Phasmophobia

Phasmophobia

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Pope Innocent the 69th 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 3:21
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I absolutely hate the new leveling system
I used to play this game with a friend sometimes, but after they reset everything I've completely stopped playing. Now I'm forcing myself to play this game, because this girl I like believes in ghosts and I want to get her into this game. It's so bad I literally have to grit my teeth and make myself play just so I can get to mid-level items so I can finally enjoy the game again.

They forced us to grind with absolutely terrible low level tools and with a complete lack of some items (nothing for safety: no crucifix, no sanity pills, no smudge sticks, no candles, not even a fcking lighter??!!).

So not only do I have to find the ghost with absolutely TERRIBLE tools that are completely useless, but I have to do so while I have nothing to stop me from losing sanity or fend off hunts in any way.

Are they going to revert to the old ways any time soon or do something about this trash? At least players with legacy levels shouldn't have to start with nothing. Playing with the starter tools is so bad I don't even want to play. And fix the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ UI already, how many years does it take to make a half-decent UI system?!
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Estellese 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 4:46 
You are overreacting. Tier one gear isn't bad, it still gets all the same info as the other tiers. It's just mildly inconvenient.

As a new player who had to use their tier1 items for quite a while to unlock everything else. I not only went through the same thing you did, but I did it with absolutely zero knowledge and experience of the game. And it was easy.

Sure, now that I am slowly stepping into higher tier stuff, it is getting easier. Every time they have those "beat the game with only the starter items" I am sad at the loss of my good gear for the challenge.

But the tier1 gear isn't bad. It's just not good. It all still works just fine. (And frankly, I will never surrender my tier 1 glowstick) using tier 1 gear is just mildly inconvenient.

Playing without sanity pills and crucifixes also is not difficult at all. Just keep the lights on and stick to small maps. If you hate the grind you can easily make a custom difficulty that gives more money to make the grind faster.

I personally made one that gives 4.3x money. I think? Maybe 4.5x? Without actually making the game any harder. Power starts on. Ghost still gives 3 evidence. Only issue is that you must be quick about it to not get hunted, or be good at escaping hunts when the ghost has 150% speed. (I am still too new to judge a ghost off it's hunting behavior. So no camp trick for me.)
Panic 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 5:00 
Won't be the worst or stupidest thing you do to try and get a girl bro, trust me. May as well just treat it as an exercise in stamina
CITYDRIVER 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 5:13 
Bro go on youtube and enter "How to level up fast in phasmo" you will find a video of Psycho who shows you a no risk high rreward 1minute 2600$ way of leveling. You make around 5-10 Levels an hour depending on how good you execute the strategy and depending on some luck on which ghosts you get.
oldlamehand 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 5:26 
As a new player, I have to agree that the level-dependent equipment system is stupid, although I like the game otherwise. I think all tier 1 equipment should be available from the start. Something as simple as matches and a candle is level 12 equipment? I understand that developers want to somehow reward players for playing the game and leveling up, but this approach is simply ridiculous.

An approach that would make sense:
1) Only expensive high-tech equipment is unlocked with levels. Basic equipment is available from the start.
2) The player directly gets some bonuses. For example, more resistance to sanity drop from being in the dark and having ghost events. Simply a beginner will pee his pants as soon as they see the first painting fall from the wallt, an experienced investigator who has successfully completed dozens of contracts will withstand more.
Zothen 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 5:42 
Which alternative would you recommend? I liked Phasmo, but playing with useless garbage equipment is not fun.
Ghost Exile (closest to "Phasmo+")
Forwarned
Ghost Watchers
This is a Ghost
Ghost Excorcism Inc
(Demonologist is just a very light-weight Phasmo with extra lipstick on)
最後修改者:Zothen; 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 5:44
Sh'Dynasty 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 6:36 
How about instead of complaining, you get better at the game and impress your friend.

Here's some videos to help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIX0jeuxHhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoxxtIhVWIM

Also, turn on the breaker first, stay in the light. Good luck
Kai 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 6:51 
What do you mean by fixing lvls?

I understand that they felt the need to add an extra tier above the basic items they started with, but slapping a semi-experienced player in the face with such a massive power nerf is just de-motivating. At the very least I should have access to each TYPE of item, so lowest level candles, flame sources, crucifix, pills, etc.

