What would happen if you stay in the closet the whole game?

[Theomax]

Will the ghost know where you are when they start to hunt?

[Shurenai]

The ghost never has access to your current location when a hunt starts- It doesn't have a memory for where it's seen you in the time between entering the house and a hunt, and it's blind when a hunt is beginning so it can't see which direction you run either until that initial grace period has passed.

So, No, The ghost won't know where you are when it starts to hunt unless you're making noise on your microphone, Or have an electronic item like a flashlight on while you're in the closet.

There is only one exception to this; The only ghost that ever knows exactly where you are at all times is the newly added Deogen.

All other ghosts will have no clue.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

There is only one exception to this; The only ghost that ever knows exactly where you are at all times is the newly added Deogen.

Wait what? How do you hide from it during a hunt?

[TaterTot]

Why would you stay in a closet the entire time?

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Benjamin:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

There is only one exception to this; The only ghost that ever knows exactly where you are at all times is the newly added Deogen.

Wait what? How do you hide from it during a hunt?

You don't. To use a community term, It's a loopable ghost. In my experience it's very fast when far away, but will slow down whenever it's near you, so it can really only catch you if you corner yourself or screw up the looping.

So to deal with it, If you suspect the ghost could be a deogen(OR MIMIC), You need to not corner yourself during a hunt. You need to pick a hiding place that you can get out of and flee from, etc. Alternatively, keep a smudge stick and lighter in whatever hiding spot you pick. :P


The Deogen Strength/Weakness telegraph this functionality quite directly; Instead of being a bit obtuse and indirect like most other ghosts.

Strength: Deogen constantly sense the living. You can run but you can't hide.

Weakness: Deogen require a lot of energy to form and will move very slowly when approaching its victim.

[Theomax]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The ghost never has access to your current location when a hunt starts- It doesn't have a memory for where it's seen you in the time between entering the house and a hunt, and it's blind when a hunt is beginning so it can't see which direction you run either until that initial grace period has passed.

So, No, The ghost won't know where you are when it starts to hunt unless you're making noise on your microphone, Or have an electronic item like a flashlight on while you're in the closet.

There is only one exception to this; The only ghost that ever knows exactly where you are at all times is the newly added Deogen.

All other ghosts will have no clue.

So if you are downstairs and the ghost room is upstairs and the ghost starts to hunt, in theory you can just hide or stay in that room and hope the ghost doesn't check that room? (if you are quiet and have electrics switched off etc)

Does the ghost always start the hunt from the ghost room, or sometimes from other rooms?

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Theomax:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The ghost never has access to your current location when a hunt starts- It doesn't have a memory for where it's seen you in the time between entering the house and a hunt, and it's blind when a hunt is beginning so it can't see which direction you run either until that initial grace period has passed.

So, No, The ghost won't know where you are when it starts to hunt unless you're making noise on your microphone, Or have an electronic item like a flashlight on while you're in the closet.

There is only one exception to this; The only ghost that ever knows exactly where you are at all times is the newly added Deogen.

All other ghosts will have no clue.

So if you are downstairs and the ghost room is upstairs and the ghost starts to hunt, in theory you can just hide or stay in that room and hope the ghost doesn't check that room? (if you are quiet and have electrics switched off etc)

Does the ghost always start the hunt from the ghost room, or sometimes from other rooms?

To the first, In theory, Yes.

Unless the ghost has seen you, Or you had electronics on/made noise after the hunt starts and were within a range it could detect those, you can basically just stay where you are and be hopeful. I'd recommend finding the nearest hiding place anyway; But you can be more leisurely about it than when you know the ghost started a hunt right next to you. Or at least be ready to hide just in case you hear it coming your way.

To the second, The ghost can start a hunt from anywhere, technically.

The ghost is quite literally an invisible entity that walks around the house just like you do, wherever this invisible entity is when a hunt begins, is where the hunt begins from. So pay close attention to the ghost's activity and you'll know roughly where it's probably going to hunt from.

There is a limit to how far the ghost can roam; EG: On small locations, if the ghost room is something central like the edgefield first floor hallway, it can reach most of the house; while on a medium location, say Prison for example, If the ghost room is A block, you won't see it in B block.

On higher difficulties the ghost room can change which can change where it's roaming around; But it is subject to the same roaming distance restriction. EG: Ghost room on prison changes from A block to B block, then you will no longer see activity in A block.

