You can actually bring old/lower tier versions of gear you upgraded

[ForteDS]

Don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but that store interface is dreadful and I only just now figured this out myself. If you unlocked, say, Tier 2 UV but realize Tier 1 is better, you can actually bring the glowstick with you instead. You just got to click the symbol in the upper left hand corner of the piece of gear you want to change and you will be able to toggle between the different variants you have.

Hope this helps someone.

[WolfLink0370]

It is actually common knowledge - they even announced you can change to whatever tier you wanted. Clicking on the diamond method though is just for quick swapping... you can also just click the item image and select whichever tier you want to use.

Also the tier 1 glowstick is debatable as to how good it is now with the whole print charging mechanic - personally, I don't think the coverage it provides is worth the time it takes to get a print sufficiently charged... and while the tier 2 has a narrow angle it does charge a bit faster. Tier 3 UV though is honestly the best of both worlds and is the clear choice once you can use it.

[ForteDS]

I find the prints don't need to be charged as long as it's receiving direct light from the glowstick. Just drop it and take a picture, and it's still 3*

[Captain Oveur]

^ this. And you don’t need to charge it that long to begin with. Just long enough you can swap to your camera and right click.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by ForteDS:

I find the prints don't need to be charged as long as it's receiving direct light from the glowstick. Just drop it and take a picture, and it's still 3*

That's great for a single door or window, but if it has multiple, the Glowstick isn't going to cut it. There's quite a few windows that the Glowstick won't even reach on the floor either.

Plus the T3 UV can be placed down to cover large angles that the Glowstick can't reach.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

And you don’t need to charge it that long to begin with. Just long enough you can swap to your camera and right click.

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

Tier 2 meanwhile takes half as long at five seconds... and then tier 3 only takes like two and still gives a pretty wide angle of coverage.

(EDIT: All of the above should honestly be commonly known, as the print charge times are listed directly in-game on each of the UV tiers)

So yeah, tier 3 is undeniably best of the three options. giving good coverage AND charging speed... and like I said, it's debatable which of the other tiers is better prior to unlocking tier 3 UV - tier 2 is better for charging prints, tier 1 is better for area coverage.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

nd you don’t need to charge it that long to begin with. Just long enough you can swap to your camera and right click.

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

Tier 2 meanwhile takes half as long at five seconds... and then tier 3 only takes like two and still gives a pretty wide angle of coverage.

(EDIT: All of the above should honestly be commonly known, as the print charge times are listed directly in-game on each of the UV tiers)

So yeah, tier 3 is undeniably best of the three options. giving good coverage AND charging speed... and like I said, it's debatable which of the other tiers is better prior to unlocking tier 3 UV - tier 2 is better for charging prints, tier 1 is better for area coverage.

T3 only takes 1.5 seconds to charge. I really don't understand what people see in the Glowstick taking 10 seconds to charge and falling off within a couple seconds. It makes getting the picture a huge pain if it's anywhere but a door, low window or a cooler.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

Tier 2 meanwhile takes half as long at five seconds... and then tier 3 only takes like two and still gives a pretty wide angle of coverage.

(EDIT: All of the above should honestly be commonly known, as the print charge times are listed directly in-game on each of the UV tiers)

So yeah, tier 3 is undeniably best of the three options. giving good coverage AND charging speed... and like I said, it's debatable which of the other tiers is better prior to unlocking tier 3 UV - tier 2 is better for charging prints, tier 1 is better for area coverage.

T3 only takes 1.5 seconds to charge. I really don't understand what people see in the Glowstick taking 10 seconds to charge and falling off within a couple seconds. It makes getting the picture a huge pain if it's anywhere but a door, low window or a cooler.

I knew that about the Tier 3, but I just rounded up to the nearest whole number for the simplicity in typing out a numerical value.

[ForteDS]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

Tier 2 meanwhile takes half as long at five seconds... and then tier 3 only takes like two and still gives a pretty wide angle of coverage.

(EDIT: All of the above should honestly be commonly known, as the print charge times are listed directly in-game on each of the UV tiers)

So yeah, tier 3 is undeniably best of the three options. giving good coverage AND charging speed... and like I said, it's debatable which of the other tiers is better prior to unlocking tier 3 UV - tier 2 is better for charging prints, tier 1 is better for area coverage.

