Tales of Arise

Tales of Arise

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Keytee Tamira Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:46am
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Skits are not hand drawn? :(
I wanted to see 2D Shion more often...
3D Shion doesn't have lipstick, while 2D one does, and i want to see more lipstick.
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Digihuman Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:48am 
No, but on the upside it does mean that now your cosmetics are seen in the skits.

Which is good because for some reason they make it so that Alphen's hair changes back to his iron mask / half-mask for 90% of the cutscenes.
Vesques23 Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:49am 
Well that saves time and money so its all good
Keytee Tamira Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Vesques23:
Well that saves time and money so its all good
But it doesn't look better than 2D.

Plus 2D allows for more fun and silly expressions, like Magilou's expressions in Berseria.
I fear that Arise won't be as humorous as previous ones...
Keytee Tamira Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Digihuman:
No, but on the upside it does mean that now your cosmetics are seen in the skits.

Which is good because for some reason they make it so that Alphen's hair changes back to his iron mask / half-mask for 90% of the cutscenes.
Still....

2D just looks more alive.
I wanted to see more of characters looking like they do in openigs.

3D Expressions are bland.
2D ones allow for more fun.
kiteless 凧無し Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:53am 
3d anime is a horrible crime against humanity
Digihuman Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Keytee Tamira:
Originally posted by Digihuman:
No, but on the upside it does mean that now your cosmetics are seen in the skits.

Which is good because for some reason they make it so that Alphen's hair changes back to his iron mask / half-mask for 90% of the cutscenes.
Still....

2D just looks more alive.
I wanted to see more of characters looking like they do in openigs.

3D Expressions are bland.
2D ones allow for more fun.

Oh I completely agree on both fronts. I wish there was a middle ground where we can enjoy our cosmetics AND get good expressions.

Though one other tradeoff is while we don't get good expressiveness, we do get more dynamic posing.
MBriggs27 Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Keytee Tamira:
Originally posted by Digihuman:
No, but on the upside it does mean that now your cosmetics are seen in the skits.

Which is good because for some reason they make it so that Alphen's hair changes back to his iron mask / half-mask for 90% of the cutscenes.
Still....

2D just looks more alive.
I wanted to see more of characters looking like they do in openigs.

3D Expressions are bland.
2D ones allow for more fun.
Well it's only bland because of the limited facial animations. They would seem alot more alive fs the devs fully committed to the 3d skits and gave them the same treatment as they did in cutscenes.
Last edited by MBriggs27; Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:59am
Ogami Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:
3d anime is a horrible crime against humanity
See also the crappy opening movie which is far inferior to previous Tales game intros.
Using 3D anime models for the movie was a terrible idea and it sticks out like a sore thumb.
AlliedKhajiit Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:10am 
yeah I really miss the 2d skits, I don't really care that my outfits wouldn't always match.
Digihuman Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Ogami:
Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:
3d anime is a horrible crime against humanity
See also the crappy opening movie which is far inferior to previous Tales game intros.
Using 3D anime models for the movie was a terrible idea and it sticks out like a sore thumb.

There's a cutscene in the fourth area that was initially all 2D art, and then the crowd in it changes to 3D as the crowd ramps up. It really ruined the scene.
Arsene Lupin Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by Digihuman:
I wish there was a middle ground where we can enjoy our cosmetics AND get good expressions.

Such a middle ground does exist, Namco-Bandai just... didn't put in the effort this time 'round. The Trails of Cold Steel games use 3D models that are much more expressive, and I'd argue that the 3D models' expression in Zwei (II): The Ilvard Insurrection are just as expressive as 2D portraits would be--owing largely, I think, to the chibi style.
Keytee Tamira Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Arsene Lupin:
Originally posted by Digihuman:
I wish there was a middle ground where we can enjoy our cosmetics AND get good expressions.

Such a middle ground does exist, Namco-Bandai just... didn't put in the effort this time 'round. The Trails of Cold Steel games use 3D models that are much more expressive, and I'd argue that the 3D models' expression in Zwei (II): The Ilvard Insurrection are just as expressive as 2D portraits would be--owing largely, I think, to the chibi style.

Sadly it won't work in Arise, as it tries to be "OH LOOK HOW SERIOUS I AM! Look how dark and cruel my plot is! I'm serious from the very beginning! Look, aliens conquered the planet! Look humans are slaves! I'm so serious, i'm not a kid's game! OHHH IM SO SERIOUS".
As in, i would've enjoy Arise as a serious game if i would be 10 years younger...
Except to me it looks now cringe. This kind of Anime plot just doesn't work well without some self-awareness and humor.
ArtyomMMM Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:33am 
I disagree that they were too lazy. It's just that the expressions are not overly exaggerated as is typical of anime.
Metharius Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by artyomr0bot:
I disagree that they were too lazy. It's just that the expressions are not overly exaggerated as is typical of anime.

i have not played enouth yet.... but tales of xillia2's skit made me care and like the fat cat due to how well and expressive the drawing were.

Not sure i'll get the same thign in regards to the howl ..

Heaven09 Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:07pm 
Jesus I can't with other new comments are people literally complaining about good game . shd up and just play you get used to it . I suppose if your not that touchy in some draw 2d skits that were boring pictures moving around on screen .
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Date Posted: Sep 11, 2021 @ 10:46am
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