Alone?

[Mimikchan]

What the Ghost responds to players when they are alone, does that mean 'alone in the house' or 'alone in the room?'
My group generally thinks alone in the house, but I kind of think that takes away from the gameplay for other players (Kinda). Because doing that makes it seem much harder to find the ghost, especially in larger locations. Does anyone suspect which it is?

[HeartClock]

It means "alone in the room".

[ℳɑℵƐɳƮɨɳʊᎦ]

it is alone in the room. You can still get reactions from the ghost if you are together but get low sanity and or start making it mad.

[Mimikchan]

Thank you, guys! That's what I was hoping. I'd done some reading on other forums and they mostly say "it depends" and saw one person say the ghost's line of sight matters, kind of thing.

[Kelrycor]

To make it more exact:

1. the ghost must be actually in a 3 meter range of the person calling out the question (the position of the spirit box does not matter, it must be only activated and in hearing range)
2. some ghosts only answer to single persons in the room, some will answer also to groups
3. some ghosts only answer if the room is not lit

So the best chances to get an answer is to let others leave the room and switch off the room lights (candles or flashlight doesn't matter). You may throw the spirit box on the floor and wander around in bigger rooms while asking several questions to the ghost to. Do it especially near the spot the ghost is most times active or did recently a ghost activity to increase the chances to be in its 3 meter range and the ghost is in the room actually (if he is currently wandering through the house, you won't get any answer).

Fun fact: ghosts also answer during hunts ;)

[Mimikchan]

Ghost's answer during hunts! that's a cheerful thought :p thank you for the clarification!

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Mimikchan:

Ghost's answer during hunts! that's a cheerful thought :p thank you for the clarification!

Considering they can catch you now, it's not worth the risk.

Mr. Obvious stating the obvious :D

[Snoopa]

It means alone in the room. Also only corresponds to spirit box. When you get a spirit box answer (or not) then the alone/everyone thing on the whiteboard no longer matters.

It has no meaning towards the trait of the ghost. If it were, there would be huge contradictions towards certain ghost types. For example, Onis are active as a group wouldn't make sense for it to respond to people who are alone. Same for shade being a shy ghost and responding to everyone.

[His Quivzness]

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

To make it more exact:
3. some ghosts only answer if the room is not lit

The lights in the room MUST be off. No ghost will answer the spirit box with the lights on.

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by His Quivzness:

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

To make it more exact:
3. some ghosts only answer if the room is not lit

The lights in the room MUST be off. No ghost will answer the spirit box with the lights on.

This is not right. I had a lot of ghosts which also answered when the lights were on in the room. It is advisable to turn them off and not rely on this, but some ghost don't bother the room being lit.

[Boogie]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

This is not right. I had a lot of ghosts which also answered when the lights were on in the room. It is advisable to turn them off and not rely on this, but some ghost don't bother the room being lit.

It's hard to find a video of this (because it's not a thing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Kao4bRVQo - Even in the comments it was answered "so it turns out if the person asking the spirit box is in the dark, and they're within 3m of the ghost, all spirit boxes will answer regardless of where they are, including light rooms. thanks to someone pointing it out from discord"

Yeah, there will always be some one offs or a glitch, but yes, spirit box requires the light off.

[Mimikchan]

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

Originally posted by His Quivzness:

The lights in the room MUST be off. No ghost will answer the spirit box with the lights on.

This is not right. I had a lot of ghosts which also answered when the lights were on in the room. It is advisable to turn them off and not rely on this, but some ghost don't bother the room being lit.

I know that mares specifically won't do much if the lights are on, but it might be different in the case of other ghosts.

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

This is not right. I had a lot of ghosts which also answered when the lights were on in the room. It is advisable to turn them off and not rely on this, but some ghost don't bother the room being lit.

It's hard to find a video of this (because it's not a thing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Kao4bRVQo - Even in the comments it was answered "so it turns out if the person asking the spirit box is in the dark, and they're within 3m of the ghost, all spirit boxes will answer regardless of where they are, including light rooms. thanks to someone pointing it out from discord"

Yes, this is what I mean. Happens to me quite often because I am blabbering with the ghost a lot, regardless of the light.

Regardless of it being a bug or a glitch. But sometimes it just works that the room lights are on and the box will answer anyway. Though it never works with a Mare. this is why I believe it may not be a bug.

Would be cool if someone can take a look into the code if this is intended or not.

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

Yes, this is what I mean. Happens to me quite often because I am blabbering with the ghost a lot, regardless of the light.

Regardless of it being a bug or a glitch. But sometimes it just works that the room lights are on and the box will answer anyway. Though it never works with a Mare. this is why I believe it may not be a bug.

Would be cool if someone can take a look into the code if this is intended or not.

Even the tutorial says to have the lights off, I'd see if you can try and replicate it.

Even the journal still states that the Phantom can possess a player. But it cannot right now. So what is your point now? The game is EA and is changing every day. We don't know what DKnigher really changed. Some minor things he changed I never found in his changelogs.

But I will check it next time if it happens again, and will also take a look if a "dark area" in the room will count as well. I highely doubt it, doesn't fit to my experiences so far when it happened. And as far as I noticed it doesn't matter to the sanity drop as well if you are standing in dark areas of a lit room (for example damaged lamps in corridors in Asylum and such). I will note down the ghost type also. might be interesting if this is tight to some few ghosts only (like the Demon being less active than the room is lit).

For the time being, maybe it is an urban legend that ghosts only answer in dark rooms? Like some people still thinking that taking a picture of a dead body will have an influence on the insurance.

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

If you don't want to take my word for it, google around and ask on the discord.

No need for it. Intended or not, the video you posted is already demonstrating that it can happen that you get an answer in a lit room. This is sufficient and it matches my experiences that I had a couple of times. So I was right that a ghost may answer you in a lit room (though the chances are way bigger to switch off the room lights). If it is true that it is more connected to dark area than the light switches, the tutorial is wrong, as I already asumed.

Thank you for finding this video and sharing it with us.

[Kelrycor]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Kelrycor:

No need for it. Intended or not, the video you posted is already demonstrating that it can happen that you get an answer in a lit room. This is sufficient and it matches my experiences that I had a couple of times. So I was right that a ghost may answer you in a lit room (though the chances are way bigger to switch off the room lights). If it is true that it is more connected to dark area than the light switches, the tutorial is wrong, as I already asumed.

Thank you for finding this video and sharing it with us.

I shared a video of a bug, that was fixed.

Phasmophobia Beta Patch Notes April 26: Edgefield: Fixed a bug where you could ask spirit box questions with the lights on in the blue and green bedroom. - The wording of this patch note alone should clarify it's a bug.

I don't know how it's coded but since torches, lamps and candles have no effect on spirit boxes, it's most likely just a basic if code, if power + lights = on, spirit box won't work.

I will check it out next time it happens. It seems that a lot more places have this bug then, as I was not speaking about Edgefield specifically. It happened on other maps too.