Phasmophobia

Phasmophobia

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ReignDownMe Oct 18, 2020 @ 7:55pm
3rd Person View.... (good reason)
Mty Girlfriend and I would love to play, but 1st person (even viewing the video play of others) makes her motion sick which 3rd person does not. While we get the first aspect was VR (1st person) it would be EXTREMELY helpful for those like my GF to get 3rd person.

Even if it was like close to over the shoulder, doesn't have to be far back, would be most helpful.
Please let us know, we are waiting to purchase it once it has occurred. Thank you.
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Winters Oct 18, 2020 @ 8:22pm 
I doubt this game would ever have 3rd person due to the way interactions with objects work.

That said you can train your body to not get motion sickness. Just play a fps games that makes her motion sick daily. As soon as she starts feeling it stop, and try again later. She'll get better with time.

Echorion Oct 18, 2020 @ 8:32pm 
The way the game was done it's not really possible for that to be done without overhauling the entire game; a feat that I don't see happening any time soon- especially given how third person would detract from the intended mood.

If you get motion sick in VR, and don't want to ween onto it in VR, I would suggest just playing the game in desktop mode; it's a great game even without VR.

If neither of those things appeal to you, then yeah all you can really do is pass on the game.

ReignDownMe Oct 18, 2020 @ 9:01pm 
Actually NO, there doesn't need to be a overhaul of the game mechanics nor would it stop the way objects work .

If that was true then you wouldn't see your co-players "model" as they move. The model for your camera move has only the arms and hands showing.

The solution is adjusting the 'camera' perspective angle above and back, then adding the relative '3rd person' model to the 'arms and hands'. This is not 'breaking the game'

YES there has been other "Its first person only" games that do have 3rd person say "only in Admin Mode" or modded on, which again same thing (adding a new 'model' for the player than just arms or hands and adjusting the camera rendering angle).


An example of this is on the Store page for the game. The VR view and where the hands are compared to the 'screen shot' showing in non-VR mode, the hand placement and view point is changed.


NO you can't 'train' your body for that, it comes from many factors that are affected.
Hael Oct 18, 2020 @ 10:18pm 
In the meantime until this was potentially added, does the game have FOV settings?

If not, that should be tweakable.

I've known some people with similar issues as your girlfriend in other games and increasing the FOV does a lot to ease motion sickness in their cases.
TheLastSeeker Oct 18, 2020 @ 10:52pm 
Recheck IPD settings for both, that can help with motion sickness as such a fan can help as well.
Originally posted by NeroNightFire:


NO you can't 'train' your body for that, it comes from many factors that are affected.

You can absolutely train your body to overcome motion sickness, the same way you can overcome feelings of vertigo. I have done it. It will take you a few months and it isn't exactly fun, but afterwards you'll be set for life (driving, boating and gaming included).

A quick Google search will set you on your way if you want other sources.

It isn't complicated. Set a regimen of linear-progressive exposure to specific triggers for symptoms, stopping shortly before symptoms occur and never going more than 24 hours without conducting actions that trigger symptoms.

In practice, play and set a timer. When she feels sick, stop the timer (lets say it is 10 minutes). Roll the clock back slightly (8 minutes 30 seconds) and play for that amount of time the next day and stop. The day after, play for 8 minutes and 45 seconds and stop. The next day, 9 minutes, etc. Do this every single day for several months. If at some point she starts getting sick, roll the timer back again slightly and keep going. Eventually, the "timer" will be at several hours - longer than you would reasonably be expected to play a game in one sitting -- and the motion sickness won't be a problem any more.

If she goes a few years without doing something that triggers the motion sickness, it may come back (though in a milder form), but the odds of that seem pretty slim.
Syren Oct 19, 2020 @ 8:07am 
Hi, I'm the gf on this. I have attempted training my body but after a stroke and other disabilities that play a part "training" my brain for any 1st person game, vr or not, I still get ill fast. It is an issue with my brain not able to compensate for the 1st person viewing and get migraines and ill fast. It isn't so much motion sick. It is a brain compensation issue due to the wiring of my brain. And I am not alone in this. Nero was trying to be helpful and knew I wished to play but can't due to this. Yes this is something I even spoke with my neurologist concerning and he said many people have the same issue as I do. Sadly, we are usually not accounted for by game developers. And as someone above said, I will simply have to pass on something I would have enjoyed once again. Not a big deal. I have gotten used to it.
JenaJinx Nov 18, 2020 @ 12:11pm 
YES please, I have the same issue of motion sickness, 3rd person mode would help so much! Devs, I really hope you add it soooooon.
mldb88 Nov 18, 2020 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Haelikor:
In the meantime until this was potentially added, does the game have FOV settings?

If not, that should be tweakable.

I've known some people with similar issues as your girlfriend in other games and increasing the FOV does a lot to ease motion sickness in their cases.

This. I find that adjusting the FOV can work wonders on those with motion sickness. With a few tweaks (and maybe adjusting mouse sensitivity to make movements less jarring) you should be good to go (if the devs add the option).
Pisaro (Banned) Nov 18, 2020 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by NeroNightFire:

NO you can't 'train' your body for that, it comes from many factors that are affected.

In facts, you can. A while ago, I wasn't able to play in VR. Motion sickness like hell, doesn't matter wich game. So hard the I have to puke.

So I was tying to play VR games only 10 minutes in a day with my extreme motion sickness. After a while, I was able to play 15 minutes withoutotion sickness... Then 30 minutes, then more then a hour.

It took me a long time to play on VR (more then a half year) , but now I don't have problems with it!
Last edited by Pisaro; Nov 18, 2020 @ 1:45pm
TribalBob Nov 21, 2020 @ 5:17pm 
Third person is not as easy as putting the camera out. You have to account for things like world geo - you can get into weird situations where the camera either clips through the walls and you see EVERYTHING in the game or you make it so the camera won't and now you have it zooming in and out constantly as you walk past items.

For the dev of an indie game, that can be a very difficult task to implement when the game was not designed for 3rd person in the first place.
Nyx (She/Her) Nov 21, 2020 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Pisaro27:
Originally posted by NeroNightFire:

NO you can't 'train' your body for that, it comes from many factors that are affected.

In facts, you can. A while ago, I wasn't able to play in VR. Motion sickness like hell, doesn't matter wich game. So hard the I have to puke.

So I was tying to play VR games only 10 minutes in a day with my extreme motion sickness. After a while, I was able to play 15 minutes withoutotion sickness... Then 30 minutes, then more then a hour.

It took me a long time to play on VR (more then a half year) , but now I don't have problems with it!
Congratulations. Now please realize and accept that your experience is not universal.
Yinzer Gaming Jan 4, 2021 @ 8:42pm 
Originally posted by Winters:
I doubt this game would ever have 3rd person due to the way interactions with objects work.

That said you can train your body to not get motion sickness. Just play a fps games that makes her motion sick daily. As soon as she starts feeling it stop, and try again later. She'll get better with time.

No you cannot train your body. I love people that say this. These are usually people that do not have this issue. I wouldn't have bought the game if I had known it was First Person Only.
theguynamedguy Jan 4, 2021 @ 8:54pm 
Your own character model isn't rendered in the game.

If you have someone point a camera at you and you look at the computer, you won't be able to see yourself. So they can't just pull the camera out to make it third-person.
Canadian Mar 9, 2021 @ 3:44pm 
Plz, I need 3rd person view. I can only play a few games and move my camera very slowly otherwise I get dizzy and nauseous.
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