Use of flashlights...

[Razor2nd]

I utilize flashlights to help me find hiding places in the dark. I place them strategically on the floor. I know you do not want to have electronic devices ON during a hunt when you are hiding, but do the flashlights help to guide the ghosts to you? I have not noticed this being a problem as of now, but wanted to know if anyone else had an opinion on this strategy.

[Waylander]

Its not a good idea if the ghost is a Raiju. They move faster with active electronics nearby. Any placed electronics increase its speed and I'm 99% sure that includes powered on flashlights on the floor.

Their hunt threshold is also much higher when near active electronics (I'm pretty sure its normally 50% but near electronics its 65% sanity)

[Renlish]

Just continuing on from Waylander, you also have ghosts that will find you regardless of whether you're holding a torch or not when hiding. I mean, what you've described is absolutely a valid technique like any other but it has it's pitfalls like most methods.

You can use the glow sticks in the same way as you're using torches here - they don't use electricity but you have the issue of them getting gradually dimmer as time progresses. I think they may have sped this up in the last update as I've noticed them get dim much quicker than I remember. I think it's the only light source in the game that doesn't upset or attract the ghosts in any way.

EDIT... ACTUALLY.... This is what I just got from the wiki when looking for something else, so I guess you're ok...

"The following do not attract the ghost:

Footsteps;
Door, closet and locker noises;
**Electronics on the floor, even when turned on;**
Electronics that are held and turned off;
Crucifixes;
Lit smudge sticks;
Candles and glowsticks, even when lit;
Players outside the investigation area."

I would be wary about the lit candles though as candles annoy an Onryo if one happens to blow it out.

[Razor2nd]

Originally posted by Waylander:

Its not a good idea if the ghost is a Raiju. They move faster with active electronics nearby. Any placed electronics increase its speed and I'm 99% sure that includes powered on flashlights on the floor.

Their hunt threshold is also much higher when near active electronics (I'm pretty sure its normally 50% but near electronics its 65% sanity)

Thanks for the info!

[Razor2nd]

Originally posted by Renlish:

Just continuing on from Waylander, you also have ghosts that will find you regardless of whether you're holding a torch or not when hiding. I mean, what you've described is absolutely a valid technique like any other but it has it's pitfalls like most methods.

You can use the glow sticks in the same way as you're using torches here - they don't use electricity but you have the issue of them getting gradually dimmer as time progresses. I think they may have sped this up in the last update as I've noticed them get dim much quicker than I remember. I think it's the only light source in the game that doesn't upset or attract the ghosts in any way.

EDIT... ACTUALLY.... This is what I just got from the wiki when looking for something else, so I guess you're ok...

"The following do not attract the ghost:

Footsteps;
Door, closet and locker noises;
**Electronics on the floor, even when turned on;**
Electronics that are held and turned off;
Crucifixes;
Lit smudge sticks;
Candles and glowsticks, even when lit;
Players outside the investigation area."

I would be wary about the lit candles though as candles annoy an Onryo if one happens to blow it out.

Thanks!

[Ozone]

We use this method in our team; We place flashlights and glowsticks to mark the path to secure areas and hiding spots. We also use Dots when they aren't useful anymore.

We don't care if it's a Raiju at first: there are other ghosts way more dangerous (Thaye, Moroi, Demon, ...), but if our investigation points to a Raiju, we'll stop everything and take some time to remove all electronics before getting in the danger hunting-zone.

It's safer to have clearly defined paths with flashlights overall, since the chances to get a Raiju are fairly small.

Personally, I never use a flashlight: I'm using cameras at first, then when I'm done with the camera, our team has put flashlights everywhere already, and I'll use a candle to finish.

[Agarillobob]

nah man, we spread out flashlihgts everywhere to provide light during a hunt or the lights bein turned off

if they direct the ghost to you they would in my case direct the ghost everyhwere in the house

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Waylander:

Its not a good idea if the ghost is a Raiju. They move faster with active electronics nearby. Any placed electronics increase its speed and I'm 99% sure that includes powered on flashlights on the floor.