Wherever the activity is, is the most dangerous place to be. :P

[SFC Gunny]

Originally posted by Lord TaterTot:

Why would you stay in a closet the entire time?

He's probably been a long time van camper, and is now looking for another place to camp the entire match while the rest of the team does all the work.

[Kaisoku]

Something not mentioned.. there's ghosts that have unique abilities to either teleport to you, or target a player and run to their location. Often to do an event or interaction, but it will also potentially trigger a hunt.

I'm not sure how well that interacts with being in a closet when that happens... will it try and do the event in the room outside the closet, hunt and not see you? Maybe... though it might immediately walk by the door and touch it so it opens, and potentially catch a line of sight on the offchance (doesn't happen often, but who knows when starting a hunt directly next to you).

And if its a Deogen or a Mimic copying the Deogen, it could just run to you anyways.

I would say that there's no 100% sure fire "I'm safe forever" method, until you know the ghost and act accordingly.

[Tank Magnet]

Originally posted by Kaisoku:

I'm not sure how well that interacts with being in a closet when that happens... will it try and do the event in the room outside the closet, hunt and not see you? Maybe... though it might immediately walk by the door and touch it so it opens, and potentially catch a line of sight on the offchance (doesn't happen often, but who knows when starting a hunt directly next to you).

This ultimately depends on which kind of interaction or event it is. If the ghost spawns in the room near you but not in the closet and is stationary then you’ll likely be fine aside from the scenario you presented.

However if you get the “Haaah” sound effect from a ghost event or if the ghost walks towards your hiding place and then vanishes, then you almost certainly need to relocate Immediately, as these kinds of ghost events place the ghost directly at your position, meaning It Now Knows Where You Are, Even If You Stay Hidden and if it initiates a hunt right afterwards then it will be very likely to kill you as it will start the hunt Directly On Top Of You. (As long as no mechanics have fundamentally changed recently, this is how it would play out at least, to the best of my knowledge.)

[Kaisoku]

I believe the ghost only "remembers your last location" from hunts, not from events, etc. So if it "saw" you during an event, and then hunted, it won't "go looking at the last location it knows" from that.
My concern was more that it actually starts the hunt from inside the closet (that'd be freaky!) or opens the door right before/as it hunts and it's standing right there.

I guess it would also depend on your reaction time and how much grace time you have (worse on higher difficulty/cursed hunts).

I do know though, that of my friends that play that have trouble escaping during hunts, they will go into a closet/locker and sit there and wait to lower their sanity for objectives. Like a teenager doing a "test of courage" moment, haha.

[Renlish]

Originally posted by Kaisoku:

My concern was more that it actually starts the hunt from inside the closet (that'd be freaky!) or opens the door right before/as it hunts and it's standing right there.

That can and does happen, however I don't believe it's supposed to. It's hilarious though. Some of my team was hiding in a locker and the ghost spawned on that exact spot. I watched it happen because I'd already been killed. It took one of them out immediately. We were all screaming. LOL I think the closets might be coded differently as I've never had a ghost spawn in one - in front of them, yes, but in them, no.

[Theomax]

Originally posted by Tank Magnet:

Originally posted by Kaisoku:

I'm not sure how well that interacts with being in a closet when that happens... will it try and do the event in the room outside the closet, hunt and not see you? Maybe... though it might immediately walk by the door and touch it so it opens, and potentially catch a line of sight on the offchance (doesn't happen often, but who knows when starting a hunt directly next to you).

This ultimately depends on which kind of interaction or event it is. If the ghost spawns in the room near you but not in the closet and is stationary then you’ll likely be fine aside from the scenario you presented.

However if you get the “Haaah” sound effect from a ghost event or if the ghost walks towards your hiding place and then vanishes, then you almost certainly need to relocate Immediately, as these kinds of ghost events place the ghost directly at your position, meaning It Now Knows Where You Are, Even If You Stay Hidden and if it initiates a hunt right afterwards then it will be very likely to kill you as it will start the hunt Directly On Top Of You. (As long as no mechanics have fundamentally changed recently, this is how it would play out at least, to the best of my knowledge.)

I've heard the "Haaah" sound when in a closet - which is why I asked the original question as it seemed the ghost knew I was there. Does that mean the ghost has teleported to that exact location when they make that sound? Or they are somewhere else and it's just a random sound effect?

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Theomax:

Originally posted by Tank Magnet:

This ultimately depends on which kind of interaction or event it is. If the ghost spawns in the room near you but not in the closet and is stationary then you’ll likely be fine aside from the scenario you presented.

