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Syncourt Aug 6, 2022 @ 7:58am
Missing light switch interaction & fingerprint
I just had a Demon switch off the downstairs hallway light on Edgefield, I got a photo of the switch less than 5 seconds of it being turned off but it did not register a fingerprint or even an interaction in the photo journal.

Edit 1: It did however leave a fingerprint on the bathroom switch. So it was somewhat working.

Edit 2: It happened again. This time on the kitchen light.
Last edited by Syncourt; Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:05am
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Kelrycor Aug 6, 2022 @ 8:47am 
Did you see the fingerprints under the UV light first? Did you confirmed the interaction with an EMF meter?

Don't say you didn't checked them but just wild guessed a fingerprint or interaction. Never do that if you aren't really an experienced player. Because the ghost has to physically touch the switch to leave a fingerprint or the interaction EMF signal for 5 seconds. But ghost events can also alter the state of a light switch and will leave no fingerprint and no EMF signal at the light switch position, because the ghost used a power rather than touching it. In a result you won't get both of them.

With enough experience you can tell those kind of "light switching" events apart from real physical touching without the need of extra checking. Else, better use UV light or EMF signal to confirm them first, then you will get your fingerprint and/or interaction picture (whatever applies first).

To add to this: this is also true for doors, but not for windows. This is because there are ghost events or special abilites that can move doors "from afar" by power rather than physically by the ghost. Windows on the contrary do not have any ghost ability or events that can manipulate them. Whenever you hear a window knocking and you are sure which window it was, you can be sure it was physically touched by the ghost always.
Last edited by Kelrycor; Aug 6, 2022 @ 9:00am
Syncourt Aug 6, 2022 @ 10:47am 
I didn't check with UV or EMF because it wasn't an event.
Each light mentioned simply went 'click'. Other than that it was dead silent.
Kelrycor Aug 6, 2022 @ 11:02am 
So you didn't checked.

There are events and occasions that don't leave any noise but a light switch will be shut off (not on though). The 'click' is not telling you it actually touched it. And your pictures seemed to proof it.
Syncourt Aug 6, 2022 @ 11:52pm 
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
So you didn't checked.

There are events and occasions that don't leave any noise but a light switch will be shut off (not on though). The 'click' is not telling you it actually touched it. And your pictures seemed to proof it.
What kind of event is that? I was right next to the lights that switched off. Why would there be an event exactly the same as an interaction?
Kelrycor Aug 7, 2022 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by Syncourt:
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
So you didn't checked.

There are events and occasions that don't leave any noise but a light switch will be shut off (not on though). The 'click' is not telling you it actually touched it. And your pictures seemed to proof it.
What kind of event is that? I was right next to the lights that switched off. Why would there be an event exactly the same as an interaction?

There are at least two events that come directly into my mind that can throw a light switch (off) without the need for the ghost to interact with it directly.

1. Ghost spook event "mist" form. You don't hear a mist and won't get a heartbeat sound (as it is no "real" ghost and it won't count as ghost picture, don't even try it). And the mist may have spawned in an adjacent room. But it can also easily despawn quickly like other manifestation if the target player leaves the spooked area (intended or not). The trails of such an event are still left behind (the EMF4 interaction signal at the spawn point, a shut off light switch, a slam shutted door - both the latter without an EMF signal by themselves).

2. The ghost overloaded the fuse box by shutting on a light switch/lamp somewhere else. In this case all light switches in the house will be switched off.

And if we go in details through all the ghosts ability and ghost events, I am pretty much sure there are even more of them.

Fact is, that without checking you always have a small gamble that the ghost didn't touched a door or light swtch physically, wasting a valuable picture in the process. You may call it a bug if you actually saw the green fingerprints or EMF signal but didn't got the picture, but without checking you acted just too quick. A good investigator really (double) checks things and not wildly guess them.
Last edited by Kelrycor; Aug 7, 2022 @ 2:46am
Syncourt Aug 7, 2022 @ 5:17am 
1. I highly doubt it was the mist event since I was hanging around in the main junction (the hallway) and didn't see the mist come out of any room nor would it have missed me if it did being so narrow. Plus the fact that it happened twice out of 3 light switch interactions, the mist event is much too rare for that and while not impossible, extremely unlikely. It is also only supposed to switch off a light in the room of the player triggering the event, which was not the case for the kitchen light.

