Creepzilla are BS

[Toyosatomimi no Miko]

Why is this one lizard enemy so damn strong.

Its attacks are easy enough to avoid for a player. But just like boss enrages, AI just seem incapable of dodging this enemy's attacks and seem to just stand there and take it. Only AI Kisara seems to be able to deal with them somewhat with her blocks.

Why does this one enemy f*ck over the AI so bad? The Dragons found a bit later are much easier for the AI to dodge and deal with despite the more unpredictable moves, yet they can't deal with these stupid giant chameleons.

[Somulo]

you facing all gigantic enemies on hard and if you slighly underleveled you will say they strong

but after 5 or 6 levels or if you equally being as them

and got new items

its will be piece a cake for you mate believe me

if you play on hard difficulty - you think - i try to challenge this big enemy and it will benefit me

but its uselles anyway for some reason you only one item from creepzilla to forge some weapons further

so if you can avoid them and farm little ones just do so

hard diff is anyway overrated i finish game on hard

and can tell what its just better for us to buy double exp from grade shop and play it again with fair rules

[Toyosatomimi no Miko]

Originally posted by Somulo:

you facing all gigantic enemies on hard and if you slighly underleveled you will say they strong

but after 5 or 6 levels or if you equally being as them

and got new items

its will be piece a cake for you mate believe me

i like you if you play on hard difficulty - you think - i try to challenge this big enemy and it will benefit me

but its uselles anyway for some reason you only one item from creepzilla to forge some weapons further

so if you can avoid them and farm little ones just do so

hard diff is anyway overrated i finish game on hard

and can tell what its just better for us to buy double exp from grade shop and play it again with fair rules

Creepzilla aren't giant enemies, they're just beefy mobs you fight in a few encounters. Two of them are on Wind Lady's ship. The same ship the beefy dragon mob encounter is on.

Beat the dragon normal enemy without a single AI death and not needing to heal in spite of it having similar HP and offense damage to creepzillas, yet creepzillas screw over the AI and the AI seem unable to dodge their attacks.

I'm also playing on Normal Mode. I don't know wtf you're going on about with hard mode and 2x xp ♥♥♥♥. That's irrelevant to me and I didn't mention hard mode or xp in my OP.

[Treskittle]

Honestly, the AI is unreliable in general. The fact that you cannot tweak individual AI yet this was touted as having a much more teamwork oriented style is laughable. Just give us multiplayer again, please???

[Zombina]

Originally posted by Treskittle:

Honestly, the AI is unreliable in general. The fact that you cannot tweak individual AI yet this was touted as having a much more teamwork oriented style is laughable. Just give us multiplayer again, please???

Well so far a lot of people finished the game and moved on another game so CO-OP , mmh, we will have to wait to see what they think abouut it .

[Somulo]

Originally posted by Toyosatomimi no Miko:

Originally posted by Somulo:

you facing all gigantic enemies on hard and if you slighly underleveled you will say they strong

but after 5 or 6 levels or if you equally being as them

and got new items

its will be piece a cake for you mate believe me

i like you if you play on hard difficulty - you think - i try to challenge this big enemy and it will benefit me

but its uselles anyway for some reason you only one item from creepzilla to forge some weapons further

so if you can avoid them and farm little ones just do so

hard diff is anyway overrated i finish game on hard

and can tell what its just better for us to buy double exp from grade shop and play it again with fair rules

Creepzilla aren't giant enemies, they're just beefy mobs you fight in a few encounters. Two of them are on Wind Lady's ship. The same ship the beefy dragon mob encounter is on.

Beat the dragon normal enemy without a single AI death and not needing to heal in spite of it having similar HP and offense damage to creepzillas, yet creepzillas screw over the AI and the AI seem unable to dodge their attacks.