However if you get the “Haaah” sound effect from a ghost event or if the ghost walks towards your hiding place and then vanishes, then you almost certainly need to relocate Immediately, as these kinds of ghost events place the ghost directly at your position, meaning It Now Knows Where You Are, Even If You Stay Hidden and if it initiates a hunt right afterwards then it will be very likely to kill you as it will start the hunt Directly On Top Of You. (As long as no mechanics have fundamentally changed recently, this is how it would play out at least, to the best of my knowledge.)

I've heard the "Haaah" sound when in a closet - which is why I asked the original question as it seemed the ghost knew I was there. Does that mean the ghost has teleported to that exact location when they make that sound? Or they are somewhere else and it's just a random sound effect?

Ghost events technically inform the ghost of the players location. The 'Haaah' sound effect happens when the ghost does a mist-form event- It's literally a ball of mist that appears somewhere nearby and approaches the player. Upon reaching the player, it plays the hissing sound effect and removes 10% sanity from the affected player. This event will somewhat rarely fly away from the player instead- but that's not important to the discussion.

This knowledge of the players location does not persist beyond the event, however. The ghost does not have any capacity for remembering a players location before a hunt. It cannot, for example, see you in the living room before a hunt, initiate a hunt, and then beeline straight for the living room because it knew the player WAS there a few seconds ago.


The ghost DOES have a memory for what happens DURING a hunt and possibly (50% chance iirc) retains that memory into the next hunt, however. IE, In Hunt #1, The ghost sees and chases the player, eventually losing track of them in the kitchen and they manage to hide and safely end the hunt without the ghost seeing them again. When Hunt #2 inevitably begins, the ghost has a 50% chance of remembering that the last place it saw the player was in the kitchen- IF it remembers, then regardless of where the hunt begins, it will bee-line straight for the kitchen as the last place it saw the player and begin searching around that area first before wandering off to search elsewhere.

However, This possible memory does not carry into multiple subsequent hunts- Only the next hunt has this chance, So, if it doesn't beeline for the kitchen in Hunt #2, then it won't in #3+ either.


Also to answer some other things, I don't believe the ghost is capable of entering closets, or lockers for that matter. It can walk up directly against the closet/locker in order to kill a player within, but not IN them. Even the mist-ball ghost event expires and makes the hissing sound effect when the orb is about a half meter away from the player- Close enough to occur while hiding, but far enough that it doesn't have to enter a closet/locker to do so.

There are hacks/cheats/mods that enable players to make the ghost do things it normally can't, however. But to my knowledge, there are not any pathing nodes inside any of the closets/lockers; The ghost literally cannot path into them in vanilla gameplay. Just right up to them.

[Maya-Neko]

The ghost definitely don't know, where you are and will follow the same rules every hunt. So if you're staying in the same closet all the time, chances are high that you won't die. But the ghost will obviously still interact with its surroundings, especially with doors while hunting, so it's quite common, that the ghost also opens closet doors every now and then, if it passes your location.

Originally posted by Theomax:

I've heard the "Haaah" sound when in a closet - which is why I asked the original question as it seemed the ghost knew I was there. Does that mean the ghost has teleported to that exact location when they make that sound? Or they are somewhere else and it's just a random sound effect?

A player needs to be near the ghost to trigger a ghost event, so it's most certainly somewhere around you at that point. And the smoke ball event (which causes the hissing after touching a player), will cause the smoke ball flying towards the player, who caused the event, so in this instance the smoke ball definitely knows, where you are, but the ghost itself doesn't get that information.

Also the Wraith can definitely teleport to you within a 3m radius, so having events far away from the ghost room could hint to this ghost type. But with The Twins, the decoy twin might also cause events far away from the ghost room. And if you're playing on a smaller map, then it might also just be the ghost itself, who randomly started a long roam towards your location.

And if you play on professional or nightmare difficulty, then the ghost room can also change, so if you're unlucky, then the ghost closes the gap to you that way.

So overall: the ghost will check for players near them, when trying to start a ghost event, but it won't save that information for a hunt at any point.

[Emurinus]

With the exception of the Deogen, ghosts geberally won't find you inside a closet unless you give yourself away.

That said, if they perform a ghost event that travels to you and collides, or a Wraith (maybe Banshee/Phantom too) uses their ability, then they now have your exact location even inside a safe spot.