Crucifix objective

[ArcDnB]

I've been sitting here in the ghost room in pitch black for half an hour. Thaye refuses to activate the crucifix. Why give me this objective if it can't be completed?

[joyousdeath85]

Thats how I feel about the ghost photo objective. It's not worth it if someone has to die to get it.

[WolfLink0370]

In your case it's partially on you here... because you likely forgot about the fact that a Thaye becomes significantly weaker the more time you spend near it, which not only affects it's speed... but also the required average sanity that it needs to start hunting in the first place.

Like if you spent a half hour in it's ghost room like you said... it was probably near you so much that it got to it's weakest point by then, which meant your average sanity needed to be below 15% for it to even attempt a hunt to burn the crucifix.

Like if you knew it was a Thaye before fishing for the crucifix objective... it was almost assuredly better to hide inside a hallway closet or other hiding spot a decent distance away from the ghost room... so as to prevent you from aging it any further and keep the hunt threshold high.

[ArcDnB]

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

In your case it's partially on you here... because you likely forgot about the fact that a Thaye becomes significantly weaker the more time you spend near it, which not only affects it's speed... but also the required average sanity that it needs to start hunting in the first place.

Like if you spent a half hour in it's ghost room like you said... it was probably near you so much that it got to it's weakest point by then, which meant your average sanity needed to be below 15% for it to even attempt a hunt to burn the crucifix.

Like if you knew it was a Thaye before fishing for the crucifix objective... it was almost assuredly better to hide inside a hallway closet or other hiding spot a decent distance away from the ghost room... so as to prevent you from aging it any further and keep the hunt threshold high.

So how was I supposed to complete the objective at that point? You have to stand in the ghost room near the crucifix for the ghost to trigger it.

[OriginalKwnnTTV]

Was the objective to prevent a hunt with a crucifix? Because you don't have to be in the ghost room for that, or even near the ghost. You can hide on the opposite end of the map and the ghost can start a hunt. Especially with a Thaye - just put the crucifix down and hide elsewhere, and keep checking your journal for the completed notification.

[Banshee Target]

A very old Thaye has a hunt threshold of 15%. If you are standing in the light, your sanity won't drop. Adding to that, an old Thaye is less active, so less ghost events to further reduce your sanity. It's possible your sanity was too high to trigger a crucifix burn.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by ArcDnB:

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

In your case it's partially on you here... because you likely forgot about the fact that a Thaye becomes significantly weaker the more time you spend near it, which not only affects it's speed... but also the required average sanity that it needs to start hunting in the first place.

Like if you spent a half hour in it's ghost room like you said... it was probably near you so much that it got to it's weakest point by then, which meant your average sanity needed to be below 15% for it to even attempt a hunt to burn the crucifix.

Like if you knew it was a Thaye before fishing for the crucifix objective... it was almost assuredly better to hide inside a hallway closet or other hiding spot a decent distance away from the ghost room... so as to prevent you from aging it any further and keep the hunt threshold high.

So how was I supposed to complete the objective at that point? You have to stand in the ghost room near the crucifix for the ghost to trigger it.

Uh... no? The crucifix just has to be where the ghost is, It doesn't matter where you are in relation to the ghost or the crucifix. You could be on the complete opposite side of the house stuffed inside a box, and the ghost can still trigger a crucifix. (Edit for extra info: And just to be clear, the ghost is a roaming entity that is capable of leaving it's room; The crucifix must be where the ghost is at the time the hunt attempt is made, not just in the ghost's room.)

I have no idea how you got the impression that you must be near the crucifix for it to work, but that impression is patently wrong.

[Shaken_Widow]

you messed up by sitting next to the crucifix the whole time.

the way i've always used it was putting the crucifix in front of the exit to their room because it has a radius of protection that the ghost cannot pass, it must burn it to be able to pass it.

then we continue to roam the house looking for things like the bone, (this is all after we have already found the evidences too,) and usually on our way out the crucifix will burst into flames.

