Judith Spear Brionac

[ナズカ―さん]

I hear there are several steps for go to get the spear

1. After finishing Shaikos Ruins, you will be told to return to Aspio, specifically Rita's house. Go there and view the scene. Finish that scene and leave. You will get another scene with Rita joining you, then after that, go immediately back to Rita's house and check the blastia on the left. If you don't know what I mean, start clicking A on the left wall and you'll get it eventually. Rita will then name the blastia Victoria after the scene.

2. After finishing Ehmeed Hill, go IMMEDIATELY back from the way you exited and then go back to the blastia. Rita gives the blastia the name, Ekaterine(?).

3. After Brave Vesperia is created, go to Capua Torim and speak to a woman by a tree. It's on the upper level. A scene occurs where Judith wonders off and attacks a nearby blastia while the others speak with the woman.

4. In Nordopolica (the first time you get there), talk a man by the pot. Judith should once more leave the group here and attack a nearby blastia.

5. After Judtith comes back @ Mount Temza, go to Capua Torim and speak with the same woman as you did in #3 and here, Judith admits that she attacked the blastia from way back when. (You should be able to fly with Ba'ul now. You can finish the next few steps immediately after this one.)

6. Go to Ehmeed Hill after finishing #5 from the left. And yes, I said LEFT. Not right. Here, you see Rita talking to Judith about the incident where Judith destroyed the blastia.

7. Head to Ghasforost after finishing #6, then go to where you first controlled both Yuri and Judith. It's the right room >>. In there, you will get a scene. After this, go to Capua Torim and speak to Kaufman at the Fortune's Market HQ. A scene occurs where Judith asks Kaufman about Brionac. Then go to Dahngrest and talk to the merchant at the Fortune's market store there (the store with the sign, #1 not store #2).

8. After Aurnion shows up, go to Zaphias and a scene should occur where Judith asks Yuri to visit the Lower quarter. Enter Zaphias through the Lower quarter and try to go out of there through the north exit. A scene starts here where the girls (Rita, Estelle, and Judith) say they want to destroy the blastia in the castle. Go to the Noble's quarter and try to enter the castle, A scene starts here and follow through with it. The scene is where the girls destroy a blastia in the knight's dining room.

9. Rest @ Aurnion's inn. A scene with the 4 spirits occur and after finishing that, you will wake up. Get out of Aurnion and re-enter for part 10.

10. After re-entering Aurnion, rest at the inn once more to get a scene in the morning where Judith and the others have a conversation and Judith starts to think about giving up her search on the Brionac. Leave and re-enter Aurnion one more time.

11. Change the show-up character to Rita, and check the blastia in the middle of the town. (the "rock" you see as soon as you enter Aurnion). A scene occurs where Rita talks about the blastia and whatnot. I forgot what they said. But Rita and Judith are both in that scene.

12. Go to Caer Bocram (the city where you thought Gusios first) and then go to the first house on the right. A scene occurs with the Blood Alliance guild remnants and they fork over the Brionac after being threatened by Rita and Yuri. After all this, you finally get Judith's strongest spear.

so what happen if i miss one of these steps? (currently miss step 2) can i still get the spear?

[Shadow Esper]

Brionac is a very tempermental quest. Miss anything, do a quest out of order, and it could get screwed up. If you know you missed a step, then there's a 99% chance you cannot get it.

I say 99% because I don't think anyone really knows what connects to the quest arbitrarily, unless they dug into the quest code to actually find the specifics.

It's the hardest quest to complete, just for how easily you can screw yourself out of it.

[RustyRed]

In this game, it's better to play blind on first playthrough or use a spoiler-free completion guide. If you missed the second one, it's already too late.

[ナズカ―さん]

Originally posted by xuthan:

In this game, it's better to play blind on first playthrough or use a spoiler-free completion guide. If you missed the second one, it's already too late.

So i probably need to give up on this quest for this playthrough? That harsh

[Miraglyth]

My goodness, the ancient myth still hasn't disappeared?

Some of those steps listed above ARE NOT PART OF THE BRIONAC SIDEQUEST. I proved (and still insist discovered) this back on the 360 version long ago.

3, 4, 5 and if I remember 6 are related to each other, but are a totally separate sidequest about Rita's views on blastia destruction.

2 is absolutely not required to get the Brionac, unless they've inexplicably changed it. It was long mistaken as a part of the sequence because it involves Rita naming a blastia as the first step of the Brionac sidequest does.

On the 360 version, there was only one missable part of the entire Brionac sequence, which was the first part in Rita's house. Everything after that is either not missable or not required. This might have changed in Definitive.

[ナズカ―さん]

Originally posted by Miraglyth:

My goodness, the ancient myth still hasn't disappeared?

Some of those steps listed above ARE NOT PART OF THE BRIONAC SIDEQUEST. I proved (and still insist discovered) this back on the 360 version long ago.

3, 4, 5 and if I remember 6 are related to each other, but are a totally separate sidequest about Rita's views on blastia destruction.

2 is absolutely not required to get the Brionac, unless they've inexplicably changed it. It was long mistaken as a part of the sequence because it involves Rita naming a blastia as the first step of the Brionac sidequest does.

On the 360 version, there was only one missable part of the entire Brionac sequence, which was the first part in Rita's house. Everything after that is either not missable or not required. This might have changed in Definitive.

Is that so? Thanks.. maybe i'll try to finish the game till the end.. hope i never miss this quest

[OnlyOffensive]

yea you better try. I think without even one fell arm you cant unseal them. Final form of last boss only activates if you have all of them.

