulties, but so far this game has been not NEARLY as hard as some proclaim it to be...

not OP but i found the first lord really easy

second one is hard for 2 factors
1 there is so much special effect and the room overall is really birght i couldn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ see sh*t at times

2 dunno if it was just me but i did not understand how to stop his ultimate attack that would nearly kill all my party members
Originally posted by dustin1280:
I'm curious OP, how hard did you consider the first lord? Because I keep hearing about WILDLY varying difficulties, but so far this game has been not NEARLY as hard as some proclaim it to be...
He was manageable to an extent. I mean he was hard, but after a couple of tries got him as well.
Its just that with the increase in party members and their skills, its becoming a lot harder to make sense of what's going on screen which just adds to the difficulty. Not to mention the 1 hit attacks that I basically have to tank etc....
Cookies Pie Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:12am 
i had to turn shionne into healing only this b*** cant heal for ♥♥♥♥ when your at 1 hp for like 1min your dude comeon and when she was about to heal you press 2 and your yea im brain dead....
Originally posted by OutSeal:
Originally posted by dustin1280:
I'm curious OP, how hard did you consider the first lord? Because I keep hearing about WILDLY varying difficulties, but so far this game has been not NEARLY as hard as some proclaim it to be...

not OP but i found the first lord really easy

second one is hard for 2 factors
1 there is so much special effect and the room overall is really birght i couldn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ see sh*t at times

2 dunno if it was just me but i did not understand how to stop his ultimate attack that would nearly kill all my party members
yea, i think it was designed/intended that your party was to tank the ultimate attack. there is slim chance that you could take down all 4 of those decoys, plus you can heal and revive back afterwards; it's just really draining on resources

Money is really hard to come by in this game for some reason
dustin1280 Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by PossessingSpirit09:
Originally posted by dustin1280:
I'm curious OP, how hard did you consider the first lord? Because I keep hearing about WILDLY varying difficulties, but so far this game has been not NEARLY as hard as some proclaim it to be...
He was manageable to an extent. I mean he was hard, but after a couple of tries got him as well.
Its just that with the increase in party members and their skills, its becoming a lot harder to make sense of what's going on screen which just adds to the difficulty. Not to mention the 1 hit attacks that I basically have to tank etc....
Gotcha, thanks!

Looking forward to the second lord as the first one disappointed me (difficulty-wise)
regonel64578 Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:27am 
For me, the fight itself was not "Hard" per-se, but really draining. I'm talking about Normal Difficulty. I had (Everyone has to have) the Alexandrite Accessory, which reduces damage from the boss by 50%. My party was at Level 16. But the main problem was -

I was out of Orange Gels, and no one was willing to sell some. Even the maps did not drop it. In all Tales Games, Orange Gel is the most basic healing (MP Restoring) Item. Here CP/MP is consumed by the map puzzles + auto healing during mob battles. Without Orange Gels (And with no way to get some), the boss fight forced me to literally burn down all my other consumables. This is in addition to the fact that the AI party members all targeted different adds during the Indignation (One Hit Spell) Cast - which meant no chance of Boost Attacks.

Overall, rather than a genuine "Hard" boss, this was more of a bad design, which led to frustration.

The other bad part is that Exp given in random battles is just sad. Which means you can't even grind. You also have to hope for the "Dog Tag" Item drops to sell if you want gil. Unlike past games, there is no way to get gil directly via battles. Overall, all of this was just bad design I feel.
Last edited by regonel64578; Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:28am
KPL Sep 13, 2021 @ 8:41am 
I just killed 2nd boss on hard and just like you I spend almost all my item and the dps check to stop his ult I'm not even sure it's possible(I was lv 16),unless you out lv him by a large margin :steamfacepalm:
Headmaster_Kuma Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:02am 
The second lord was certainly a hike up in difficulty and making me waste items. Opening up the fight by controlling Law to break his shield was a must and then switching between Law and Alphen to keep combos up (pretty slow process since its not a quick character switch, gotta lock on to the boss then switch party members) while praying Shionne wouldn't walk up and get blapped in the face.

As for the DPS check, I don't know if its even possible to beat that check, the average level for that area seems to be 16 (I was 16 as well) and I was able to only beat 2 clones but the mystic arte still went off. Wearing those resistance accessories was a MUST or it would be a party wipe.

Needless to say after the fight I have pretty much no items and pretty much flat broke rebuying my life bottles back

EDIT: I also wish we could trigger Overlimit our own rather then just having it happen at random..would have been nice to fire off some mystic artes during the DPS check then at the beginning of the gosh darn fight cause that's when Overlimit decided to kick in >.>
Last edited by Headmaster_Kuma; Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:05am
Messuri Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:17am 
Buy the best Gear and Weapons and skill your Talents. I was lvl 16. Was a tough fight on hard but possible. u need items for HP. Or enough to ressurect.
Zyloc Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:30am 
With the accessories on Hard the fight was makeable, but not fun.

I think this boss fight was bad designed:
1. You can't see sh!t, if there are 3 clones and your party spamming effects all over the place.
2. I think the boss cast isn't interruptible, if you are not overleveled. So you must take this hit.
3. The boss is 3 level higher then your party. Most players are Lv 16 at this point, without MTX. So you would need around 150 encounters to get on the level of the boss. This can't be intended. The encounters after this fight has lower levels for some reason. Same with the first boss.
(4.) It's impossible to prevent that your party is getting hit by something. So you must spend items. It's not bad, but unusual, that you spend such a big amount of money for useable items.
Id3alistic Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:31am 
I only struggled the first couple times because I didn't have enough healing items. But I learned that the tags the renan soldiers drop sell for good amount of gald so I farmed enough to stock up on apple gels and life bottles. 3rd time was a breeze.
Last edited by Id3alistic; Sep 13, 2021 @ 9:32am
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