T3 only takes 1.5 seconds to charge. I really don't understand what people see in the Glowstick taking 10 seconds to charge and falling off within a couple seconds. It makes getting the picture a huge pain if it's anywhere but a door, low window or a cooler.

It doesn't matter what the charge time is for the glowstick. You just shake it, throw it, and the prints are visible regardless of how charged they actually are for a photo.

Plus, I find the glowstick great for footprints. They seem to disappear quickly after stepping in salt for me, so having a T2 UV risks them disappearing just as they charge while you fumble around to look for your camera. Meanwhile, with T1, I just drop the stick next to a salt pile, grab the camera, and I get two or three footprints at 3*s, which is great, because I got $500 for a weekly challenge in collecting those photos.

[Prowler™]

Glowstick is an S tier item. Its constant AoE effect is just better than the torches and thats a fact not a debate or opinion lol
Its non electronic property is also great in many situations where electronics will get you killed. For a starter item is easily one of the best in the game.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by ForteDS:

It doesn't matter what the charge time is for the glowstick. You just shake it, throw it, and the prints are visible regardless of how charged they actually are for a photo.

T3 UV covers such a large area that you don't need to fuss about with charging and throwing. Pictures are also buggy and prone to desync during the charging part. T3 UV takes such a small amount of time to charge that you don't need to worry about the Desync. Also makes it MUCH simplier when playing Solo or no-one is currently in the room with you.

Plus, I find the glowstick great for footprints. They seem to disappear quickly after stepping in salt for me, so having a T2 UV risks them disappearing just as they charge while you fumble around to look for your camera. Meanwhile, with T1, I just drop the stick next to a salt pile, grab the camera, and I get two or three footprints at 3*s, which is great, because I got $500 for a weekly challenge in collecting those photos.

Drop the T3 UV on the ground facing the piles of salt and it'll show the footprints from a much further range. As an added bonus, no fussing about with recharging the Glowstick when it decides to run out at the most inopportune moments. Like you said, Footsteps disappear pretty quick compared to Hand/Fingerprints.

Everything you've listed, the T3 can do or does better with proper placement.

Originally posted by Prowler™:

Glowstick is an S tier item. Its constant AoE effect is just better than the torches and thats a fact not a debate or opinion lol

The AoE effect really isn't all it's cooked up to be considering UV doesn't appear on different parts of the same door. The T3 has a wider range of vision and can be set up to cover far more then a single door or window that the Glowstick can do.

I still can't wrap my head around what people see it in for UV detection. It's objectively worse then the T3 everywhere except during a Hunt. T3 can be "set and forget" all the same as the Glowstick, so it really doesn't even have that going for it either.

[ForteDS]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by ForteDS:

It doesn't matter what the charge time is for the glowstick. You just shake it, throw it, and the prints are visible regardless of how charged they actually are for a photo.

T3 UV covers such a large area that you don't need to fuss about with charging and throwing. Pictures are also buggy and prone to desync during the charging part. T3 UV takes such a small amount of time to charge that you don't need to worry about the Desync. Also makes it MUCH simplier when playing Solo or no-one is currently in the room with you.

Plus, I find the glowstick great for footprints. They seem to disappear quickly after stepping in salt for me, so having a T2 UV risks them disappearing just as they charge while you fumble around to look for your camera. Meanwhile, with T1, I just drop the stick next to a salt pile, grab the camera, and I get two or three footprints at 3*s, which is great, because I got $500 for a weekly challenge in collecting those photos.

Drop the T3 UV on the ground facing the piles of salt and it'll show the footprints from a much further range. As an added bonus, no fussing about with recharging the Glowstick when it decides to run out at the most inopportune moments. Like you said, Footsteps disappear pretty quick compared to Hand/Fingerprints.

Everything you've listed, the T3 can do or does better with proper placement.

Originally posted by Prowler™:

Glowstick is an S tier item. Its constant AoE effect is just better than the torches and thats a fact not a debate or opinion lol

The AoE effect really isn't all it's cooked up to be considering UV doesn't appear on different parts of the same door. The T3 has a wider range of vision and can be set up to cover far more then a single door or window that the Glowstick can do.

