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[Sonicle]

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[Ripshot Blue]

cold breath only tells you the room if the breaker is on for abit as the rest of the map normalises in temp. While that does tell you if thats the room, Its not instant as breaker needs to be on & thats all it does unlike old phasmo where seeing a breath was actually evidence. Current cold breath is just a fail safe to find the room incase you got a very quiet or passive ghost. If you want a challenge, play with the breaker broken with less evidences, Thats why custom exists.

[Ripshot Blue]

Temperatures only decrease when the ghost is within a room, and although the ghost is more likely to stay in its ghost room, making it colder, freezing temperatures do not necessarily indicate the ghost room. Additionally, temperatures do not return to normal immediately after a ghost leaves a room. This means that multiple rooms can be freezing at once, and that players should not assume that low or freezing temperatures guarantees that the ghost is still in that room.

This info was confirmed by CJ & hasnt been touched since. On easier difficulties where the ghost has a low chance to leave its room, Cold Breath can easily tell you its room, in Higher difficulties where the ghost actually swaps rooms & roams, you can have half a floor of rooms being cold.

[Shaken_Widow]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Within the first 30s of entering a location, freezing breath is going to be the ghost room in 99% of all cases. Even if it's not the ghost room, it's the adjacent room which is more than enough to render the rest of the location pointless unless you get that 1% case where the ghost immediately changes it's room - and even then, it can't go far,

I know how temperatures work, I just think it's a really dumb mechanic that removes a lot of the investigation, on lower difficulties the game already tells you what room it's in, there is no need for this mechanic to exist on higher difficulties.

pretty sure multiple people have said this now but FREEZING BREATH DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE GHOST ROOM

it just means the ghost is either in the room with you or that the breakers haven't heated the room up yet, you can walk around the entire prison or high school with cold breath in every single room before the breaker gets flipped.

and to clarify earlier, just like in real life: it only shows cold breath if there is a big difference between your body temp and the room your in, it doesn't signify freezing temps whatsoever.

[Banshee Target]

I think OP meant to say "cold breath" instead of "freezing temps".

There are multiple weather types with different ambient temperatures. In most cases, seeing breath is a good indicator you found the ghost room, as there are currently 2 ways to see breath: Either it's snowy weather, which makes the entire map's ambient temperature 5°C or the ghost made that room cold by being there. You can see cold breath when the room you are in is 5°C or lower. There is no correlation between your ability to find the favourite room by Thermometer alone and the breaker's status. It's just a wide-spread misconception. All you have to do is to find the room which is colder than the ambient weather temperature. In *most* cases, it's enough. Even on Snowy weather you don't necessarily need to turn on breaker to find the room. We know the whole map is 5°C, so we just need to find a room that is colder. The most important aspect of the breaker is giving you the ability to keep your sanity high by turning on lights. Also to test for Jinns and making the house warmer to counter Hantus. Finding the ghost room by Thermometer is perfectly possible even with a broken fuse box.

Light Rain, Heavy Rain and Windy are 8°C, which is only 3°C higher than 5°C, making it possible for a very roamy ghost to cause cold breath in rooms that are not actually its favourite room. Keep in mind that the speed of warming up is much slower than the speed on cooling down, so it's possible you can see breath in a room the ghost left a while ago.

Other weather types(Sunrise, Clear, Fog, Blood Moon) have much higher ambient temperature (16°C and 13°C), so seeing breath is only possible in the ghost's favourite room. You can argue it can still happen with an extremely roamy ghost, but thankfully this never happened to me yet.

As for the original post, there's really no reason the remove cold breath. If anything, it's in the game for immersion. I still think it's a useful feature, even if it's no longer means Freezing Temps.

[Dragonmaster]

Post above explained it well. Freezing temps is fine. Like how long since that change happened now. Breath is a good indicator of the ghost room or close to the ghost room unless weather is snowy due to ambient temp. And amature starts with the breaker on so house ambient temp starts at 20-22. This is actually kinda bad since the ghost room also starts at that temp and takes a while to cool.

[Emurinus]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

It's absolutely pointless, before it was just a passive piece of evidence that confirmed itself, now it just confirms the ghost room instantly unless it's snowing outside.

The game is essentially back to how it was on release where you'd walk in and listen for the ghost making the footstep sound, except now it's a visual cue.

Replace it with something else entirely, that way you can use cold temps to find the area the ghost is in on larger maps instead of how its currently implemented.

Either that or make sure it doesn't appear within the first 3 minutes of entering a location (depending on size), finding the ghost room in less than 10s in a game is just dull.

So what? I don't see how that's any worse than orbs outright confirming the ghost room, sometimes even before entering the building, or just walking in to a room and getting a random EMF spike or seeing an object noticeably out of place.

The changes to temps were primarily to force players to use the thermo. Hell, they even nerfed the temp drop rate once it reaches the ambient temperature of the weather, so warmer weather generally has to take even longer to reach freezing temps.

Temps being used to quickly find the ghost room is fine. If anything, the complaint should be how utterly boring and passive the evidence itself is.

[Ellixen]

Now if they added custom options to remove certain things like freezing temps/ cold breath I'm on board. However, I'll always be against broad sweeping changes to everyone's game because you personally don't like something in it. There's custom difficulty for a reason if the game's too easy for you which seems to be your actual complaint.

[Ellixen]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Ellixen:

Now if they added custom options to remove certain things like freezing temps/ cold breath I'm on board. However, I'll always be against broad sweeping changes to everyone's game because you personally don't like something in it. There's custom difficulty for a reason if the game's too easy for you which seems to be your actual complaint.

Does custom difficulty remove freezing breath from appearing?

Honestly no idea, if it doesn't, I fully agree that it should be added as an option. I know for sure you can change certain things about the ghosts like how often they hunt and how fast they are.

Edit, Just checked, not an option, but you can change how often the ghost changes rooms. I know that's not the same as what you were asking, but it would largely negate the cold breath mechanic.

[Geva]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Does custom difficulty remove freezing breath from appearing?

You could play with a broken breaker and only snowy weather, that way you will always have cold breath regardless where you are.

[Maya-Neko]

You could just switch the breaker being on by default through custom difficulty settings. That means depending on the weather the freezing breath can't appear before a specific time due to how temeprature changes:
- sunrise: 383 seconds
- clear/fog/blood moon: 333 seconds
- light rain, heavy rain, windy: 250 seconds
- snow: 200 seconds
- Time to get from 5°C to 0,9°C: 133 seconds (add that to the above time and that's the earliest you can verify freezing)

And that's only if the ghost stays in a single room, but realistically at high roaming settings, it's probably 50 % higher and with room changes being allowed it might take even more time depending on how often it changes. So for small houses, you're most likely gonna find the ghost through other means first before seeing the breath, unless you take so long, that having the breath is probably a good addition to help you out.