Alternative to the -80% penalty for custom modes: Cap the Reward Multiplier to 5x.

[The n00b A]

I would rather the devs capped the reward multiplier (like Insym mentioned) to 5x, nerfed the photo values but readded them to the reward multiplier and removed the bone from said multiplier. That way you're encouraged to interact with/face the ghost (with the photos) and even if you just layed salt all over the place and took pictures of all cursed items, you'd only earn around 50$ (10 x 1$ photos x 5x multiplier cap)

Since most of the cheese pre custom were the photos and after the custom mode was added was the bone collection, this would solve both.

As for how to implement the cap, just stick it to the Prep Timer like the other caps:

5 min = 1.0x cap
4 min = 1.5x cap
3 min = 2.0x cap
2 min = 2.5x cap
1 min = 3.0x cap
30 sc = 3.5x cap
0 min = 5.0x cap

Also i liked that they boosted the main objective value but nerfing the secondaries is a bit much too. Some of them are hard as they are already. (like reaching below 25% sanity). Being hard and with little reward = not worth it; and that goes both for the 80% penalty and the nerf to the secondaries.

Literally playing in 24x difficulty with the 80% penalty already makes you earn 4.8x, why dont just capt it to 5x already and remove the penalty?

I also get that custom is supposed to be a fun challenging mode, but it's not a sandbox mode; if you don't have the money, you can't buy the equipment. Checking the "dont lose itens in death" doesn't grants you access to stuff.

And i get that the money and experience are there to give a sense of progression and challenge the player in this balance of cost-risk/reward, but some itens are really expensive for what they are. 5$ for a lighter is a bit extreme for example. At least these items that are required to complete secondary objectives (candles, smudge sticks, salt & lighters) should be cheaper, specially now with the secondary rewards nerf.

My personal experience with custom modes involved a bit of cheese just to get the equipment, i admit (20x bone speedrun), but most of the time i played around to make a rewarding but scary experience, like: 1.25x player speed, 1.5x ghost speed, 0 grace period, full hiding places, 5 cursed itens, no sanity monitor, prep time of 3 min, 6 seconds sprint cooldown... all that made the experience very engaging, fast paced and dangerous of insta-kill for hunts but had a reward of 2x, which is not exploitive. (i died so many times for demon)

Either way, i wont be playing this for a while since they new graphics, although better, makes my game stutter like crazy. But i do hope you take my suggestion to heart (and patch this stutter)

[thrythlind]

Note, I still disagree that "not losing gear" should set you to x0 reward.

I agree with a Capped reward to x1 or x2.

But this is by far the single thing that will most turn this from game to chore.

[thrythlind]

ha, meant to respond to my own thread, didn't realize this was a similarly titled one.

[The n00b A]

Originally posted by thrythlind:

ha, meant to respond to my own thread, didn't realize this was a similarly titled one.

Lol, there's gonna be a lot of threads like this for now.

[The n00b A]

I'd like to add some more suggestions from other discussions in other topics and clarifications:

- If you go ahead and remove the bone from the reward multiplier i suggest the bone value to change depending on the map size (10$, 15$ and 30$ for small, medium and big maps respectivaly)

- If you do re-add the photos to the multiplier, i suggest the values of:
1$ for cursed possessions and ghost interactions (blow candle, throw item,
.......open door, flickering lights)
2$ for paranormal evidences (fingerprints, footprints, book writing, DOTs projection)
3$ for ghost events and rare paranormal evidences, (burnt crucifix, dirty water,
.......that smoke orb that chases you, red lights)
4$ for ghost pic in a ghost event
5$ for ghost pic in a hunt

- Remove the bonus from the uptade for custom modes, if you want to make people focus in the oficial modes (while doing my main suggestions in the OP). Even if you just cap the reward multiplier to 5x and remove the bonus from custom mode, it would stop the bone exploit while still giving a somewhat rewarding experience (as long as you rebuff the secondary objectives values)

- Checking the "don't lose itens on death" should cap the reward multiplier to 0.4x, so people can use it as a training mode with some reward still

On that note, the tutorial needs a revamp where the ghost is a special ghost that answers to all evidence, so new players know if they are doing stuff right, and that hunts the player but teleports him to the truck instead of killing him. Also having all cursed possesions (and their explanations on that tv) in the map.