2. It wasn't the fuse box. Only the 1 light out of about 6 went off. I had the hallway, piano room and a number of upstairs lights on.

Other. It was a demon which has no special abilities regarding power or interaction with light switches.
Last edited by Syncourt; Aug 7, 2022 @ 5:30am
Kelrycor Aug 7, 2022 @ 5:36am 
Just gave you two examples.

But if you keep going wild guessing interactions or fingerprints without properly checking, you deserve to get no picture for it.
Syncourt Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
But if you keep going wild guessing interactions or fingerprints without properly checking, you deserve to get no picture for it.
No, I asked what kind of events are 'just a light switch' the same as an interaction. Because that's all that happened. You gave no examples of that at all, just other random events like mist or the fuse box being turned off.

Any other room and just one occurrence I would have likely given you the mist event as a good chance of being what happened, but not in this particular position and situation where it could not have gone by unnoticed or without a collision.
Kelrycor Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:23am 
Then you didn't understood the examples I gave you. Both will switch off the light switch, but actually leave no EMF or fingerprint, and you will not hear nothing except than the light switch noise. And why do it happen? Because the ghost did not PHYSICALLY touched the light switch.

Only if the ghost really touched it, EMF signal and fingerprints (if it is its evidence or RNG rolled it for an Obake) will be there. Don't trust the ghosts, they love to fool you. And it seems that your Demon won 3:0.

I remember another thing that can occur that you actually got or see a fingerprint and you don't get a picture. If you already got a picture of that fingerprint. I mean, this is obvious, but there is a strange behavoir in "new" fingerprints that you should be aware about:
If a ghost made a fingerprint on a door with a visual "A" and you made a icture of it, and it touches the door a second time within the 1 minute timer of existence of the old fingerprint, leaving another fingerprint technically, it will only count as a "new" fingerprint for the photo reward when the visual "A" changed to visual "B". I don't know if this is a bug or intended. It is just a behaviour I noticed. But if it is still the old visual "A", don't make a picture, it does not count. Wait for either the fingerprint to disappear and get renewed (then another visual "A" will count) or check the visual change with a UV light. For light switched, there are less different visuals, so the chances to get the same visual is way higher than on doors or windows.

Just to mention, it comes down to use a UV light again to prevent not counting fingerprint pictures. Use one, they are their for it - or easy said: better safe than sorry.
Last edited by Kelrycor; Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:26am
Syncourt Aug 7, 2022 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
Only if the ghost really touched it, EMF signal and fingerprints (if it is its evidence or RNG rolled it for an Obake) will be there. Don't trust the ghosts, they love to fool you. And it seems that your Demon won 3:0.
I know about Obake and it being the only ghost with a chance to leave no prints behind. Have you ever won a game with that or do you just assume - like you are now - that there is an event that was missed?

I had already identified the demon. Fairly quick being in first room you walk into. I was just hanging around waiting to get a photo of the ghost as well as a few other interactions in the meantime.

If it was indeed a bug that it didn't register as an interaction then it wouldn't exactly come up with an EMF or fingerprint either. So missing those doesn't really mean anything in such a case. If I wasn't 100% certain that I didn't miss an event at the time of the switch going off, I wouldn't have bothered to report it.
Kelrycor Aug 7, 2022 @ 7:11am 
You speak to someone that was playing at level 1400. I played a lot of games. Hundreds of rounds, and I am pretty much know how the game works. Though I also can be sometimes mistaken, like anyone can.

But for your case, it is no real case. As you cannot tell for sure that there was a signal or a fingerprint, anyone, the devs included, can just assume that there were none. You just gambled, and you lost. Easy as it sounds.

The best advice I can just give you is, play properly and this most likely won't happen again.