I still can't wrap my head around what people see it in for UV detection. It's objectively worse then the T3 everywhere except during a Hunt. T3 can be "set and forget" all the same as the Glowstick, so it really doesn't even have that going for it either.

Yeah, I'm sure T3 is great. At Lv. 56 when you unlock it. I'm currently at no prestige and lv. 41. I got the option between a glowstick that works great for most practical purposes, and a disappointing T2 UV that I was so happy to discover I can "Downgrade" from. When I prestige in like... Three months from now, the T3 goes bye bye, and I'll still have old reliable. I'm sure the wide UV light will be an upgrade when I get it, but I don't know if it will be 55 levels worth of improvement over the starting glowstick.

[Captain Oveur]

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

And you don’t need to charge it that long to begin with. Just long enough you can swap to your camera and right click.

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

You literally do not need to fully charge it to get a photo. Four seconds is all it takes to charge it enough to take the photo, swap to your camera and actually take the photo. That whole process, four second. You might save just a second or a second and a half with other tiers.

[WolfLink0370]

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

tier 1 is like ten seconds of exposure before a print is charge... that's actually pretty long considering they only last a couple minutes max.

You literally do not need to fully charge it to get a photo. Four seconds is all it takes to charge it enough to take the photo, swap to your camera and actually take the photo. That whole process, four second. You might save just a second or a second and a half with other tiers.

You're right - you don't need it to be fully charged, especially if the print is still being exposed to the UV source.

But the point is that I'd rather give it a quick blast and be sure I get credit for it. Really, the only allure for the glowstick IMHO is how much area it covers, but at the same time I'm not keen on being required to be so close to whatever I'm trying to look at.

Regardless, this is getting slightly off the primary topic the OP was making regarding the ability to quick swap... for the third and final time... and as this thread has proven... it is debatable whether or not T1 UV is better than T2 - everyone will have their preference on the matter but as far as I'm personally concerned, BOTH are inferior to the T3

[ForteDS]

Originally posted by WolfLink0370:

Originally posted by Captain Oveur:

You literally do not need to fully charge it to get a photo. Four seconds is all it takes to charge it enough to take the photo, swap to your camera and actually take the photo. That whole process, four second. You might save just a second or a second and a half with other tiers.

You're right - you don't need it to be fully charged, especially if the print is still being exposed to the UV source.

But the point is that I'd rather give it a quick blast and be sure I get credit for it. Really, the only allure for the glowstick IMHO is how much area it covers, but at the same time I'm not keen on being required to be so close to whatever I'm trying to look at.

Regardless, this is getting slightly off the primary topic the OP was making regarding the ability to quick swap... for the third and final time... and as this thread has proven... it is debatable whether or not T1 UV is better than T2 - everyone will have their preference on the matter but as far as I'm personally concerned, BOTH are inferior to the T3

Well, as far as you are personally concerned, it's not a problem as long as you never prestige or play a challenge where you get less than T3 stuff. This was also a stealth "The shop is bad" topic. Apparently it's common knowledge that you can bring lower tier stuff to those who follow the dev posts, but if you are like me and got this game last October, the game doesn't do much to let you know the old stuff isn't lost.

It's also a statement to how bad T2 UV is that it's even a discussion if T1 is better. You know how bad T2 is? They give you a T2 UV in the lobby to find the symbols on the ground by the trophy room. They give you T2 because if you had T1 or T3, you could probably see mostly the whole of either one of the two parts. Yes, it charges twice as fast as T1, but who cares when T3 charges in the time it takes for you to get into position for a 3* camera shot, and T1's radius lets you just drop it on the ground and take a 3* photo regardless of how charged it actually is?

Didn't mean to turn this into a UV rant topic, but that and maybe T2 Thermo are the pieces of gear you might actually want this feature for.

[BrendyBear]

I wish you could bring different tiers at the same time. Some people prefer the T2 headlamp to the T3 goggles, or the T1 thermo to the T3. Although personally I'd like gear to be player locked (each player brings their own instead of usually 1 person filling the truck) and have a side-grade system instead of upgrades. Also lighters should be a permanent non-slot item, similar to headgear.

The T3 UV is better than the T1 glowstick at anything UV related. But the glowstick has some merit as a non electronic light source, making it a safe light during a hunt.