The Way the T1 Thermometer works

[thrythlind]

The randomness does not see to apply directly to what the thermo is reading, but to the target number.

The thermo will either read that target number (T2 & T3) or start moving toward it.

So, with a room temperature of about 15 C, the T1's target number will fluctuate between (arbitrary numbers) maybe 17 C and 13 C. But if the ghost has lowered the temperature to a real temperature of around 6 C then the T1 thermo will consistently move downward until it gets to between 8 C and 4 C.

This means that it's application in finding the ghost room has not changed, you just need to look for it dropping significantly and avoid the randomized dips.Watching it for a couple of seconds should be fine for that.

Getting freezing will require a bit more patience since a freezing ghost could vary between (again arbitrary numbers) 2 C and -2 C if it is right at 0. So a ghost that roams a bit might be difficult to catch.

So, if the thermo starts zooming down... that's what you're looking for... if it sort of dips, that's not enough.

[halflife2]

The randomisation in other areas of the game typically use a "baseline plus a variable factor" or "baseline minus a variable factor" - so they only really vary on one side of the "actual" value. I *think* this should mean that for freezing temps you just need to see anything that's below 1 degree like before - so regardless of the "wiggle", if it goes to zero then it can be classed as freezing. The same applies for the T2 and T3 so if you ever see 0.9 or lower (even if the next reading is back about 1.0) then it's freezing.

As you say, if you see the reading going down and continue to go down then the room has a lower temp rather than it being the natural variability.

I tend to use the T3 all the time (when it's available) but have had a few tries with the T1 and find it not too difficult to use.

[Silver_KSA]

Phasmo update without a major nerf is not an update.

Thanks for the information.

[Maya-Neko]

randomization only happens above the actual temperature, so if it's 15°C, then it will show something between 15 and 18, but not below it, unless the actual temperature already raised about 15.

That said, you'll never get anything below 1°C for non-freezing ghosts, since the randomness can't go lower than the current temperature.

Originally posted by Silver_KSA:

Phasmo update without a major nerf is not an update.

honestly this is only a minor nerf. The thermo still works as good in finding the ghost room as before (now needing to wait like 6 seconds instead of 3 doesn't make it worse to find the room in my opinion) and the only thing that has real gameplay impact is, that you can't use the bug anymore to rule out freezing.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by Silver_KSA:

Phasmo update without a major nerf is not an update.

Thanks for the information.

Like Maya said - they didn't nerf the T1 thermometer.

Very early into Ascension it was confirmed by the developers that its behavior regarding accuracy was -NOT- intentional; This recent update finally saw that behavior corrected.

In other words - T1 Thermo being accurate was nothing more than a beneficial bug (which is actually not all that common to begin with, let alone for it to be so easy to use); due to its strictly helpful nature, it was deemed a "low priority" fix... which is why it wasn't corrected until now when a bunch of fixes were implemented, and even then... they also significantly buffed the other two thermometers at the same time.

[thrythlind]

Yeah, I didn't take this as a nerf. Finding the room with the tier 1 is effectively unchanged and since my normal habit was to leave the thermo sitting in the room for a while and check it later, usually long enough for it to get deeply freezing, my use of it as a whole has gone unchanged.

I did not realize the randomization never dropped below actual, I figured that was only a feature of non-freezing ghosts near 1 C. So thanks for the info.

[Dragonmaster]

AS been stated, The t1 works pretty much how its always worked but now its not a "perfect" ghost tracker. The thermo works by looking at the hidden "ACUTAL" temp of the room, applying a randomized 0-3 to it and the mercury moves "toward" that number. This is the "target" temp (same number that shows on the T2 and T3). Every few seconds it checks again and moves the mercury towards that new number.

IE. if the thermo is currently reading 20. The ROOM is 15 and the random roll is 1, then the target temp is 16 and since the thermo is currently 20, it will start to drop. X seconds later, its rechecked and rerolled, say its now 16 and the random roll is 2 and the thermo dropped to 18, the target is 18 and the thermo is 18 thus it wont move until the next update. If you walked into the ghost room the ghost room is always generally <6. Base house temp with the breaker on is roughly 20 thus if you are in a room and the temp is going down <10 then high chance you've found the ghost room

The T1 thermo works perfectly fine for determing the ghost room and is still a very strong option as the number is always available without holding and can be easily viewed, if you see anything under 1 at ANY point, its a freezing ghost.