Streamer Banned because Lead Dev has Double Standards?

[Bloody Bubba]

https://youtu.be/mQ-5ZE7T8-0?si=BlzlOHhhb9LOM-dX

[Emurinus]

Originally posted by Impending Sky:

TL;DR - The favoritism is unacceptable but how Bearded behaved was also unacceptable. He knew this and continued doing so anyway. And the devs are the boss. The boss can always get away with more than the rest.. Even if that concept is stinky. The devs agreed to stop it.

This is probably the best summary of it. Both parties are at fault and while Baron is morally correct here, he didn't take the best course of action and ended up punished as a result.

[Sam]

Posting videos about blatant favoritism by devs, devs don't like being called out. Devs ban the guy and tell psycho "don't do it anymore, and don't tell anyone about this!"

Yeah that's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ double standard there.
The abuser got away scot free, and the guy calling it out gets banned.
What a terrific crew!

[Virtuous Guard]

Originally posted by sam:

Posting videos about blatant favoritism by devs, devs don't like being called out. Devs ban the guy and tell psycho "don't do it anymore, and don't tell anyone about this!"

Yeah that's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ double standard there.
The abuser got away scot free, and the guy calling it out gets banned.
What a terrific crew!

"The guy calling it out" got banned for repeatedly posting it in their Discord. It was in the video. They didn't retaliate on him for posting a video on YouTube. He's not a partner anymore. He can still play the game.

BEARDED was told not to tell anyone about the exploit. This was the start of the conversation and wasn't even addressed to Psycho. You're framing this in a very odd way. Talk about favoritism. ..Seriously did we watch the same video?

[Malgus]

Its not the first time and probably not the last time the Devs of this game, leapt before looking, so to speak. Honestly the weekly playing/steaming games with a very small sub-group of 'official' Phasmo CCs needs to stop. Additional CJ needs to be removed from being the defacto 'voice' of Phasmo altogether. All CCs should be treated equally and the favoritism needs to end. However the way things have gone the last two years, I am not sure how much longer Phasmo will stay relevant anyway...

[Trooper Bri]

He seems like a young pup, and hasn't figured out yet in life what's really worth the cause. Or even what's his business.

In this case it's some bit of nonsense in a video game. Was it worth poking the bee's nest over something that had no direct impact on him. Hell no.
Now he's tagged with butting heads with developers, and then dragging it on further. Not a good look in the gaming community, and he'll be facing closed doors in the future potentially.

What he needs to do is a complete 180, get a big fat slice of humble pie, and apologize. The sooner, the better.

[Vill Jalentine]

Damn influencers getting games, updates, exploits and bans sooner than normal folks.
Having favorites is ok i guess, its their game. But brushing exploits under the rug instead of using it to your advantage and fix the stuff is kinda like shooting yourself in the leg. Twice in this case. Rip Bozo

[Jimmy Hunter]

The streamer played stupid games and won a stupid prize. The Devs played fast and loose on favoritism like they've been doing since they felt certain people are more deserving then others to get updates early. They also played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

As far as I'm concerned, they're all at fault for this situation.

[Xiepher]

I think what EVERYONE is missing here is the monetization portion of this entire thing. Think of it this way, your entire life revolves around "content creation". When the developer of a game gives a specific content creator exclusive access to a vehicle that allows them to have a limited time exclusivity on releasing a first out of the gate video on something like a challenge. Nearly all other videos on that same subject get ignored. It is irrelevant the production value, talent, or any other part of the video.

Why do you think content creators rush to get videos out.

Everyone thinking this is about an "unfair" advantage in the game is SORELY missing out on the real point.

Both people were part of the same organization, both people were part of the supposedly "equal" partner program. One CLEARLY had been given an edge to monetization and views on their videos by the devs.

[Boredom_Incarnate]

I think some nuance here that I read at least is..
It's not that people think the ban in a vacuum is the issue, but rather that the ban confirms the really inappropriate behavior by the devs. Or confirms it harder(?), I think any new evidence of that kind of thing on their part is going to stoke the flames again, really.

I didn't realize they could even be banned for showing exploits. I only watched Insym up til now (got tired of his condescension and aggression with viewers though) and since he's practically firstborn-child with Phasmo, he's posted hours of exploits and still plays friendly, even non-phasmo games with the dev team.

[littleDjango]

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

So to summarize:

- Psycho asked the devs to do stuff earlier and got the allowance and now, that the devs said, that they don't like it, Psycho apologized and said, that he won't use it anymore.

