WTF Is With The Evidence?

[Jararaca]

Either I'm just an idiot, or some of the evidence is bugged af. I got freezing temps and emf 5 and assumed it was an Oni because I didn't get ultraviolet so it wasn't a Jinn and when I end the game it's a f*cking Goryo??? I got freezing temps dude, and yes I did look at the thermometer and it was right at 0 degrees Celcius which is considered freezing temps. Either there's something my dumb*ss is missing or this game has some serious bugs that need fixed as soon as possible.

[Zothen]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Zothen:

And this post makes you a better person... how???

I am telling you two things:

Read the patch notes
Learn how stuff works before.

I see people not reading it ccorrectly and STILL using cold breath as a way to determine freezing. Stop doing this.

I see people not reading emf reader correctly too. Its not EMF 5 because it touches EMF 5. For EMF5 to appear, it has to go into the solid red bar past EMF 5.

You havent answered my question. How makes your gloating you a better person?

[Kai]

Tier 1 thermometer is there so you can get temps as low as 5C, 1C, or below 0C.

Meaning you see breath but it's not freezing.

Cold Breath is now for tracking said ghost room or the ghost itself.

[Rae]

Most of you are not only wrong but incredibly arrogant. I got burnt out playing the game so much after getting over level 300 and getting the ghost right over 95 percent of the time on pro. I've had the game since it first came out. I knew how all the mechanics worked intimately. Not only are you guys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on people who might have only had a few hours into the game previously before the dumb update but not everyone reads patch notes EVERY time their games get updated, do you??

Not only that I made sure myself and my friends played the new training mode so I would know exactly how they want players to use the new items. It did NOT help. Freezing breath is felt on every map and not just in one room. I have double checked to confirm freezing temps with the thermometer with another friend, we both saw it go below zero, it wasn't a freezing ghost. I even know that on pro you need to turn on the breaker so it warms up the house before you can get accurate readings otherwise when it's snowing out (which most of our maps seemed to be) you will get cold temps everywhere and breath.

Never had dots work, the voice recorder seems bugged, I had a friend get evp, I even heard it next to him some jumbled streamers voice. I went in to try it myself and never got a response but the white light on the ghost bulb did flash white, it wasn't an evp ghost. There is no reason I should have had that much success before the update and now coming back in the span of 3 hours, we only got one session correct. It's not even the low tier items, that doesn't bother me at all, it's the fact the evidence seems bugged as hell.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Zothen:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

I am telling you two things:

Read the patch notes
Learn how stuff works before.

I see people not reading it ccorrectly and STILL using cold breath as a way to determine freezing. Stop doing this.

I see people not reading emf reader correctly too. Its not EMF 5 because it touches EMF 5. For EMF5 to appear, it has to go into the solid red bar past EMF 5.

You havent answered my question. How makes your gloating you a better person?

If you dont wanna stick to the topic by all means but I am not gloating because I say OP is salty AF if theyr not able to read the patch notes.

[Maya-Neko]

Originally posted by Walter White:

You did indeed do the freezing wrong on your part but the evidence is actually broken - see this clip: i cleary got salt which now counts as "ultraviolet" but it turned out to be an onryo??? (which has no ultraviolet)

clip: https://gyazo.com/5f248c078905bdc873d35b471e705c84

It's like the doors, just because every ghost can touch it doesn't mean, that every ghost leaves fingerprints on it. And on that clip you've only showed the salt pile, but not the actual UV evidence.

Originally posted by Rae:

Most of you are not only wrong but incredibly arrogant. I got burnt out playing the game so much after getting over level 300 and getting the ghost right over 95 percent of the time on pro. I've had the game since it first came out. I knew how all the mechanics worked intimately. Not only are you guys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on people who might have only had a few hours into the game previously before the dumb update but not everyone reads patch notes EVERY time their games get updated, do you??

There's a different for being new and asking a question why you've got something wrong compared to blame the dev for bugs which doesn't exist.

Obviously if someone is so blatantly wrong and aggressive, then they will get an equally strong reaction to it. Ask things nice and people will probably even write a whole book for how to master said problem.

Originally posted by Rae:

Not only that I made sure myself and my friends played the new training mode so I would know exactly how they want players to use the new items. It did NOT help. Freezing breath is felt on every map and not just in one room. I have double checked to confirm freezing temps with the thermometer with another friend, we both saw it go below zero, it wasn't a freezing ghost. I even know that on pro you need to turn on the breaker so it warms up the house before you can get accurate readings otherwise when it's snowing out (which most of our maps seemed to be) you will get cold temps everywhere and breath.

If you've played the training, then you should know, that it never said, the breath is an evidence, so just delete that from your mind and rather take it as a way to tell the ghost room.

Also switching on the breaker only helps with verifying the ghost room easier (especially in snowy weather, where you would get freezing everywhere), but it is by no means necessary to get accurate readings. The thermometer will always go towards the current temperature of the room, no matter what.

And as said: breath is not an evidence. You get it at 4°C and lower, while the ghost will cool down it's room to 1°C for any ghost or to -10°C for any freezing ghost. If it get stuck near 0°C (or even on top of it if you're unable to tell that small difference apart), then it is most likeley not freezing. Rather wait for something like -5°C, which will eventually happen anyway, while you're searching for other stuff.

[🅴🆅🅸🅻]

It's nearly all of it. We have been figuring out the ghost up front from traits then gathering evidence the ghost will say be a Deogen so you know already 100% you have the ghost because the movement but then the evidence will point at random ghosts. It's actually funny

EMP will ping 5 but not actually be meaning to.
Spirit box just plain doesn't work for most people although we can hear them in game fine.
Don't even get me started on that crappy temps ***** they brought in this patch.

