Can Citizen Capet be saved through acquittal and you not have a game over?

[Venne]

I've played through the first 6 days 4 or 5 times now (with small restarts in between if I realize I could have done a day better) trying to micro-optimize my opinions of everyone to make sure I have enough positive opinion to declare Louis innocent.

It didn't work. It seems no matter what I do the opinion drop is too much.

Anyone manage to do it? And to the developer if they read this, is it possible?

[Venne]

Also I don't care if it's not possible. Even if it is I expect it to lead to a "game over" screen or something because letting the king live would be a huge deal and majorly change the story obviously.

[Underscor_]

You gain an achievement if you let the king live. So i guess it's possible, but probably really hard to do.

[koskeusko]

Not really. I'm not sure about game over via make him free, but jailing is enough to get achievement. Its kinda easy to manage if you have enough support to survive opinion drop. Not like you to have to use all avaliable questions, just lead Jury to what you want. Otherwise, going against Jury is ouch in opinion drop and reputation.

[Venne]

I'm sorry I'm not caring much about getting the achievement. I already got the "jail Capet so he lives" acheivement, that was easy.

I want to actually acquit him though.

As in find him innocent. It's possible to have the jury vote for acquittal if you ask the right questions.

But the opinion loss seems impossible to beat. "The People" went from like...+8 to like -max when I tried to acquit him last time.

[Vangryn De Kal]

I acquit the king and i have enough popularity for not dying and you die anyway :)

[Jactar]

You are too much hang on to justice. In revolutionary courts are mostly about entertainment for blood hungry masses of people who want to see noble blood and occasionally blood of some random criminals. You are there just to provide that entertainment for them.

The only way to be popular is to provide that entertainment. The show must go on. Jesters and clowns chance from time to time, but circus stays. You can chance and remove some jesters and clowns but never whole circus and its audience.

This is basicly whole point of this game. At least how I see it. Sure you can occasianally save someone but you mostly have to be that entertainer to maintain your popularity.

[Alberto]

Originally posted by Jactar:

You are too much hang on to justice. In revolutionary courts are mostly about entertainment for blood hungry masses of people who want to see noble blood and occasionally blood of some random criminals. You are there just to provide that entertainment for them.

The only way to be popular is to provide that entertainment. The show must go on. Jesters and clowns chance from time to time, but circus stays. You can chance and remove some jesters and clowns but never whole circus and its audience.

This is basicly whole point of this game. At least how I see it. Sure you can occasianally save someone but you mostly have to be that entertainer to maintain your popularity.

Eh.

Aquitting Louis is not justice. He was guilty. There was proof of him escaping and collaborating with foreign powers.

[Carmichael]

I also would like to have a confirmation if it is possible. Mechanically, it's impossible to have the court to your side, while you can bring them to the idea of Acquital on the first part, the second part you cannot go lower than Imprison since there is not enough options.
I worked hard to save enough to offset even the -2 opinion malus from going against them but it didn't change anything, the People will always lynch you.

[The One True Morty]

Maybe you should take this as a sign that the Will of The People will not be denied. Exactly how it would have gone in reality too.

[Carmichael]

Except if there was a thing that we could say was not the will of the people, it was the execution of Louis XVI. It was the most debated thing at the time, and he was found guilty by the Assembly on a majority of only 1 vote. The people wanting the end of the monarchy was a myth invented after by the Republican to justify the New Regime, most of the French were still attached to their King and the execution of Louis XVI is considered the trigger where everything went down to hell.

[Mccoy]

I think that King Louis' case is an exception. With the waiting crowd out of the courthouse I think is coherent that an acquittal sentence cannot be accepted without causing a riot and consequently the judge lynching.

[Carmichael]

Except you have a meter made expressedly to gauge that. i would understand if you waited long enough for the gauge to be full, but I made a successful speech and it was still in the middle when I acquitted him, which makes no sense I found.
Honestly, it just feels like the developpers didn't have enough time/didn't want to create a Louis-alive route and force you to condemn him. Doesn't make me want to play the rest honestly.

[Monéo Atréides]

Originally posted by Carmichael:

Except you have a meter made expressedly to gauge that. i would understand if you waited long enough for the gauge to be full, but I made a successful speech and it was still in the middle when I acquitted him, which makes no sense I found.
Honestly, it just feels like the developpers didn't have enough time/didn't want to create a Louis-alive route and force you to condemn him. Doesn't make me want to play the rest honestly.

Don't forget how Louis XVI has been incarcerated, he has been chased by the mob alone.
So it's normal that you can't save him, the mob is ready to act anyway.

[Chris1996]

Originally posted by Alberto:

Originally posted by Jactar:

You are too much hang on to justice. In revolutionary courts are mostly about entertainment for blood hungry masses of people who want to see noble blood and occasionally blood of some random criminals. You are there just to provide that entertainment for them.

The only way to be popular is to provide that entertainment. The show must go on. Jesters and clowns chance from time to time, but circus stays. You can chance and remove some jesters and clowns but never whole circus and its audience.

This is basicly whole point of this game. At least how I see it. Sure you can occasianally save someone but you mostly have to be that entertainer to maintain your popularity.

Eh.

Aquitting Louis is not justice. He was guilty. There was proof of him escaping and collaborating with foreign powers.

all lies, fabricated by the jacobins! he only fled to safety. only thing he was guilty of was cowardice and i dont blame him