Stupid AI makes the game unplayable on hard

[Titan]

Title. The AI for your party members is so ABSURDLY stupid no matter what you set their strategy to. This makes boss fights pretty much unbeatable on hard because they will NEVER dodge anything and just constantly keep killing themselves.

[Ogami]

Welcome to Tales, enjoy your stay.
The AI is always dumb as a rock in these games, on Hard you have to micromanage everyone yourself half the time which makes battles take forever.
Just play on Normal so you dont get a headache.
There are no difficutly related achievements anyway.

[Tracido]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Welcome to Tales, enjoy your stay.
The AI is always dumb as a rock in these games, on Hard you have to micromanage everyone yourself half the time which makes battles take forever.
Just play on Normal so you dont get a headache.
There are no difficutly related achievements anyway.

Many just like the difficulty for the challenge, never cared about achievements and having the AI be garbage does not a hard mode make. Shame, though I'm playing without even claiming a single DLC right now and I am wrecking everything. I was looking at the hard setting with serious thoughts..

[Kuruk]

yeah thats what i found out very quickly when playing the demo on ps5. They will survive for quite awhile but they will absolutely drain your CP until its empty and get wiped out unless you manage them the whole time.

[M3chaMike]

Originally posted by Tracido:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Welcome to Tales, enjoy your stay.
The AI is always dumb as a rock in these games, on Hard you have to micromanage everyone yourself half the time which makes battles take forever.
Just play on Normal so you dont get a headache.
There are no difficutly related achievements anyway.

Many just like the difficulty for the challenge, never cared about achievements and having the AI be garbage does not a hard mode make. Shame, though I'm playing without even claiming a single DLC right now and I am wrecking everything. I was looking at the hard setting with serious thoughts..

I'm not too far in quite yet but I bumped it up to hard and I haven't had any problems with it, so I'd say take the OP's complaints with a grain of salt. Though your AI teammates aren't brilliant, I've been able to aggro most enemies to focus on me, and keep my teammates safe.

That said, I've yet to face a boss quite yet, so maybe bosses specifically are a problem. In which case, a bit of character switching might have to be used to alleviate if not negate the problem.

[ArtyomMMM]

Yeah, you got to use the pause menu and switch characters more actively. This has always been the case, but that is why it's a high difficulty.

[Fyk0]

Wasn't the AI terrible in Berseria as well and then they patched it later and it became somewhat competent? I haven't started Arise yet so I don't have any opinion though.

[Redsun]

normal is good enough. Boss fights are pretty challenging. Cant imagine fighting them on hard.

[Hawke]

It's not even that difficult; if your party members go down, just finish the fight yourself. You don't even need the party, lol. And if you're that worried about it, boost attack them out of danger.

[Sel Und Irae]

Normal -> NG+ -> hArD

[Toyosatomimi no Miko]

Yeah, it usually is. You're supposed to work around it by using multiplayer. Or rather, hard mode is usually designed to make multiplayer less of a faceroll.

Except now there's no multiplayer, and I guess they didn't put any of the spare budget from that decision into better AI, if your story is anything to go by.

[Solstice]

Originally posted by Titan:

Title. The AI for your party members is so ABSURDLY stupid no matter what you set their strategy to. This makes boss fights pretty much unbeatable on hard because they will NEVER dodge anything and just constantly keep killing themselves.

I guess you are new to the Tales series. Welcome to Tales of F the AI

If you played the previous titles, you wouldn't be surprised at all.

I think out of so many of the tales titles, only Heart R and Xillia AI was decent.

[vXViper]

another player that oviously never played a tales game before and thinks its difficulty settings are like other games =D AND just incase you are a that person . Welcome to tales You set the difficulty on what ever you doing in the game. Like farming SP etc you go for higher harder difficulty and you just playing thru a bad part that takes forever because monsters have way way to much hp you lower the difficulty abit. The fighting aint hard on any mode really, but the monsters gain in ordinary fasion of a tales game huge HP boost and a little dmg boost for each difficulty you raise thats it. There is no real change in AI behavior really on them. So in turn lets say a monster takes 50 sec to beat on normal , and you do that fight easy, most likly you will do the same fight on hard but it will take you 2 and half min to finnish it. Thats not what I wana call raising the bar how hard a game is. thats just boring.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Solstice-HNNNNGGG!:

Originally posted by Titan:

Title. The AI for your party members is so ABSURDLY stupid no matter what you set their strategy to. This makes boss fights pretty much unbeatable on hard because they will NEVER dodge anything and just constantly keep killing themselves.

I guess you are new to the Tales series. Welcome to Tales of F the AI

If you played the previous titles, you wouldn't be surprised at all.

I think out of so many of the tales titles, only Heart R and Xillia AI was decent.

I've played most of the previous titles.

The AI has never been this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid before.

EDIT: to put my point more clearly. AI has previously been stupid yes, the AI in Arise however is so utterly braindead that it almost seems designed to actively be working against you at all times. You cannot rely on it to do even the most basic things at any time. This AI is next level stupid.

[awanderingswordsman]

If you set them to "do nothing" they will dodge 99.99% of attacks so worst case set your healers to that and then manually swap to them to heal. Obviously not a great solution as the party should be actively helping you but it's something to keep in mind. Also keep in mind boost attacks straight up teleport your AI so if you keep an eye on them you can warp them out of harms way.

[Titan]

Originally posted by awanderingswordsman:

If you set them to "do nothing" they will dodge 99.99% of attacks so worst case set your healers to that and then manually swap to them to heal. Obviously not a great solution as the party should be actively helping you but it's something to keep in mind. Also keep in mind boost attacks straight up teleport your AI so if you keep an eye on them you can warp them out of harms way.

I'll try that. Right now I have Shionne's strategy set to only heal me when I'm low, and at all other times stay away from the enemy.

And with that strategy, what she actually does is spam basic R1 attacks right in their face, never dodging, rarely healing and always getting herself hit. I pretty much am required to switch back to her every 3 seconds just to stop her ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killing herself.