The Writing is so... so bad.

[Wish Maker]

Buyer beware on this one people; this is some deep deep elementary school levels of writing, with exposition characters left and right and people constantly spouting information they should already know; or characters around them should already know. What's worse? You're pelted with this crap for a LONG time before the game even lets you play.

The first portions of this "Game" are too damn busy trying to convince you there isn't a super-cliche story ahead of you, but only achieves the opposite! I can only endure so much at a time before I have to keep shutting off the game. Ugh...

[Wish Maker]

artyomr0bot の投稿を引用：

I understood your opinion, but I did not understand why you created the thread. As far as I understand, you just want to disagree with you and take offense at you. Or are you just uncomfortable that someone can enjoy what you think is bad?

Neither! There doesn't have to be some sort of motive or stance to take. I just wanted to share that the Writing was God Awful. My first post stated as much, "Buyer Beware" -- so the target audience is anyone who has not purchased the game yet and may wonder if the story is any good.

Otherwise, posting in the thread itself is more about sharing thoughts. Again, it's not as though my identity is dependent on people knowing my opinions. Nope. The story is god awful and I just like to talk about that subject! (I'm a writer, so it's what we kinda do.)

[Minute-globe]

yeah no ♥♥♥♥ the trails series wipes the floor with everything else, thats falcom's magnum opus

[JayJay]

Berseria was extremely well written for a jrpg.

[dustin1280]

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So, in conclusion, Trails of cold steel is garbage and you should hate yourself for liking it.

I rather pity you for having garbage taste in JRPG.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly I am going to agree with Cold Steel being an issue...

Cold Steel's story and writing is easily the WORST of the trails series. It's full of ridiculously over the top anime cliches (even worse than predecessors) and the story is stretched MUCH longer than it needs to be.

Don't get me wrong, the trails series is actually one my favorite series of all time, but please don't call Cold Steel the gold standard, because its easily the worst. Both crossbell and sky put it to shame

[Algester]

I dunno I mean the writting is predictable for the most part reminds me a bit of Tales of Code Geass

[Izziee]

System Senpai の投稿を引用：

Buyer beware on this one people; this is some deep deep elementary school levels of writing, with exposition characters left and right and people constantly spouting information they should already know; or characters around them should already know. What's worse? You're pelted with this crap for a LONG time before the game even lets you play.

The first portions of this "Game" are too damn busy trying to convince you there isn't a super-cliche story ahead of you, but only achieves the opposite! I can only endure so much at a time before I have to keep shutting off the game. Ugh...

Haven't played this, but I know exactly what you mean. It's very much a Japanese thing, the thing is, often they have long and/or pointless tutorials, over explanations of the most minute thing, or telling the most basic of things in a ridiculous childish fashion....then have a billion of confusing systems/mechanics that have absolutely no explanation for.

It's something I've come to loathe in Japanese games, which would otherwise be knocking the game out of the park in a home run. Some games are worse than others though. Was hoping it wasn't the case here but won't stop me buying it....but Bandai tend to put things on sale quickly, and I not long ago bought Scarlet Nexus which I haven't yet started that already had a 30% off on ps5.

[Wish Maker]

Izziee の投稿を引用：

It's very much a Japanese thing, the thing is, often they have long and/or pointless tutorials, over explanations of the most minute thing, or telling the most basic of things in a ridiculous childish fashion

But I don't mean this. I mean stuff like...

1) A character stating their name to their own minions.
2) A "mysterious female" held prisoner who has some insane power.
3) Characters who only appear to deliver exposition and then fade out of the story entirely.
4) Dialogue scenes between characters that don't explore the characters, but merely exchange information both characters should, and clearly do, already share common knowledge about.

[Ryulightorb]

System Senpai の投稿を引用：

Izziee の投稿を引用：

It's very much a Japanese thing, the thing is, often they have long and/or pointless tutorials, over explanations of the most minute thing, or telling the most basic of things in a ridiculous childish fashion

But I don't mean this. I mean stuff like...

1) A character stating their name to their own minions.
2) A "mysterious female" held prisoner who has some insane power.
3) Characters who only appear to deliver exposition and then fade out of the story entirely.
4) Dialogue scenes between characters that don't explore the characters, but merely exchange information both characters should, and clearly do, already share common knowledge about.