Dots seems to work fine yayyyyy

Oh and the best one the cursed objectives just mess up half the time now.

[Mandemon]

Originally posted by Evil:

EMP will ping 5 but not actually be meaning to.

Tier 1 EMP reader is not accurate, it even says so in the item description. The needle will move back and forth, you need to keep looking at it to see where it settles. Just seeing it ping 5 is not enough, you need to see if it stays at 5, instead of dropping to 4.

Originally posted by Evil:

Spirit box just plain doesn't work for most people although we can hear them in game fine.

Does the box actually light up, so it shows that game did hear the player, but there was no response? Red means no response, white means response even if you can't hear it. Also, far too many people forget that they should be in the room, lights off, alone. Not with everyone around them doing whatever, some ghost are shy and refuse to answer to groups.

Originally posted by Evil:

Don't even get me started on that crappy temps ***** they brought in this patch.

Temps are working just fine. Issue is that people do not understand that "Breathe does not mean freezing" and "It needs to actually go below 0, not at 0"

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Mandemon:

Temps are working just fine. Issue is that people do not understand that "Breathe does not mean freezing" and "It needs to actually go below 0, not at 0"

And that's really all there is to it.

I played a couple hours with the new patch and had zero issues. I initially fell for the breathe = freezing too, but learned my lesson right away instead of arrogantly insulting the devs and blaming the game for me being too dumb to read a thermometer.

People these days...

[Mandemon]

Yup. The Tier 1 thermo is inaccurate, so it can show 0 degrees even when not freezing. That is why you always double check the actual temperature. You know, like the tutorial tells you. It needs to actually go below 0, and freezing ghosts can bring it as low as -10, most often -5

[Jararaca]

Originally posted by Yasmin:

The red line needs to be -below- 0, because when it stops it's actually at 1 degree, not zero

Noted thanks for the heads up.

[Jararaca]

Originally posted by Ramen Llama:

read patch notes

I already read the patch notes. They say that the thermometer has to be at 0°C or below and that's what it looked like

[Baron]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

It is astonishing how many people struggle to read a simple, analog thermometer and are yet so confident in blaming the game for it...

Are we doing "the millenials can't even write cursive" in this thread now? SMH

There's a big difference between 0C, which is freezing, and 0.1C, which is not. I'm with OP on this one - it would be very nice if the devs tweaked the T1 thermo so it always displays either clearly above or clearly below. Luckily, the ambiguity is only a problem in 25% of games or so - most of the time it's comfortably and legibly above 1C with a non-freezing ghost present.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Baron:

Originally posted by Sunshine:

It is astonishing how many people struggle to read a simple, analog thermometer and are yet so confident in blaming the game for it...

Are we doing "the millenials can't even write cursive" in this thread now? SMH

There's a big difference between 0C, which is freezing, and 0.1C, which is not. I'm with OP on this one - it would be very nice if the devs tweaked the T1 thermo so it always displays either clearly above or clearly below. Luckily, the ambiguity is only a problem in 25% of games or so - most of the time it's comfortably and legibly above 1C with a non-freezing ghost present.

So why can I see if it is just above 0°C and you can't?

[Dizzeke]

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Originally posted by Baron:

Are we doing "the millenials can't even write cursive" in this thread now? SMH

There's a big difference between 0C, which is freezing, and 0.1C, which is not. I'm with OP on this one - it would be very nice if the devs tweaked the T1 thermo so it always displays either clearly above or clearly below. Luckily, the ambiguity is only a problem in 25% of games or so - most of the time it's comfortably and legibly above 1C with a non-freezing ghost present.

So why can I see if it is just above 0°C and you can't?

because you're talking to the bottom 50% of humans in the double digit IQ range

[Rae]

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

If you've played the training, then you should know, that it never said, the breath is an evidence, so just delete that from your mind and rather take it as a way to tell the ghost room.

Also switching on the breaker only helps with verifying the ghost room easier (especially in snowy weather, where you would get freezing everywhere), but it is by no means necessary to get accurate readings. The thermometer will always go towards the current temperature of the room, no matter what.

And as said: breath is not an evidence. You get it at 4°C and lower, while the ghost will cool down it's room to 1°C for any ghost or to -10°C for any freezing ghost. If it get stuck near 0°C (or even on top of it if you're unable to tell that small difference apart), then it is most likeley not freezing. Rather wait for something like -5°C, which will eventually happen anyway, while you're searching for other stuff.

I already realized quickly that breath was either bugged or didn't function to indicate freezing anymore. Why 90 percent of our matches get snowy weather now I don't know. It's a perfect storm of making sure people are confused.

I JUST had a match where I turned on the breaker, we went around measuring temps. Yes you don't need the breaker on, but to make sure we are as accurate as possible with evidence, we pinpointed the drop on Edgefield in the laundry room, very very clearly below 0 and double confirmed, it was well above 0 everywhere else, we double checked that it raised everywhere else outside the laundry room and dropped in the room. I got spirit box very clearly. There was zero UV with salt and various door touching, there was no ghost writing despite several books, there was evident orbs. It very quickly burned up the crucifixs. Between all three pieces of evidence there was no other option than Onryo, but guess what it was? Mare. It didn't act like a mare at all and I absolutely cannot understand how the thermometer or temps work now if breath is no longer an indicator fine, but I'm 31 years old my mother and grandmother were nurses. I know how an old thermometer works. I'm American but I know how to read Celsius and used it primarily before the update. The temps or the evidence is bugged, I have zero doubt about it.