Gold Apoc Change

[Uber Westy]

It feels like almost everyone has cheesed this with a Deo.

Personally, I feel you should ban Deo from the challenge. It makes it way too easy and takes the challenge away from the challenge.

Or I would like to see the ghost name you achieved it on added to the card header name.

Before everyone gets salty at me, I achieved it with a Goryo.

[Shurenai]

Wouldn't matter, Everyone would just pick the next easiest ghost to cheese, Which would be something like Thaye that is extremely obvious from it's hunting speed right at the start and would play out along the lines of: "Decide it's a thaye, let it hunt get a pic smudge and hide, If it's speed was thaye-like, mark thaye, else pick a random ghost and exit", Repeat 50 times till you get thaye or get lucky with a guess. If you don't think thaye is easy enough, Pick <other ghost> that you think is easy to tell from one hunt, same result. Check, pic, exit, repeat. Doesn't even matter if you die when the ghost isn't the one you want either so you can rush checks faster.

In short, People will just find a new way to cheese it. Cheesers gonna cheese, And even if it says on the card which ghost, no matter what ghost it says, there's always going to be that thought of "Did they just cheese it by restarting over and over till they got the right ghost?" mixed in.

[Ten4]

Obvious clown farming. Its a solo challenge people can play how they want to.

[Maya-Neko]

Do you want to brag about having this trophy on a job application or why do you care about there being less people (most of which you don't even know) having it?

And given that it was a Goryo you dealt with, i pretty much assume that you as well cheesed it through guessing, given that Goryo is amongst those ghosts that can practically not be identified through normal means (outside of just waiting like an hour in a hiding spot doing nothing, just to turn the guess into an educated guess)

[Arxkhero]

Hey folks.... dont feed the op troll?
its a simple challenge. took me... two tries as i forgot the ghost picture the first time.
first was an onryo, which made it fairly easy.
Second sadly was a rev, and i barely got away but still did the challenge. ultimately.... it isnt hard with map knowledge if you know the ghosts.
(unless of course the ghost bug where they have a different ghosts strength happens, which is getting worse for me and my group)

[Magic Man]

Originally posted by Uber Westy:

Before everyone gets salty at me, I achieved it with a Goryo.

Saying that doing it with a Deogen is cheesing it when you got it with one of the ghosts that is a complete guess is wild.

[Emurinus]

There's certainly quite a few ghosts you can beat Apoc with; hell, getting the ghost itself right isn't the tough part. I got mine against a Wraith, and thankfully it preferred to hunt away from me cause 0 grace insta-nukes aren't fun. If anything, the toughest part is getting the ghost photo (especially with the devs' ludicrous idea to hit your whole inventory with a switch cooldown upon taking a photo) and/or if you get stuck with really crappy objectives like ghost event or crucifix.

[💚⁧⁧ Peach]

Originally posted by Uber Westy:

It feels like almost everyone has cheesed this with a Deo.

Personally, I feel you should ban Deo from the challenge. It makes it way too easy and takes the challenge away from the challenge.

Or I would like to see the ghost name you achieved it on added to the card header name.

Before everyone gets salty at me, I achieved it with a Goryo.

I had a Raiju with this. It's very easy with Deo though.

[💚⁧⁧ Peach]

Originally posted by Arxkhero:

Hey folks.... dont feed the op troll?
its a simple challenge. took me... two tries as i forgot the ghost picture the first time.
first was an onryo, which made it fairly easy.
Second sadly was a rev, and i barely got away but still did the challenge. ultimately.... it isnt hard with map knowledge if you know the ghosts.
(unless of course the ghost bug where they have a different ghosts strength happens, which is getting worse for me and my group)

It's a simple challenge if you've played the game a lot with good rng.

[Arxkhero]

Definitely.
bad optional's... eh.
but yea, they really need to learn how to make something "harder" rather then "more annoying"

or like... maybe understand what horror is? this games only horror is jump scares.
the changes ive seen proposed or coming are just annoying, they add neither true difficulty nor horrowr

[halflife2]

I agree that the Deo is far too easy a way to get the challenge. You can so easily loop it in the chapel (or even just back away in a corridor) to get ghost photos. Not really a challenge at all.

I’ve previously suggested a Platinum Apocalypse trophy that would be awarded for completing the Gold multiple times (perhaps 3) with *different* ghosts. That would prevent easy cheesing with the Deo at least.

[atemschutzbaer]

Originally posted by Uber Westy:

It feels like almost everyone has cheesed this with a Deo.

Personally, I feel you should ban Deo from the challenge. It makes it way too easy and takes the challenge away from the challenge.

Or I would like to see the ghost name you achieved it on added to the card header name.

Before everyone gets salty at me, I achieved it with a Goryo.

Hello everyone! Apparently some people managed to identify the ghosts more easily than most of the other players. The challenge of the apocalypse task was still tough and not something that could be easily mastered with tricks. I therefore think it's great that players can work their way through the task depending on their own skills. If one type of ghost is easier to identify than others, why shouldn't you be able to use this? I don't see a problem with that. After all, you're not harming other people just because you were lucky enough to be able to identify the ghost. It's wrong and arrogant to deny people their achievements just because they chose the easier path for themselves. This form of gatekeeping simply doesn't belong in the game and is more of a questionable pseudo-elitist attitude than a truly professional behavior. But this is just my humble opinion! So if you've completed all three trophies of the Apocalypse Challenge, you've already achieved something big in this game. Perhaps the developers will have more difficult challenges in store for the elite of Phasmo players in the future.
I hope you all have a great day!

[Michael Daemon]

People and their ever present need to feel superior to someone else, this behavior is cancer. You aren't special because you guessed goryo right and you're not inferior because you got a deo.

[DAM_FLAMEZ]

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[Uber Westy]

Some people here are pathetic 😂 this genuinely wasn't a troll post or the need to feel superior. I'm not childish. This was supposed to be a mature discussion about the gold challenge but was met with immature comments. Maybe I forgot I was dealing with the Internet.

As for my Goryo win that took a lot of work, well over an hour infact on that run, and a year to finally achieve this to do this normally without restarting it a thousand times for a Deogen. One of my objectives was to get EMF which meant getting the EMF into the ghost room and then working out if it was a Banshee or Goryo because it wasn't changing rooms. So as for guessing this at an easy distance, no, that is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Uber Westy:

This was supposed to be a mature discussion about the gold challenge but was met with immature comments.

Do "mature" discussions normally make suggestions that involve making something more tedious for everyone because you also had it hard?