I'm literally sat here with max modifiers, re-starting the game over and over, waiting to get lucky with Spirit. If I tried to actually play the game I'd just get randomly killed by Demons and Thayes while I'm fking around with dysfunctional gear. Dots and spirit box just straight up don't work.

Which alternative would you recommend? I liked Phasmo, but playing with useless garbage equipment is not fun.
Ghost Exorcism Inc is good but it's very buggy and multiplayer is a hassle to setup, it's also more of a aggressive style of gameplay and not a slow paced haunt, like Ghost Busters.

Ghost Exile is probably the most indepth one where instead of changing the game rules and stuff all the time, it's on the basis of new 'expansions' that you can enable when you wanna make lobbies and stuff. Like you want harder challenges then new 'modules' to alter how the game works is there, built into it.

But Ghost Exiles is also technically 'harder' to play than Phasmophobia.
最後修改者:Kai; 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 6:53
MekaDovah 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 7:25 
引用自 Mors
To add onto what some people said previously, the game is now much more about the actual investigation. Practically all ghosts except for a few can be determined by small details and behavior which really isn't that hard to memorize. Some of them are so easy to detect that you don't really use most of your stuff.
However, I will agree with the OP here on a topic of the length it takes to unlock the first handful of things. Before I figured out how the ghosts work nowdays (after a year long break) the first 15 levels were absolutely unfun. I blame it on myself tho

So either you need to grind to get better gear or you know the ghosts well enough to not need much gear to begin with. In short, either it's an obnoxious grind, or completely pointless.

Well, I always said a game like this never needed "progression." It's about investigation, not filling xp meters.
Decurio Cthulhus [ESP] 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 8:48 
so, you are bad at playing, and u complain bc u want something easy

If u want to grind, there is a way x10 exp (like 3000 exp in 2 mins), u can get level pretty fast, but u need to know how to play the game, no evidences, no sanity, no possesion, just enter, guess the ghost (or not) in a hunt, do a objetive if u can, and gg

To be clear, play since i had like 100 hours in nightmare could help to play better, but i found it more enjoyable

Tier 1 items, yes, and? There is some tier 1 items better than tier 2/3 sometimes, and i have no problem with make the game harder. To be clear, tier 3 items will not give u the victory anyway if u dont know how to play, and in profesional or lower u can win easy with tier 1 items
最後修改者:Decurio Cthulhus [ESP]; 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 8:50
Pope Innocent the 69th 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 8:56 
引用自 skeleton
Gonna be completely honest, this is just sad. The ghost's room is now literally a freebie. You find out where you get cold breath, you put the rest of the equipment in that room, you've got your ghost. But you're going to spend time making a macro to grind your way "back" to a place in progression you perceived yourself to be? Just sad.
Wtf is sad about it? The whole game is about you using the tools to find evidence about the ghost and figure stuff out, I'm not a streamer who has 2000 hours in the game, I want to play it as it's actually intended to be played, but doing so is a complete drag without the basic equipment that I used to have. Now it's all nerfed stuff and I can't even pop a sanity pill or place down a crucifix.

That's not a "place of progression" or "back" that is how it should have been and how it should have remained. They did not make the game better by gimping my ability to actually do ghost investigation stuff until I actually grind xy hours to make the game playable, and to rely on some gimmicky x12.7 grind (and the fact that this is apparently widespread) is what is really sad.
Pope Innocent the 69th 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 8:59 
so, you are bad at playing, and u complain bc u want something easy

If u want to grind, there is a way x10 exp (like 3000 exp in 2 mins), u can get level pretty fast, but u need to know how to play the game, no evidences, no sanity, no possesion, just enter, guess the ghost (or not) in a hunt, do a objetive if u can, and gg

To be clear, play since i had like 100 hours in nightmare could help to play better, but i found it more enjoyable

Tier 1 items, yes, and? There is some tier 1 items better than tier 2/3 sometimes, and i have no problem with make the game harder. To be clear, tier 3 items will not give u the victory anyway if u dont know how to play, and in profesional or lower u can win easy with tier 1 items