You also can verify your game file integrity via Steam options of the game. Maybe some game files are broken because of a patch, if you are still believing you got bugged.
Last edited by Kelrycor; Aug 7, 2022 @ 7:12am
Syncourt Aug 7, 2022 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
You speak to someone that was playing at level 1400.
Uhh... good on you bro but as with every other game out there, level in a game is completely irrelevant and is no solid measure of ability. Maybe you are a lvl 1400 but also a slow learner or more limited in capability. Maybe I'm naturally more perceptive than you are? Who's to say any of that for certain?

Don't just assume that your level and playtime means that you can be dismissive.

You could've had thousands of light switches bug on you but never even knew because you keep straight up assuming they're event related whenever you don't get a EMF/UV reading.
Last edited by Syncourt; Aug 7, 2022 @ 7:39am
Kelrycor Aug 7, 2022 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by Syncourt:
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
You speak to someone that was playing at level 1400.
Uhh... good on you bro but as with every other game out there, level in a game is completely irrelevant and is no solid measure of ability. Maybe you are a lvl 1400 but also a slow learner or more limited in capability. Maybe I'm naturally more perceptive than you are? Who's to say any of that for certain?

Don't just assume that your level and playtime means that you can be dismissive.

You could've had thousands of light switches bug on you but never even knew because you keep straight up assuming they're event related whenever you don't get a EMF/UV reading.

Stop being a moron. YOU asked me about my experience. You got an information AND I said that I well know that I can be mistaken about things as well. How an understandig person you are, indeed.

But I am not the person who is just too stupid to get fingerprint / interaction pictures because he forgot or is too lazy to get an UV light and properly check on them. Think about this, and maybe we got another level of conversation.

But with this kind of attitude, I would really kick you out of my team. First wasting pictures and then accusing others to get things wrong. You are a lost cause, indeed. I just wanted you to understand what might have happened, but you don't want to know. You just came here to whine about "bug bug bug". That is all.

Have still fun playing the game. I am out.
Last edited by Kelrycor; Aug 7, 2022 @ 9:20am
Syncourt Aug 7, 2022 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Kelrycor:
Stop being a moron. YOU asked me about my experience.
Hey I did what now? At no point did I ask how high level you were.
I asked have you ever caught an Obake purely based on it's missing prints.
You straight up and very blatantly used your level to try and raise the weight of your argument. Don't even try to hide that.

Originally posted by Kelrycor:
I just wanted you to understand what might have happened, but you don't want to know. You just came here to whine about "bug bug bug". That is all.
And what happened exactly? You don't even know what might have happened. All you came up with was mist, fuse box or OTHER GHOST EVENTS - none of which occurred and are very obvious when they do if you know what they are. You just for some reason assume that since you weren't there to see that no event happened that the other person is clueless. Give me a break guy.

The only way it could have been the mist event in the first instance is if that were in itself buggy, as it did not spawn near and head towards me like it is supposed to. In a hallway, the only player in the house, there is no excuse for it to miss. Neither time the light went off did I spot the mist and therefor I made no effort to avoid it. No hiss. No chunky sanity loss.

And please... a fuse box going off? C'mon man. :steamfacepalm:
How stupid do you just assume people are?
That they wouldn't notice an entire house blacking out?

I don't really care what you think of the quick snap method. It saves tonnes of time and time = money. I do this when I play SP and sometimes I can't even be bothered taking the time to get photos at all since I have to lug everything around myself. Interactions don't exactly pay that well that you need to have a cry about missing one or two in the occasional game, but whatever... you do you.

Originally posted by Kelrycor:
then accusing others to get things wrong.
Uhh you mean like the very first thing you did posting in this discussion? :lunar2019wavingpig:
Syncourt Aug 8, 2022 @ 12:33am 
So a similar thing just happened again. Garage door, willow st. house. Mare.

This time I had EMF2 right after I heard and saw it interacted with, the picture however showed no interaction. I switched back to EMF and it was still reading as EMF2.
No objects were near the door to mislead the EMF reader.

Oddly enough, the door was then interacted with again almost 2 seconds after I switched back to the EMF, with the reading still remaining at EMF2.
Since I couldn't really rely on the EMF at that point, I took a quick snap.
The photo registered interaction properly this time.
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