I'm also playing on Normal Mode. I don't know wtf you're going on about with hard mode and 2x xp ♥♥♥♥. That's irrelevant to me and I didn't mention hard mode or xp in my OP.

this enemy is anyway simple

start of the fight he got tongue attack

try hard to run from you then you damage him anyway then use invis

the only people who are suffer its melee fighters

disable melee attacks use only spells and if you already got dohalim use him as the caster as well

best setup its 3 casters and one melee fighter semi tank, but anyway

secondly then he got like 50 % of he's hp he got scream and also poison around him, aslo i think got poison attack or aoe attack for melee fighters anyway

so thats that

most bad its this running atack because people just die so or you control them and try to dodge or they die if they low level, but for this you got protect ring and abilities to survive on 1 hp

as i said before

couple of levels up and this enemy will be easy for you

[tap and die]

I had more trouble with creepzillas and twins than some bosses. The dragons and mantis by comparison are super easy due to their slower and more telegraphic attacks.

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Originally posted by Somulo:

Originally posted by Toyosatomimi no Miko:

Creepzilla aren't giant enemies, they're just beefy mobs you fight in a few encounters. Two of them are on Wind Lady's ship. The same ship the beefy dragon mob encounter is on.

Beat the dragon normal enemy without a single AI death and not needing to heal in spite of it having similar HP and offense damage to creepzillas, yet creepzillas screw over the AI and the AI seem unable to dodge their attacks.

I'm also playing on Normal Mode. I don't know wtf you're going on about with hard mode and 2x xp ♥♥♥♥. That's irrelevant to me and I didn't mention hard mode or xp in my OP.

this enemy is anyway simple

start of the fight he got tongue attack

try hard to run from you then you damage him anyway then use invis

the only people who are suffer its melee fighters

disable melee attacks use only spells and if you already got dohalim use him as the caster as well

best setup its 3 casters and one melee fighter semi tank, but anyway

secondly then he got like 50 % of he's hp he got scream and also poison around him, aslo i think got poison attack or aoe attack for melee fighters anyway

so thats that

most bad its this running atack because people just die so or you control them and try to dodge or they die if they low level, but for this you got protect ring and abilities to survive on 1 hp

as i said before

couple of levels up and this enemy will be easy for you

Do you understand that the OP was talking about the terrible AI not the actual player skill?

Where do you get 3 casters when Dophalim joins after you beat the lizard?

[Somulo]

Originally posted by ControllerPassAway:

Originally posted by Somulo:

this enemy is anyway simple

start of the fight he got tongue attack

try hard to run from you then you damage him anyway then use invis

the only people who are suffer its melee fighters

disable melee attacks use only spells and if you already got dohalim use him as the caster as well

best setup its 3 casters and one melee fighter semi tank, but anyway

secondly then he got like 50 % of he's hp he got scream and also poison around him, aslo i think got poison attack or aoe attack for melee fighters anyway

so thats that

most bad its this running atack because people just die so or you control them and try to dodge or they die if they low level, but for this you got protect ring and abilities to survive on 1 hp

as i said before

couple of levels up and this enemy will be easy for you

Do you understand that the OP was talking about the terrible AI not the actual player skill?

Where do you get 3 casters when Dophalim joins after you beat the lizard?

terrible ai

man

well what can i say people

how do you suffer that hard, how you buy a game and not drop it i have no idea

but what op meant i have no idea also

because i see the same 4 - 5 people who try hard to be extremely aggresive for no reason

because they dont like this game and keep this uselles talk

mechanic of the creepzilla is very understandable

afterwards

ai is fine then you got the same level as you or higher

but on hard they die practically everytime in my experience thats how i kill 3-4 bosses solo

in ys games you also got "companions" they uselles and keep dying because they cant handle an 4k crit in the face

same with tales of games

capish

[AH-1 Cobra]

Covfefe Pepe Zeugel memeing u that hard!?

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Originally posted by Somulo:

Originally posted by ControllerPassAway:

Do you understand that the OP was talking about the terrible AI not the actual player skill?

Where do you get 3 casters when Dophalim joins after you beat the lizard?

terrible ai

man

well what can i say people

how do you suffer that hard, how you buy a game and not drop it i have no idea

but what op meant i have no idea also

because i see the same 4 - 5 people who try hard to be extremely aggresive for no reason

because they dont like this game and keep this uselles talk

mechanic of the creepzilla is very understandable

afterwards

ai is fine then you got the same level as you or higher

but on hard they die practically everytime in my experience thats how i kill 3-4 bosses solo

in ys games you also got "companions" they uselles and keep dying because they cant handle an 4k crit in the face

same with tales of games

capish

YS companions don't die in VIII-IX. They remain at 1HP. Are you sure you've played YS to begin with?