Ah yes, I was waiting for the 'skill issue' comments. Thank you.
Which part of 'it's not fun' did you not understand? Being completely impotent and not being able to do anything is not fun at all. You're basically telling me to play no evidence streamer strats, guess what, I don't watch streamers because it's not fun to watch others play games, I want to play them myself, but this ♥♥♥♥ is unplayable.
Cool Cereal 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:00 
引用自 skeleton
Gonna be completely honest, this is just sad. The ghost's room is now literally a freebie. You find out where you get cold breath, you put the rest of the equipment in that room, you've got your ghost. But you're going to spend time making a macro to grind your way "back" to a place in progression you perceived yourself to be? Just sad.
Wtf is sad about it? The whole game is about you using the tools to find evidence about the ghost and figure stuff out, I'm not a streamer who has 2000 hours in the game, I want to play it as it's actually intended to be played, but doing so is a complete drag without the basic equipment that I used to have. Now it's all nerfed stuff and I can't even pop a sanity pill or place down a crucifix.

That's not a "place of progression" or "back" that is how it should have been and how it should have remained. They did not make the game better by gimping my ability to actually do ghost investigation stuff until I actually grind xy hours to make the game playable, and to rely on some gimmicky x12.7 grind (and the fact that this is apparently widespread) is what is really sad.
You don’t need to even grind 13x cheese strats for days to get all the equipment unlocked. You spend so much time here complaining instead of investing the time to unlock all the stuff and crutches you so dearly miss. It takes 5 hours of normal gameplay TOPS to start unlocking T2 items. Saying that only streamers with 2000 hours enjoy and have enough time to progress is absolutely silly.
最後修改者:Cool Cereal; 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:01
Pope Innocent the 69th 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:01 
引用自 Sh'Dynasty
How about instead of complaining, you get better at the game and impress your friend.

Here's some videos to help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIX0jeuxHhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoxxtIhVWIM

Also, turn on the breaker first, stay in the light. Good luck

You seriously think I'm that clueless? Like I said, I used to play this game before the update. Now I don't want to play it, because the basic tools are trash and aren't fun to play with. I KNOW how they work, but using them is a drag, a chore and a grind and it isn't enjoyable. Are you going to tell me that I should start enjoying them? Bcus that's not happening.
Pope Innocent the 69th 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:02 
引用自 Cool Cereal
Wtf is sad about it? The whole game is about you using the tools to find evidence about the ghost and figure stuff out, I'm not a streamer who has 2000 hours in the game, I want to play it as it's actually intended to be played, but doing so is a complete drag without the basic equipment that I used to have. Now it's all nerfed stuff and I can't even pop a sanity pill or place down a crucifix.

That's not a "place of progression" or "back" that is how it should have been and how it should have remained. They did not make the game better by gimping my ability to actually do ghost investigation stuff until I actually grind xy hours to make the game playable, and to rely on some gimmicky x12.7 grind (and the fact that this is apparently widespread) is what is really sad.
You don’t need to even grind 13x cheese strats for days to get all the equipment unlocked. You spend so much time here complaining instead of investing the time to unlock all the stuff and crutches you so dearly miss. It takes 5 hours of normal gameplay TOPS to start unlocking T2 items.

CRUTCHES?! bro wtf, you guys need to get out of your streamer/discord bubbles where everyone knows everything, there are actual people out here who actually want to play the game as it's intended, but go on, do gatekeep, I'm sure this game is headed towards great things.
Cool Cereal 2023 年 11 月 13 日 上午 9:09 
引用自 Cool Cereal
You don’t need to even grind 13x cheese strats for days to get all the equipment unlocked. You spend so much time here complaining instead of investing the time to unlock all the stuff and crutches you so dearly miss. It takes 5 hours of normal gameplay TOPS to start unlocking T2 items.

CRUTCHES?! bro wtf, you guys need to get out of your streamer/discord bubbles where everyone knows everything, there are actual people out here who actually want to play the game as it's intended, but go on, do gatekeep, I'm sure this game is headed towards great things.
Wasn’t trying to gatekeep with “crutches”, sorry. I really should’ve said “security blankets” because the T1 stuff still works perfectly fine and meds, smudges, and crucifixes come so early on it’s laughable. I play casually with friends (how it’s meant to be played according to you) and I still have a blast with any tier of item. They all work and lead to successful hunts.

It is heading towards great things! Yet you’ll still be here complaining about a large update to a game in early access. An update from 3 months ago…
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