[Maya-Neko]

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

you messed up by sitting next to the crucifix the whole time.

the way i've always used it was putting the crucifix in front of the exit to their room because it has a radius of protection that the ghost cannot pass, it must burn it to be able to pass it.

then we continue to roam the house looking for things like the bone, (this is all after we have already found the evidences too,) and usually on our way out the crucifix will burst into flames.

Are you spreading misinformation on purpose? Like it's not the first time, that you've come up with such nonsense. And if you mean that serious, then i would recommend you to literally forget everything you think how the game works and starting all over again to learn, how the game actually works.

That said no, the crucifix doesn't stop the ghost from going past it. It's only functionality is to prevent the ghost starting a hunt when it is started within the crucifixes radius. In any other situation the ghost can just freely past it, no matter if it's within a hunt or outside of it. And it also doesn't matter where the player stands in most cases, because the crucifix' ability is independent from the players position, though for any DOTS-ghost it's usually recommended to stay within the crucifix range or outside the ghost room, since when the ghost starts its DOTS-mode with a player in the same room, it will walk towards the nearest player (thus you really don't want to stand outside of the crucifix range, just in case it starts to hunt right afterwards)

And in case of the crucifix objective, the best thing to do is in fact to place them in a way, that as much as possible is covered within the ghost room. Putting it in the doorway usually leaves some space in the back of a room and at this point it's just purely RNG, if the ghost coincidentally starts a hunt from within the crucifix range or outside of it.

Now for the Thaye it can help to stay away from the ghost, but eventually the teams sanity will still drop below 15 %, at which point it's just a matter of time, until even the oldest Thaye will eventually hunt.

[One2Actual]

The ghost was probably a shade who will not hunt if the player is in the same room. If a hunt is not started then the Crucifix will not burn.....

[steventirey]

Not only do you not need to be near the crucifix for it to prevent the hunt, the crucifix doesn't even need to be in the house. In some locations, the truck is close enough to some of the rooms for the crucifix to go off while still hanging on the wall in the truck.

[Banshee Target]

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

Originally posted by Shaken_Widow:

you messed up by sitting next to the crucifix the whole time.

the way i've always used it was putting the crucifix in front of the exit to their room because it has a radius of protection that the ghost cannot pass, it must burn it to be able to pass it.

then we continue to roam the house looking for things like the bone, (this is all after we have already found the evidences too,) and usually on our way out the crucifix will burst into flames.

Are you spreading misinformation on purpose? Like it's not the first time, that you've come up with such nonsense.

He's been doing that since months. I saw him doing it more and more in the recent days.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by ArcDnB:

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

In your case it's partially on you here... because you likely forgot about the fact that a Thaye becomes significantly weaker the more time you spend near it, which not only affects it's speed... but also the required average sanity that it needs to start hunting in the first place.

Like if you spent a half hour in it's ghost room like you said... it was probably near you so much that it got to it's weakest point by then, which meant your average sanity needed to be below 15% for it to even attempt a hunt to burn the crucifix.

Like if you knew it was a Thaye before fishing for the crucifix objective... it was almost assuredly better to hide inside a hallway closet or other hiding spot a decent distance away from the ghost room... so as to prevent you from aging it any further and keep the hunt threshold high.

So how was I supposed to complete the objective at that point? You have to stand in the ghost room near the crucifix for the ghost to trigger it.

The crucifix works in proximity to the ghost, not the player.

As a basic explanation on how the Crucifix actually works... when the ghost decides to hunt, it first checks if it is currently standing within range of a crucifix with charges; if it sees one... it consumes a charge instead of hunting.

In the case of the Twins, if it chooses the "fast twin" to hunt... it will do this check as normal, but after it does not see one it then immediately teleports to the site of it's last interaction caused by it's unique ability.

[Myth Alric]

If you stay in the room with a Thaye it weakens. It will still hunt eventually though. If you weakened it to the max, all you can really do is just wait at that point. If you are playing with other people, make sure they all drain their sanity too. If someone is sitting in the truck or in the light, you are just making it worse.

On a side note, if you have a tier 3 crucifix, you can break the cursed item to make it hunt and the crucifix will still work(lower tier wont stop a cursed hunt).