Shade doesn't act like a shade anymore

[Omalley]

I've now had 5 shades just non stop on murder sprees and just always showing up in front of groups of people throwing things 24/7

[Tracker]

Got killed by one earlier because it started hunting one room over from the ghost room. It threw everyone off because we were in the ghost room and it wasn't acting like a shade at all prior to the hunt.

[Watcher Rat]

That's the trick with shades...the second they set one foot outside a room with people in it, murder is back on the table. Gotta be wary if you don't know what you're dealing with!

[Maya-Neko]

You need to be a littlebit more precise with what happens. Shades can still hunt, do events and throw stuff depending on how the situation is. Sounds more like a misunderstanding of the abilities than a bug right now.

[MemeDaddy]

Had this happen with all of my shades too. One even acted like a deo. They've been weird

[Sagitario1817]

True when we play it says shy ghost and hunts like on demon level

[Han Daimond]

Just got a shade that definitely did not behave like one, it was throwing tons of objects like twins or polter at high sanity levels, it summoned ghost orb, was following around like a phantom and even got the red light event.

Was playing on Edgefield, custom difficulty. (x3.70)

[Mandemon]

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

Just got a shade that definitely did not behave like one, it was throwing tons of objects like twins or polter at high sanity levels, it summoned ghost orb, was following around like a phantom and even got the red light event.

Was playing on Edgefield, custom difficulty. (x3.70)

Ghost Orb? Then it was not a Shade, because Shades don't have Ghost Orb.

[Han Daimond]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

Just got a shade that definitely did not behave like one, it was throwing tons of objects like twins or polter at high sanity levels, it summoned ghost orb, was following around like a phantom and even got the red light event.

Was playing on Edgefield, custom difficulty. (x3.70)

Ghost Orb? Then it was not a Shade, because Shades don't have Ghost Orb.

The orb event, not the evidence.

[Watcher Rat]

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Ghost Orb? Then it was not a Shade, because Shades don't have Ghost Orb.

The orb event, not the evidence.

Most of us call it the "airball" to avoid that confusion ;) But some notes:

-EVERY ghost can Airball EXCEPT for the Oni, so that is not a good indicator of ghost.
-Every ghost can red light, it's just one of the many ghost events that can happen at any given time, and unlike airball does not exclude any ghosts from the list.
-When the journal says it's "shy", that only applies when you are in the same spot as the ghost. The second the ghost sets foot outside the same designated room as you, it is no longer bound by those rules...for instance, the Tanglewood kitchen and dining room are two rooms, as is the hall directly adjacent. If you're not specifically standing in the room where the invisible ghost model is currently standing, it has no limitations on what it will do.

Shades are a little harder to pin down if you're solo, since there's no way to know where they are, but with 4 people they can be pretty easy to suppress, you just spread out between the ghost's room, and several of the closest areas, and it will never hunt. Of course, that also makes it harder to get its evidence, so you're making things a bit harder in a different way. ;)

[Tracker]

Originally posted by Watcher Rat:

That's the trick with shades...the second they set one foot outside a room with people in it, murder is back on the table. Gotta be wary if you don't know what you're dealing with!

It wasn't acting like a shade in the ghost room. And it hunted really early. We had just brought in a second load of gear after finding the ghost room at Grafton when it started hunting. We swore it was a demon with how early the hunt was.

[Mandemon]

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

The orb event, not the evidence.

That's not an evidence tho? Like, any ghost (except Oni) can do ghost ball event. Just like any ghost can do red room.

Hell, Shade can even be as aggressive as Demon once the sanity gets low enough, only thing that it is hard coded for is to have reduced action (and blocked hunt) when in room with an investigator.

Originally posted by Tracker:

It wasn't acting like a shade in the ghost room. And it hunted really early. We had just brought in a second load of gear after finding the ghost room at Grafton when it started hunting. We swore it was a demon with how early the hunt was.

Sounds like someone was messing with cursed object, or you wasted all your sanity while wandering in the dark.

[Watcher Rat]

Originally posted by Tracker:

Originally posted by Watcher Rat:

That's the trick with shades...the second they set one foot outside a room with people in it, murder is back on the table. Gotta be wary if you don't know what you're dealing with!

It wasn't acting like a shade in the ghost room. And it hunted really early. We had just brought in a second load of gear after finding the ghost room at Grafton when it started hunting. We swore it was a demon with how early the hunt was.

So my question would be this: What was the sanity of the people in the house? Not the average sanity of the whole team, but just the levels of the people inside.

Edit: I'd also ask what difficulty you were on, and what cursed items were used. How many people were inside vs outside as well.

[Omalley]

Man I just had an Onryo walk through walls and kill me and my whole team. I freaking SCREAMED when it came up behind me through a wall and a bathtub

[Kou]

Shades become more active the lower your sanity is and they can ONLY hunt if the average sanity is 35% or below (unless someone uses a cursed object). On professional, you really should be done with the mission before sanity is that low lol

[Han Daimond]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Originally posted by Han Daimond:

The orb event, not the evidence.

That's not an evidence tho? Like, any ghost (except Oni) can do ghost ball event. Just like any ghost can do red room.

I NEVER said it was evidence tho?
I was just summarizing all the things the shade did in a single game in Edgefield, it was very active at high sanity levels.