Can't wait for DLCs

[TheLegendDan]

Love the game so far, not so much solo, always feels too risky to play solo it's all or nothing, at least with friends they can investigate while whoever paid for gear can watch the monitors and delegate.

WHAT I REALLY want to discuss is possible DLCs for the future. Loving the suburban feel and the campsite and farm houses are great, the high school and asylum and prison are creepy AF but just imagine "Phasmophobia: The Giza Files!" exploring the pyramids and tombs of ancient egypt looking for ghosts. For that matter, how about Italy, Rome and the Vatican?? or Mexico? finding El Chupacabra? Japan?? Oh man would I love to track down an Oni in Japan just have it cut me in half with a sword lol!!

This game has like unlimited potential for the future, I really really home the development team doesn't loose steam and sticks with it. I can see this game going a long way. I don't even think people realize just how much untapped potential is here.

[TheLegendDan]

You guys do understand that DLC is any further content added to the game... doesn't necessarily have to cost anything.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

we already got a couple of DLC´s

DLC means downloadable content and any update is a DLC in that regard

so I ahve no clue what OP is talking about tbh unless they meant payed DLC in for of add-ons but they didnt say that specifically

The context of DLC also indicates *separate* download, and usually separate *purchase*. :)

DLC is not ruled out but the developers want to do to things regarding that: 1) Finish development of the game itself and 2) not have DLC that provides the owner an advantage or which would serve to split the playerbase (like new maps). :)

The context of DLC also is usually "Not a part of the intended base game"; Currently, Phasmophobia is in Early Access; So any updates are things that are intended parts of the base game- None of it is 'dlc'. (Or, to paraphrase, Anything implemented currently for Phasmophobia is 'Base game content'; Not additional 'downloaded content'.)

This delineation matters, Otherwise every update for every game ever would be DLC; And any game downloaded from Steam would be DLC, as it's content you downloaded.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

This delineation matters, Otherwise every update for every game ever would be DLC

I mean, that's what the acronym means. "Downloaded Content". DLC can be both free or paid. Every digitally installed update we download is a form of DLC.

People misunderstanding the term isn't exactly a new concept in this day and age of poor literacy, but that doesn't change what the phrase means or implies.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

This delineation matters, Otherwise every update for every game ever would be DLC

I mean, that's what the acronym means. "Downloaded Content". DLC can be both free or paid. Every digitally installed update we download is a form of DLC.

People misunderstanding the term isn't exactly a new concept in this day and age of poor literacy, but that doesn't change what the phrase means or implies.

Again though, There is a difference between an update of a game from 1.0 to 1.1 and a whole new suite of content downloaded that must be downloaded separately from the base game.

Yes, both things are downloaded; But only one of the two is part of the base installation of the game that you have installed. Whether or not it's paid isn't important here.

If an update for the base game is DLC, Then so is the base game itself. Which is stupid; It doesn't matter what the specific and precise meaning of the term 'DLC' is if noone actually uses the term DLC that way.


It's like when most people say "They Literally XYZ" but are actually speaking figuratively/exaggeratively. "It's literally raining cats and dogs out there"- It is not literally cats and dogs falling from the sky, It's a ♥♥♥♥ ton of rain. And though the usage is INCREDIBLY wrong, It is socially accepted that the misuse of the word is essentially correct in a non-formal environment.

Edit: To try and clarify my point a little: Noone uses the term 'DLC' to mean 'the last major update' to the game or 'the game I just downloaded last night'. So even though the term DLC technically applies in both cases, It's still an inappropriate usage to apply the term DLC in those cases.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Again though, There is a difference between an update of a game from 1.0 to 1.1 and a whole new suite of content downloaded that must be downloaded separately from the base game.

It being a separate piece of a game doesn't change the fact that a patch is a form of Downloaded Content.

Yes, both things are downloaded; But only one of the two is part of the base installation of the game that you have installed. Whether or not it's paid isn't important here.

What you are describing is a separate expansion or branch of the game. It's as much "DLC" as patch you've downloaded. The only difference is how the code links into the game and what parts it hooks into.

If an update for the base game is DLC, Then so is the base game itself. Which is stupid; It doesn't matter what the specific and precise meaning of the term 'DLC' is if noone actually uses the term DLC that way.

It's worth remembering "Downloaded Content" was originally patches hosted on websites, or a direct download through a game to obtain a patch. Warcraft II is a great example of how we would obtain "DLC" patches through logging into Battle.Net though the game itself. It would download the patch, apply the patch prompt you to reboot the game and off you go.