Their hunt threshold is also much higher when near active electronics (I'm pretty sure its normally 50% but near electronics its 65% sanity)

raiju is 1 of 32? ghost, the chances are low you get one and flashlights help during any other ghost so it doesnt matter if its detrimental for sucess on a single ghost

if you find out its raiju you can always remove them at that point

[Andy Mil]

when solo I literally scout with candle only til pinpoint ghost. Then I begin get everything to that room. Once done I will bring flashlight out cuz I might stuck on furniture even I like lv 300 or something I still scare of ghost and large map.

[Myth Alric]

The mechanic for the ghost finding the player, only involves stuff you are holding and using. Anything on the floor is safe. As you can imagine, after being in the house for a while it is possible to have junk all over the place and none of that counts for anything.

[Razor2nd]

Thanks for all of the reply's....

[Maya-Neko]

Do whatever maximizes your chances of survival. The best thing to do is obviously to memorize the layout of each room, but if you doesn't play that much or doesn't want to memorize it to begin with, then using your tools to guide yourself is definitely an option as well.

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

raiju is 1 of 32? ghost, the chances are low you get one and flashlights help during any other ghost so it doesnt matter if its detrimental for sucess on a single ghost

if you find out its raiju you can always remove them at that point

It's 1:24 as of now or 43:1.000, if you also take mimic turning into a Raiju into consideration

But putting flashlights around doesn't really matter that much anyway even with the Raiju, since the area, where the Ghost starts, will always have electronics anyway and most hunts should give you enough time to hide even against a fast ghost. It's still more risky that way, but not as much as risk loosing orientation over it.

[Waylander]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

raiju is 1 of 32? ghost, the chances are low you get one and flashlights help during any other ghost so it doesnt matter if its detrimental for sucess on a single ghost

if you find out its raiju you can always remove them at that point

Yeah... and? He was asking for discussion on the strategy and I was highlighting one downside. It may not be likely but the downside still exists. I use flashlights to highlight paths myself on larger levels with no lights or where obstacles might make escape difficult.

Plus the higher hunt range near electronics could potentially confuse identification. If you were hunted and the team sanity was 60%+ there are only about 6 ghosts which it could be regardless of evidence. Sanity/Hunt timing can massively help identification when you are on Nightmare or running with less or no evidence runs. If there is stuff on the floor everywhere you make it slightly harder by not being able to eliminate an additional ghost from the list.

It can also help with ghost identification. The Myling interferes with electronics from a range less than its footstep noise range. So if you have a torch on the ground which isn't flickering but can hear footsteps (on the same level as you) it is most likely a Myling

[Maya-Neko]

Originally posted by Waylander:

The Myling interferes with electronics from a range less than its footstep noise range. So if you have a torch on the ground which isn't flickering but can hear footsteps (on the same level as you) it is most likely a Myling

It's the other way around^^ Mylings are quiet hunters, thus your equipment will start to flicker, before you can hear a Myling. So if you hear the footsteps first, then it's something else.

Raiju is the only exception to "not a Myling", where its higher range of interfering with electronics can still appear to be a Myling at first glance, but obviously the speed will be much higher for a Raiju.

[Waylander]

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

Originally posted by Waylander:

The Myling interferes with electronics from a range less than its footstep noise range. So if you have a torch on the ground which isn't flickering but can hear footsteps (on the same level as you) it is most likely a Myling

It's the other way around^^ Mylings are quiet hunters, thus your equipment will start to flicker, before you can hear a Myling. So if you hear the footsteps first, then it's something else.

Raiju is the only exception to "not a Myling", where its higher range of interfering with electronics can still appear to be a Myling at first glance, but obviously the speed will be much higher for a Raiju.

Yeah sorry you are correct it is definitely the other way around. I think I rewrote that sentence about 4 times trying for clarity and ended up completely stuffing it up *facepalm*