DO NOT RESET LEVELS

[jfanelli91]

I put in 1000 plus hours into building my level and i am not about to start over. i will quit playing and streaming this game completely if you strip me of my hard earned level. please credit us who are do with appropriate levels in the new system and dont just put me back at 0.

[alt]

I put in double your time and I.. don't care? Levels don't mean anything nor net you anything right now anyways. At the very least you will be awarded a series of badges according to the level you reached before the reset.

[Denzter06]

Originally posted by jfanelli91:

resetting levels is crap for people that earned it. period.

It's crap for sure, but the devs have complete free will to do so. This still is an Early Access game, and if this change impacts the game negatively, the devs can always undo it. Because we get badges that show our levels, they can just take those levels and undo their changes. I'm glad they try new things. I'm glad they experiment. Because right now, while the game is still Early Access, it can improve the game so much.

[WolfLink0370]

I think the bigger point to make is this - if there was a work around, then the devs would have easily taken that road instead over choosing to do the wipe. However, they sadly could find none and were likely left with no other choice on the matter.

At least they were kind enough to make us aware of this in advance, and to provide a consolation prize for our efforts thus far in playing the game and leveling up.

[Myth Alric]

They are going to give a special badge or something for you based on your old level.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

I think the bigger point to make is this - if there was a work around, then the devs would have easily taken that road instead over choosing to do the wipe. However, they sadly could find none and were likely left with no other choice on the matter.

At least they were kind enough to make us aware of this in advance, and to provide a consolation prize for our efforts thus far in playing the game and leveling up.

But there *is* a workaround. They even admitted it themselves by offering the badge. They can store our levels and return them after the wipe.

The real reason they're doing this is to erase all the thousands of levels cheated accounts and custom difficulty exploiters to force the game to have meaning to progression again. It's not even out of early access and people have millions of dollars saved. Never believe the convenient excuse, think for yourself and realize that if they can store our levels for a badge then they can recall them with givexp after the wipe too. They're actively choosing not to because it benefits them to wipe.

[The Roadtrain]

yes heaven forbid a company chooses to do something that benefits their product.

you will have the new equipment and money back in no time and back to complaining about adding ghosts and maps again.

been known for over a year that it all would be wiped at some point before official release.

[Xylo]

My levels are gone, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. whats up with this dev doing dumbassery like this?

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by Xylo:

My levels are gone, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. whats up with this dev doing dumbassery like this?

They have been planning to upgrade the progression system for over a year, and for just as long... players have known that a level wipe was going to be a part of it. It was even on their old road map, before they updated it last September... Now that it's almost here, people are up in arms about it... in spite of having that big of an advance warning.

If you're worried about having to grind back up though... don't - the progression rework is going to be bringing buffs to the mission rewards and a lot of other great features like equipment upgrades. It's going to suck for the short term, but be worth it in the long term... if that makes any sense.

Oh also yeah... this is Early Access... a game in development. It's not too uncommon to see this sort of thing happen.

[Delta Dagger]

I often wonder how larger publishers can get away with reselling the same garbage games repackaged year in and year out.

Turns out, I just need to slap together some assets and give it some artificial marker of progression and the average gamer will start freebasing it.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by MiG-21bis Fishbed-L:

I often wonder how larger publishers can get away with reselling the same garbage games repackaged year in and year out.

Turns out, I just need to slap together some assets and give it some artificial marker of progression and the average gamer will start freebasing it.

Like?

[Delta Dagger]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by MiG-21bis Fishbed-L:

I often wonder how larger publishers can get away with reselling the same garbage games repackaged year in and year out.

Turns out, I just need to slap together some assets and give it some artificial marker of progression and the average gamer will start freebasing it.

Like?

Literally the majority of FPSs made after 2007 up until recent.

Also EA's handling of its sports properties.

The point is that the level on our profiles in Phasmo is meaningless.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by MiG-21bis Fishbed-L:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Like?

Literally the majority of FPSs made after 2007 up until recent.

Also EA's handling of its sports properties.

The point is that the level on our profiles in Phasmo is meaningless.

Your level on your profile was always meaningless. At most it represented the amount of hours your played phasmo which was made obsoleet with custom difficulty. I can tell you I had 2500 more levels then you had pre costum difficulty considering you only played 1/6th of the time I played....

You didnt progress. You didnt unlock anything but other difficultes.

This also aint the only game that does wipes.

And FYI, Every single EA game thats yearly released has at least

- new stadiums
- New teams
- New gameplay elements
- New features
- new rosters
- New numbers
- Game engine updates.


Now you can like or not like that, but that is what is factual. Wether or not you think price is worth, is subjective, but I personally dont buy a EA game every year. I buy one every 2-3 years maybe.

So no, You're not talking about 'releases'.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by Shadow:

That's.. the plan. Similar to the prestige system in CoD. You might be level 0, with a prestige of 300 or whatever they choose. Levels still won't matter as much as everyone thinks they do. You can find a level 30 who knows more and dies a lot less than someone that is 10k.

As long as that means we don't all have to start at the very beginning and grind out all our items tediously, then I'm fine with it.

I don't care about levels at all. It was always a meaningless number. No value. No purpose. I just don't want to have to grind in a game like this because that would be insanely boring.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

Originally posted by Shadow:

That's.. the plan. Similar to the prestige system in CoD. You might be level 0, with a prestige of 300 or whatever they choose. Levels still won't matter as much as everyone thinks they do. You can find a level 30 who knows more and dies a lot less than someone that is 10k.

As long as that means we don't all have to start at the very beginning and grind out all our items tediously, then I'm fine with it.

I don't care about levels at all. It was always a meaningless number. No value. No purpose. I just don't want to have to grind in a game like this because that would be insanely boring.

We may very well be all starting back from square one... but I'm willing to take a hit now if it means the game will be better as a result.

Lot of people are focusing on just the wipe and not all the other good that will come from the rework. Mission reward buffs, a gear price re-balance, completely new gear AND upgrades for existing gear... that's just a few of the things I saw on their Trello.

[Dark Star]

Originally posted by jfanelli91:

I put in 1000 plus hours into building my level and i am not about to start over. i will quit playing and streaming this game completely if you strip me of my hard earned level. please credit us who are do with appropriate levels in the new system and dont just put me back at 0.

You know what's hilarious? You put 1000 hours into a virtual number that has no effect whatsoever and think you've actually earned something