Civilization 3 was an example of how we would go to a website to download a patch to apply to our game for bug fixes/changes.

Back in the day, we had physical copies that we ran off Disks/CDs after installing the files off them. It wasn't until the early 2000s when we started seeing games offer an option to download digitally. But in most cases, there was still a physical CD you could get and install from.

But if you really want to get pedantic about it, we can still classify by definition of the words "Downloaded" and "content", that downloading a video game would be considered DLC, as is downloading a patch/hotfix, as is downloading an expansion. Someone using the acronym in any of those manners is equally correct as someone using it to describe a paid download and day one paid download add-ons.

[Rhapsody]

I am sorry but you are wrong on your definition of DLC in this case. Especially on Steam, the term is used for separate products or titles are are optionally added to the game. You can explore your own Steam library for games which have their own DLC; The term is used in that form in all forms of options which enable the user to control their DLC installation.

Actual game updates are mandatory and required to play the game. DLC are not required.

The argument is moot anyway and has no bearing on development of Phasmophobia or its potential future DLC releases.

[Luke]

wtf dude
you one of those cucks that think we should pay for extra ♥♥♥♥? how long you been in gaming, a year and a half? if the devs wanna charge us for it then thats their choice, but dont be "begging" for dlc ya ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

we already got a couple of DLC´s

DLC means downloadable content and any update is a DLC in that regard

so I ahve no clue what OP is talking about tbh unless they meant payed DLC in for of add-ons but they didnt say that specifically

The context of DLC also indicates *separate* download, and usually separate *purchase*. :)

DLC is not ruled out but the developers want to do to things regarding that: 1) Finish development of the game itself and 2) not have DLC that provides the owner an advantage or which would serve to split the playerbase (like new maps). :)

indicates but not inclusive to it
any patch is seperate* you don´t have to download any of them you can always play the game, on version 1.0 or in this case pre release versions

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

any patch is seperate* you don´t have to download any of them you can always play the game, on version 1.0 or in this case pre release versions

That is false information. It's not applicable to Phasmophobia and many other Steam games.

[Starwight/ttv]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

any patch is seperate* you don´t have to download any of them you can always play the game, on version 1.0 or in this case pre release versions

That is false information. It's not applicable to Phasmophobia and many other Steam games.

Even if it wasn't, the common use of the term "DLC" refers to separate CONTENT, such as expansions--not simply updates. That is common use of the term, and at this point I can only presume this person is being willfully obtuse and/or trolling.

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

Originally posted by TheLegendDan:

You guys do understand that DLC is any further content added to the game... doesn't necessarily have to cost anything.

DLC - paid content
update - free content

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

any patch is seperate* you don´t have to download any of them you can always play the game, on version 1.0 or in this case pre release versions

That is false information. It's not applicable to Phasmophobia and many other Steam games.

you cannot be forced to download any update and can always play the unupdated version, some features like online will cease then obvs. In the worst you can always downgrade any game to an earlier version, some games offer that on steam directly and for others you need to use a downgrader tool.

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

That is false information. It's not applicable to Phasmophobia and many other Steam games.

you cannot be forced to download any update and can always play the unupdated version, some features like online will cease then obvs. In the worst you can always downgrade any game to an earlier version, some games offer that on steam directly and for others you need to use a downgrader tool.

and yes it doesnt really apply to phasmo yet as the game is unreleased but technically nothing is stopping you from playing the for example pre cursed items version of the game, for phasmo you cannot downgrade it via steam directly but you can get an earlier version of the game or downgrade the steam version with a downgrader tool if anyone made one yet if not you might be able to programm it yourself but you do need the old version for that anyways

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

That is false information. It's not applicable to Phasmophobia and many other Steam games.

you cannot be forced to download any update and can always play the unupdated version, some features like online will cease then obvs. In the worst you can always downgrade any game to an earlier version, some games offer that on steam directly and for others you need to use a downgrader tool.

Here is an excerpt from the game's EULA (which is technically a legally binding agreement):

"From time to time we may provide updates and other modifications to the Game that must be installed for you to be able to continue to play the Game properly or at all. We may update or modify the Game for such purpose. You hereby grant us the right to deploy and apply such updates and modifications. "

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

"From time to time we may provide updates and other modifications to the Game that must be installed for you to be able to continue to play the Game properly or at all. We may update or modify the Game for such purpose. You hereby grant us the right to deploy and apply such updates and modifications. "

Nothing there stated suggests that you're breaching the EULA by playing an older version. It's saying that your game may cease to function completely.