Suspicion on Thayé pronunciation (any Burmese native speakers please advise)

[thrythlind]

So, I have some experience with Korean (never got really good at it) and Japanese (not fluent, but at my best was able to maintain simple conversations at slow pace for 30 minutes) and I have some suspicions on the pronunciation. (oh, also, I taught English as a foreign language for a total of 10 years - 3 in Korea, 7 in Japan. I ran out of many after getting my bachelor's but this is my line of study and profession.)

First, it is a word that is from a language that has its own alphabet unlike English. As such, we should assume that there are no silent letters. Mostly, silent letters occur for one of two reasons: after sounds are lost over hundreds of years. For example, the "k" and "gh" in "knight" used to have attached sounds... as the sounds were lost from this word, the spelling remained the same and thus, silent letters.

The second reason silent letters happen is due to the fact that English has 13 vowels but only has 5 letters to represent them, so someone in the past when they set spelling rules coded certain combinations of letters to represent one of the 13 actual vowels in the language.

However. This is a Romanization and I sincerely doubt the English spelling has existed longer than 200 years, probably less than 100. Now, there are some sounds being lost due to lay-people trying to apply English spelling rules to the Romanization, but that's not a proper pronunciation really. If the word hangs around long enough to become an English word the way things like "jungle" have then I'll start to accept cross-cultural mutation as a proper pronunciation, but I suspect that would come with a shift in meaning as well.

Now, if there is a "long vowel" sound, the spelling could have had a silent letter to serve as the code of the for that long vowel sound. However, when I looked it up the word was written with an accent mark over "e": thayé. This means that the "é" is pronounced. I'm very rusty on accent marks so I'm not sure what that sound is, but my suspicion is "yay".

That said, "th" is probably also representative of a single sound (which, to be honest it is in English too, since we no longer have the thorn letter in our language or the other letter that would mark the other sound most often associated with "th"). So I suspect that first part is something like the sound at the beginning of "thai" or "the". Which makes me think it's "tha" or close-ish to "ta."

So... I suspect the pronunciation is something close to "ta - yay"

[Gake]

I kind of wish there was an official "this is how you pronounce it" thing. Like, if the journal got "Thaye, pronounced tah-yay," I'd strongly prefer that.

[thrythlind]

引用自 Gake：

I kind of wish there was an official "this is how you pronounce it" thing. Like, if the journal got "Thaye, pronounced tah-yay," I'd strongly prefer that.

Judging by what Insym has said of his conversations with the devs, I suspect they're also applying English spelling rules and assuming it's a one-syllable word like "they".

[thrythlind]

Incidentally, I don't think Burmese has any relation to Korean or Japanese, but I mentioned those to show I've had experience with the way words from non-Roman alphabets have been Romanized in the past.

[thrythlind]

引用自 Download：

引用自 thrythlind：

Judging by what Insym has said of his conversations with the devs, I suspect they're also applying English spelling rules and assuming it's a one-syllable word like "they".

Well, if Insym says its like 'they' it must be correct! Pronunciation confirmed, no need to think for yourselves people ;)

I was basically pointing out that Insym and the Devs are making typical English speaker assumptions, I was not suggesting they were final word. Insym actually gets frustrated with this name.

In fact, this entire post came after seeing those videos, so... no, I'm not just accepting that pronunciation.

[Maya-Neko]

The wiki says it's pronounced like this:

IPA: /θəjɛ́/, pronounced "thuh-yeh"

so i would most likely go with that, if i really wanted to be precise about native names. But overall i would say that it's ok to use the translated name, since that makes it way easier to properly communicate with others and especially in random lobbies.

[Neferion]

Why not pronounce it like "Touch iiii" when it opens doors a lot e. G. - just joking

I would go with "Thuh-yeh" too

[thrythlind]

引用自 Maya-Neko：

The wiki says it's pronounced like this:

IPA: /θəjɛ́/, pronounced "thuh-yeh"

so i would most likely go with that, if i really wanted to be precise about native names. But overall i would say that it's ok to use the translated name, since that makes it way easier to properly communicate with others and especially in random lobbies.

Huh, I couldn't find pronunciation guide on the wiki hence my guess above... that's pretty close to my guess though.

And I'd go with "thuh-yeh" in order to avoid confusion with "they".

[Maya-Neko]

引用自 thrythlind：

引用自 Maya-Neko：

The wiki says it's pronounced like this:

IPA: /θəjɛ́/, pronounced "thuh-yeh"

so i would most likely go with that, if i really wanted to be precise about native names. But overall i would say that it's ok to use the translated name, since that makes it way easier to properly communicate with others and especially in random lobbies.

Huh, I couldn't find pronunciation guide on the wiki hence my guess above... that's pretty close to my guess though.

And I'd go with "thuh-yeh" in order to avoid confusion with "they".

It's in the Trivia part at the bottom in the Phasmo Wiki^^

The normal and the phasmo wiki also lists သရဲ (the burmese word), which you can just put into google translator and let it read it out loud

[thrythlind]

-_-

I feel dumb. I did an over-think.