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Only possible after fighting the guards. So your next chance is in the next Lord's base.
That's my bad, I confused fragment with the other astral. You're still good though since you can just farm it from Safar Sea Cave central area over and over again and that never goes away all game. Just go to Safar Sea Cave central area and swim to lower right side of the water and bam you're good to go, just a lot of back and forth is all.
Here, I took a screen to show you where, it's an easy straight run from the fast travel point in Frozen Valley in front of the entrance.
The Astral Crystal Fragment can be found at Safar Sea Cave (left), you’ll find it to the southeast of the large lake. (right)
I found a site on the internet that said it could be found in a cave, I'm glad I got it, because I sold all mine and needed to make Rinwell's gun that depends on each other to be crafted. but thanks for the help!
I managed to collect only one in the cave, I need two. do you know if the items respawn?