1. is bad writing if it were a book but with a game that is fine for emphasis
2. not bad writing?
3. again bad writing if it were a book but filler characters for exposition isn't neccesarily bad writing by default in a game depends on how its handled
4. that's more so for the player, but this hasn't been a big issue in Arise but yeah that's annoying.

[Sergeyt4444_rus]

I have defeated the 4th lord and for now story is disappointing. The part where we meet the 4th lord, alfen tries to save her and law takes hits for her is especially stupid.
Easily the worst tales game i have played in terms of story so far. Everything else is great tho, good game overall imo.

[Diabolical Taco]

It must suck to not be able to enjoy JRPG's for what they are. Srsly, I pity this crowd bashing Tales and Trails. You ever stop to think just maybe this genre isn't for you? Go play CoD or Skyrim or whatever. Not every game nor genre will appease every gamer. I personally can't deal with GTA b/c I find it insanely boring, but I don't go trolling those forums to spread it. I'm going to go back to playing stuff b/c quite frankly, it's more interesting than scanning threads to look at idiots try and critique games they have a predisposition to not liking.

[ArtyomMMM]

System Senpai の投稿を引用：

artyomr0bot の投稿を引用：

I understood your opinion, but I did not understand why you created the thread. As far as I understand, you just want to disagree with you and take offense at you. Or are you just uncomfortable that someone can enjoy what you think is bad?

Neither! There doesn't have to be some sort of motive or stance to take. I just wanted to share that the Writing was God Awful. My first post stated as much, "Buyer Beware" -- so the target audience is anyone who has not purchased the game yet and may wonder if the story is any good.

Otherwise, posting in the thread itself is more about sharing thoughts. Again, it's not as though my identity is dependent on people knowing my opinions. Nope. The story is god awful and I just like to talk about that subject! (I'm a writer, so it's what we kinda do.)

Understood. It was interesting to know the opinion from the point of view of the writer. Although I was not surprised, because even from the point of view of an ordinary player, I see flaws.

When I played Tales of Graces f in a country house, I had no internet access. I just got interested in the game and started playing it. I was sucked in. As the game progressed, I felt that the narrative was awkward, but that did not stop me from getting a lot of enjoinment from completing the story, exploring the world, completing side quests, completing an additional dungeon, defeating strong enemies. And I still consider the ending of the additional epilogue to be the best happy ending in the series.
It seems to me that Graces f is poorly written, but it left a lot of positive impressions and prompted me to familiarize myself with other games in the series.

I think the title "Tales of ..." indicates that these stories should be treated as something like fairy tales, or some kind of epics. And the narrative of the games in the series is approximately reminiscent of such epics.

[MatthewHager312]

Ok. You know how in the first 4-6 hours, you topple the first lord? In trails of cold steel, that would have been an entire 100+ hour game. The campfire scene would have lasted several hours by itself and the two characters, Iron mask and shionne would have their personalities split between 6 different characters. Iron mask alone has more character than the main cast of Cold Steel just for the sole reason of being able to juggle different feelings at any given time. Same with Shionne. She alone has 4 different problems that would make up four different main characters in Cold Steel. :/

[Xen0christ]

It's not the best but it's leagues less cliche and less ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as the previous Tales games.

[vXViper]

System Senpai の投稿を引用：

Buyer beware on this one people; this is some deep deep elementary school levels of writing, with exposition characters left and right and people constantly spouting information they should already know; or characters around them should already know. What's worse? You're pelted with this crap for a LONG time before the game even lets you play.

The first portions of this "Game" are too damn busy trying to convince you there isn't a super-cliche story ahead of you, but only achieves the opposite! I can only endure so much at a time before I have to keep shutting off the game. Ugh...

some of us and by that I mean like 90% of thoes that enjoy JRPG's like this the way it is =D

[Varitus]

I bought this game after seeing that it's about rebelion and fighting for freedom, but my god op is right... and it's not the biggest offense of the game. The biggest is who is a protagonist... my god whyyyyyyy... he's so bland, boring and goody two shoes same as eevry boring ass anime protagonist... why can't we ditch him and give that lady some fire rifle or just let he use her touch thing in combat and just move with her as protagonist. At least so far (second lord defeated) she asks the most logical questions, basically points out that protag is a complete incompitent idiot and he's literally only good for carrying that freaking sword... berseria at least picked the right protag, but this... such a disappointment for me. Hopefully something else better will come, but if third lord will be same idiotic stuff from protag it'll be switching to easy mode and rushing through the rest...