[Somulo]

Originally posted by ControllerPassAway:

Originally posted by Somulo:

terrible ai

man

well what can i say people

how do you suffer that hard, how you buy a game and not drop it i have no idea

but what op meant i have no idea also

because i see the same 4 - 5 people who try hard to be extremely aggresive for no reason

because they dont like this game and keep this uselles talk

mechanic of the creepzilla is very understandable

afterwards

ai is fine then you got the same level as you or higher

but on hard they die practically everytime in my experience thats how i kill 3-4 bosses solo

in ys games you also got "companions" they uselles and keep dying because they cant handle an 4k crit in the face

same with tales of games

capish

YS companions don't die in VIII-IX. They remain at 1HP. Are you sure you've played YS to begin with?

1 hp and they cant strike the enemy man even at full hp they got bad dps anyway

..and yeah i know who is the dark fact is

felghana / napishtim

and yeah aslo i know what xanadu and xanadu next is

try me

[Doom_Cookies]

Originally posted by ControllerPassAway:

Where do you get 3 casters when Dophalim joins after you beat the lizard?

A lower HP version of the boss becomes a normal enemy throughout the rest of the game.

[Toyosatomimi no Miko]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Covfefe Pepe Zeugel memeing u that hard!?

Nah, the boss wasn't an issue, oddly enough. It's the "normal enemy" version found in the wind territory and on wind lady's ship that's giving me grief.

And I can fight it just fine, my issue is that the AI can't. And I can either spend a good 7-10min soloing the damn thing or burn through all my cp on one enemy because the AI can't dodge this one enemy's attacks, again, seemingly ignoring them completely, akin to how the AI treats boss enrages/mystic artes.

Wish I knew why this one enemy seems to be the only one with this issue, and I can't exactly get around it through manual positioning and rapid char swapping due to the nature of its attacks. With the wide arcs and snipe shots while loving to stay on the arena's edge. And strategy tab does ♥♥♥♥ all due to aforementioned attacks (everything except for the AOE around itself move has a reach greater than the "avoid foes" distance you can make people stay at via strategy tab).

Having co-op would be a good fix, lol... But that's a pipe dream at this point.

[GrayHound]

Originally posted by Toyosatomimi no Miko:

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Covfefe Pepe Zeugel memeing u that hard!?

Nah, the boss wasn't an issue, oddly enough. It's the "normal enemy" version found in the wind territory and on wind lady's ship that's giving me grief.

And I can fight it just fine, my issue is that the AI can't. And I can either spend a good 7-10min soloing the damn thing or burn through all my cp on one enemy because the AI can't dodge this one enemy's attacks, again, seemingly ignoring them completely, akin to how the AI treats boss enrages/mystic artes.

Wish I knew why this one enemy seems to be the only one with this issue, and I can't exactly get around it through manual positioning and rapid char swapping due to the nature of its attacks. With the wide arcs and snipe shots while loving to stay on the arena's edge. And strategy tab does ♥♥♥♥ all due to aforementioned attacks (everything except for the AOE around itself move has a reach greater than the "avoid foes" distance you can make people stay at via strategy tab).

Having co-op would be a good fix, lol... But that's a pipe dream at this point.

Yeah, it's a BS enemy given the AI. Both the tongue and the charge have a windup so the AI should be able to dodge it 100% of the time.

I guess the devs wanted to give us some challenge by making the AI stupid...

[Black Lamb, Rock Enjoyer]

I save every character's (except Alphen) Boost Strikes for iframing their attacks and it usually works out except for it's Overlimit attacks....

If only Kisara's downing conditions were actually reasonable and you didnt have to wait until the monster does that OHK charging attack first lol. And if we actually had control over Overlimits again. Cus Mystic Artes interrupt their OL state easily.