[RustyRed]

Originally posted by ナズカ―さん:

Originally posted by Miraglyth:

My goodness, the ancient myth still hasn't disappeared?

Some of those steps listed above ARE NOT PART OF THE BRIONAC SIDEQUEST. I proved (and still insist discovered) this back on the 360 version long ago.

3, 4, 5 and if I remember 6 are related to each other, but are a totally separate sidequest about Rita's views on blastia destruction.

2 is absolutely not required to get the Brionac, unless they've inexplicably changed it. It was long mistaken as a part of the sequence because it involves Rita naming a blastia as the first step of the Brionac sidequest does.

On the 360 version, there was only one missable part of the entire Brionac sequence, which was the first part in Rita's house. Everything after that is either not missable or not required. This might have changed in Definitive.

Is that so? Thanks.. maybe i'll try to finish the game till the end.. hope i never miss this quest :cozybethesda:

If that were the case, then there might be some hope, but I doubt it. I only missed the first two but got the rest. I was still able trigger the first one late in the game, so essentially, I only missed the second one as well.

[Luna ~]

what Miraglyth said is true btw

[Miraglyth]

And for what it's worth, my original postings on the subject can be found on a few GameFAQs board topics:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/945075-tales-of-vesperia/53199203
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/945075-tales-of-vesperia/53668867

I'm seeing a few people on Definitive stressing that Aurnion can mess the quest up. I proved otherwise back on the 360* so I'll definitely be checking with several reloads once I get to that point in the game on Steam.

* The main reason people were caught out by Aurnion before was because when you entered it with too many sidequests available (and it easily starts with too many available), it didn't let you do them all. You could reroll which ones are available by leaving and re-entering, and obviously as you cleared some, others were more likely to appear until you had done them all. That's what I expect is happening with Definitive too.

[RustyRed]

I just tried again and I can confirm you don't need the second one. Just got the Brionac spear on my old save, so there is hope for you OP. It might be a bug that's preventing people from getting the final step. I read a guide which says you might have to reload multiple times for it to work.

[Doom_Cookies]

Originally posted by Miraglyth:

The main reason people were caught out by Aurnion before was because when you entered it with too many sidequests available (and it easily starts with too many available), it didn't let you do them all. You could reroll which ones are available by leaving and re-entering, and obviously as you cleared some, others were more likely to appear until you had done them all. That's what I expect is happening with Definitive too.

This still happens in the Definitive Edition, too, yes. I had this happen, and it took me a few minutes to catch on as to what was going on. Only a few quests are active in Aurnion at a time.

[Cress]

Wow, I checked this guide and just realized I did almost everything blind, thanks to my backtracking paranoia. I just missed a dialogue in Fortune's Market HQ and resting on Aurnion for the 191200192 time (since I always rest in the inn of a city I'm currently visiting for whatever reason).
Just a heads up for everyone, and this is IMPORTANT: For whatever reason they changed the Caer Brocam house location in this version. It's not the first house on the right anymore. I entered and exited that damn house countless of times, being 100% positive that I didn't miss any steps, and the cutscene just didn't trigger. Then, I decided to explore the entire place and discovered it's in ANOTHER house: A house in the feft side of the upper level, where you see the leader of Hunting Blades using Fatal Strike for the first time early in the game. So I hope this helps someone.

[Rachito]

Originally posted by Cress:

Wow, I checked this guide and just realized I did almost everything blind, thanks to my backtracking paranoia. I just missed a dialogue in Fortune's Market HQ and resting on Aurnion for the 191200192 time (since I always rest in the inn of a city I'm currently visiting for whatever reason).
Just a heads up for everyone, and this is IMPORTANT: For whatever reason they changed the Caer Brocam house location in this version. It's not the first house on the right anymore. I entered and exited that damn house countless of times, being 100% positive that I didn't miss any steps, and the cutscene just didn't trigger. Then, I decided to explore the entire place and discovered it's in ANOTHER house: A house in the feft side of the upper level, where you see the leader of Hunting Blades using Fatal Strike for the first time early in the game. So I hope this helps someone.

I was already in the last part of the sidequest i thought I had miss the spear for good. Now i find it, thanks.

By the way people, i miss the second part (check the blastia in Ehmeed Hill) even so I could get it, so it´s safe not do that part.

[ナズカ―さん]

Originally posted by Rachito:

Originally posted by Cress:

Wow, I checked this guide and just realized I did almost everything blind, thanks to my backtracking paranoia. I just missed a dialogue in Fortune's Market HQ and resting on Aurnion for the 191200192 time (since I always rest in the inn of a city I'm currently visiting for whatever reason).
Just a heads up for everyone, and this is IMPORTANT: For whatever reason they changed the Caer Brocam house location in this version. It's not the first house on the right anymore. I entered and exited that damn house countless of times, being 100% positive that I didn't miss any steps, and the cutscene just didn't trigger. Then, I decided to explore the entire place and discovered it's in ANOTHER house: A house in the feft side of the upper level, where you see the leader of Hunting Blades using Fatal Strike for the first time early in the game. So I hope this helps someone.

I was already in the last part of the sidequest i thought I had miss the spear for good. Now i find it, thanks.

By the way people, i miss the second part (check the blastia in Ehmeed Hill) even so I could get it, so it´s safe not do that part.

nice ... working hard on it

[OnlyOffensive]

got the spear but i cant trigger final part ( resting at inn in aurnion after obtaining it ). Is it required for anything? That aurnion is such a disaster, million events and reenters...