- BeardedBaron, now with this topic being made more clear to all partners, decided to break the rules by posting about this exploit over and over again and then gets mad, that he got banned from the partner discord for breaking the rules

I don't see, where the double standard is hiding here actually. Sure, they could've stopped Psycho earlier and that should've been done, however the actions of BeardedBaron are a fully seperate episode and clearly intended to piss off the devs by intentionally ignoring the NDA part of the partner program. I wouldn't even be surprised, if he intended to get banned, just so that he can make a video about it.

In my opinion th3BeardedBaron did chose to not take the high road, however i believe as the person holding the moral high ground that he indeed could do what he has done. I think that what the devs have done is unbelievable in a game I enjoy. IMO I think that it only happened a few times it should have been talked about and then closed off professionally. HOWEVER, they admit that they knew that at least one streamer was actively taking advantage of a huge exploit that gave unfair advantage to one or more streamers. I understand CJ's actions if he is friends with a player, however they clearly admit that it gave Psycho a clear and obvious advantage and don't really apologise about it. This is what upsets me, in the world of small streamers who commit to promoting a small game, you should instate a streamer option to pre-play content if you wish to give advantage to creators.

Th3BeardedBaron's video can be seen on his youtube or here: https://youtu.be/mQ-5ZE7T8-0?si=pskT1J2upRJtlp_o

[littleDjango]

Originally posted by Trooper Bri:

He seems like a young pup, and hasn't figured out yet in life what's really worth the cause. Or even what's his business.

In this case it's some bit of nonsense in a video game. Was it worth poking the bee's nest over something that had no direct impact on him. Hell no.
Now he's tagged with butting heads with developers, and then dragging it on further. Not a good look in the gaming community, and he'll be facing closed doors in the future potentially.

What he needs to do is a complete 180, get a big fat slice of humble pie, and apologize. The sooner, the better.

Curious how this is just a bit of nonsense. Other creators were intentionally given access to an exploit in order to get videos out on time in order to avoid losing views to other creators. But when confronted about it they agree with psycho who claims that it is not an unfair advantage, however the whole point of letting him use the exploit is so that he, "doesn't miss out on a big oportunity"? This is what upset me and I'd like to hear your take on it

[Dragon_Dude1]

the devs are crazy obsessed with being our masters, the whole banning system for the weak minded emotional players who have a hard time leaving a lobby instead of playing with someone who does things like cheating or modding. Bunch of commie wanna-be libtards

[Trooper Bri]

Originally posted by littleDjango:

Originally posted by Trooper Bri:

He seems like a young pup, and hasn't figured out yet in life what's really worth the cause. Or even what's his business.

In this case it's some bit of nonsense in a video game. Was it worth poking the bee's nest over something that had no direct impact on him. Hell no.
Now he's tagged with butting heads with developers, and then dragging it on further. Not a good look in the gaming community, and he'll be facing closed doors in the future potentially.

What he needs to do is a complete 180, get a big fat slice of humble pie, and apologize. The sooner, the better.

Curious how this is just a bit of nonsense. Other creators were intentionally given access to an exploit in order to get videos out on time in order to avoid losing views to other creators. But when confronted about it they agree with psycho who claims that it is not an unfair advantage, however the whole point of letting him use the exploit is so that he, "doesn't miss out on a big oportunity"? This is what upset me and I'd like to hear your take on it

My take?

---> Life isn't fair. <--- Life throws manure at you constantly. I'm a corporate fella that has to deal with just under 1300 retail stores for seasonal product.
My job is to keep those shelves stocked while getting kicked in the junk through customs issues, weather issues, you name it. Problems galore!
Sometimes I have to take a beating for problems outside my control, smile, and remain calm while I do my best. Been doing it for 15 years.

And I do my best. Because if I don't, there a line of people behind me that want a crack at my office.
He seems like a nice enough fella, but he's gotta settle down. How long is he going to stream with "BANNED" as the first word in his title? In the grand world of gaming content creators, he's a small fish wearing fake goggles. He can either nail that brand to the wall, or make it the petard he's hoisting himself onto at the moment.

[Bloody Bubba]

It blows my mind the number of people saying Bearded Baron was "Somewhat" in the wrong. as if Exposing Corruption and Favoritism is somehow EVER Unjustifiable. its 100% CLEAR that Dknighter is an emotionally driven Crybaby with WAY too many Pickles hidden in his "Spirit Box" imagine getting so worked up and defensive over a game that's 90% Unity Store Assets, and 10% Hopes, Wishes and Promises of "Future Console Ports" lol. if the Console Port ever DOES come out, its going to have more Bugs than a Pimps Crotch

[Sierra]

I've never seen devs so eager to ban their own player base before, definitely seems like some weird power tripping, ego problem thing at this point. It's not the first time they have openly played favorites either. Sucks this is what the game turned into.