cheat engine question

[TTVChosenRodent]

i noticed my game wasnt launching at all. i couldnt find help anywhere. then i had a hunch. i closed cheat engine, and suddenly the game works fine.

To ban cheat engine for this particular game, in such a way that it just prevents your game from launching and gives you no further information, is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. At the VERY least, give me a little message telling me that cheat engine is the problem, so that i can shrug my shoulders and go on about playing the game. I can't help but feel like it's set up to punish people who try to use cheat engine, which i don't even think can be used maliciously...

in previous versions, i was able to hack my money with very little effort with cheat engine. i only used it to give me and my friends any tools we needed when we played (which is all you can do anyway). Sure, i was not getting the intended experience, but should y'all really be trying to control how i enjoy my copy of the game???

[Towering Goblin]

Fishing for clowns for Halloween huh

[Jimmy Hunter]

Another one that accepted without reading.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Cryborg:

i was using cheat engine and Wemod and my game never closed, i log on steam next day to see gameban dev also ban me from everything including discord so, they prevent communication except through steam forum they keep taking down my posts so what are they so scared about??? why ban me off everything almost like they have something to hide

You literally have to use bypass injectors, which must literally be downloaded separately, to get the game to launch with either CE -OR- WeMod open. The game literally won't open without using a bypass, as the OP has described(For WeMod it'll open, tell you not to use WeMod, then close itself). You fell into that pit on your own.

To the OP, Yes, CE can ABSOLUTELY be used maliciously, and has been used maliciously for most of the game's life span; The devs are cracking down on it.

[JarJar]

yes!!! they give no information about cheat engine or Wemod being unauthorized for this game, my game never closed like it was supposed to while i was using cheat engine i log in steam the next day to find gameban, they also ban me from everything including discord and keep taking down my posts in steam forum, its almost like these incompetent developers have something to hide since they keep taking down my posts

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Cryborg:

yes!!! they give no information about cheat engine or Wemod being unauthorized for this game, my game never closed like it was supposed to while i was using cheat engine i log in steam the next day to find gameban, they also ban me from everything including discord and keep taking down my posts in steam forum, its almost like these incompetent developers have something to hide since they keep taking down my posts :cryptothink:

It's almost like you broke the EULA, shamelessly might I add, and insist on stirring drama because you're upset that you got yourself banned by cheating in a multiplayer game. General rule of thumb: Don't cheat, You wont get banned. Funny how that works.

No dev should have to go out of their way to tell you not to cheat in their game when cheating, especially in MP games, is HEAVILY frowned upon in every game under the sun.

[TTVChosenRodent]

Originally posted by Cryborg:

yes!!! they give no information about cheat engine or Wemod being unauthorized for this game, my game never closed like it was supposed to while i was using cheat engine i log in steam the next day to find gameban, they also ban me from everything including discord and keep taking down my posts in steam forum, its almost like these incompetent developers have something to hide since they keep taking down my posts :cryptothink:

So people are being perma-banned just for CE being detected?

I feel like devs should have thought this through a long time ago. CE being a problem in online gameplay is understandable. But adding things like this last-minute to try to fix your mistakes is not.

[TTVChosenRodent]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Cryborg:

yes!!! they give no information about cheat engine or Wemod being unauthorized for this game, my game never closed like it was supposed to while i was using cheat engine i log in steam the next day to find gameban, they also ban me from everything including discord and keep taking down my posts in steam forum, its almost like these incompetent developers have something to hide since they keep taking down my posts :cryptothink:

It's almost like you broke the EULA, shamelessly might I add, and insist on stirring drama because you're upset that you got yourself banned by cheating in a multiplayer game. General rule of thumb: Don't cheat, You wont get banned. Funny how that works.

No dev should have to go out of their way to tell you not to cheat in their game when cheating, especially in MP games, is HEAVILY frowned upon in every game under the sun.

7/10, too much sass. And you think anybody reads EULAs?

[TTVChosenRodent]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Another one that accepted without reading.

people tend to have lots of steam games. you expect them to read each EULA?

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Tyguy144:

Originally posted by Cryborg:

yes!!! they give no information about cheat engine or Wemod being unauthorized for this game, my game never closed like it was supposed to while i was using cheat engine i log in steam the next day to find gameban, they also ban me from everything including discord and keep taking down my posts in steam forum, its almost like these incompetent developers have something to hide since they keep taking down my posts :cryptothink:

So people are being perma-banned just for CE being detected?

I feel like devs should have thought this through a long time ago. CE being a problem in online gameplay is understandable. But adding things like this last-minute to try to fix your mistakes is not.

You literally ran into what happens when you have CE open. It being detected isn't a problem; The game just wont launch, or in the case of WeMod specifically, will launch, tell you not to use WeMod for this game, and close itself.

You won't get banned just for having either open when attempting to launch the game- Only if you use some extra method to bypass that protection and cheat anyway; For WeMod, that bypass is an extra download that you have to do.

Whether he wants to admit to it or not, Cryborg used a bypass to get past that restriction, and got himself banned for it. And iirc, though he's now claiming he got banned for CE, his original post complaining about being banned he said he was using WeMod. I'd cite it, but it got deleted.

Originally posted by Tyguy144:

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Another one that accepted without reading.

people tend to have lots of steam games. you expect them to read each EULA?

I expect people to have a basic understanding of expectations after reading just one; Since for the most part, many companies nowadays use boilerplate EULA templates with minimal modification.

Point of fact is, If you've played one multiplayer game, and read one warning not to cheat, There is no reasonable reason why you would think you can cheat in the second one, or the third one- Cheating in general is frowned upon, and even more so for MP capable games. The fact that 95+% of MP games ship with an Anti-Cheat itself should be an indicator to you that cheating will get you penalized sooner or later.

It's like the basic expectation to wear clothes in public. You think everyone reads the bazillion laws? No. It's just a social norm that you come to expect. (Edit to add: And, for the record, Ignorance of the law is generally not protection from the law- Just because 'you didn't know' doesn't mean you just get to do the thing with impunity. What is illegal is illegal; What is against the EULA is against the EULA, and it is, generally speaking, your responsibility to read the terms of anything you agree to. "I cant be fussed to read that" isnt an excuse.)

You dont cheat in games unless you're willing to risk getting banned/punished for it, End of, And there's ZERO reason to expect otherwise.

Originally posted by Tyguy144:

7/10, too much sass. And you think anybody reads EULAs?

Just enough sass, Maybe even not enough- the guys been crying on the forums on and off for a month or so now about how he got himself banned.

[Silas]

Y'all crack me up. Tyguy, just play the game. Do not complain about getting a ban or punishement when doing some shady ♥♥♥♥. EULA's exist for a reason, you don't read it, not the Developers fault.