Weapon mods...

[RakkSixx]

Why is it some peoples guns are kitted out and yet most of us only get iron sights?

[Arl6]

I want to know this too

[Goomes]

Just the way those factions were made. Custom factions can be made in the SDK if you want to see it another way. Eventually we do plan on implementing a customization system in game, but that will be awhile before we get to that.

[RakkSixx]

So what youre saying is that the opposing force that isnt America has no access to such mods and they are far less superior? This is the modern age everyone has access to modern weaponry and such you are putting constraints on players who decide to play insurgents.

[Goomes]

Originally posted by RakkSixx:

So what youre saying is that the opposing force that isnt America has no access to such mods and they are far less superior? This is the modern age everyone has access to modern weaponry and such you are putting constraints on players who decide to play insurgents.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but if not you are welcome to make your own custom factions with the mod tools exactly how you desire, nothing stopping you.

[RakkSixx]

Saying in multiplayer its unbalanced with PMC's with access to superior scopes and mods while the insurgents have iron sights only. Not being sarcastic being realistic. I want to support this game and the reality is, the enemy is just as well armed as we are.

[Goomes]

In my experience playing these maps over and over with all the factions (hundreds of hours of testing), this is not exactly true and it's a total mixed bag and depends on how players play the game. I have seen the Insurgents win tons of times.

[RakkSixx]

Not that insurgents cant win just suggesting that it be an option for insurgents to have access to some, not all, modern weapons and sights. It would be beneficial since other games like this one, Insurgency, Squad, etc... do not limit the opposing force.

[Boycott, Divest and Sanction]

Originally posted by RakkSixx:

Not that insurgents cant win just suggesting that it be an option for insurgents to have access to some, not all, modern weapons and sights. It would be beneficial since other games like this one, Insurgency, Squad, etc... do not limit the opposing force.

I think you missed the point of Squad

[Goomes]

Again, this is sort of the point of the mod kit, you can go make that stuff if you want to see it another way. There is plenty of content and changes I am sure we will wind up getting to, but we set things a certain way for now the way that we personally wanted to see them knowing full well not everyone is going to agree with that. This is why we give you the tools because we know we cannot please everyone. There are already a multitude of other faction mods out right now that have a whole slew of new weapons that might be more suited to your taste.

[TwiztidFingaz]

Just for peeps that dont know...you can loot enemy bodies...thus gaining their scopes etc if they have

[✠TheGreatAngel✠]

Originally posted by pee:

Originally posted by RakkSixx:

Not that insurgents cant win just suggesting that it be an option for insurgents to have access to some, not all, modern weapons and sights. It would be beneficial since other games like this one, Insurgency, Squad, etc... do not limit the opposing force.

I think you missed the point of Squad

Insurgents in Squad definitely have access to attachments get out of here with that arguement.

[Von Einzbern]

well, having iron sights/scopes changes nothing really, it's only about ergonomics. The only difference between Insurgent weapons and pmc one's is that chambering a round is easy as the press of a button. But it's not like you can't play nor win using irons, maybe it's just too uncomfortable for you to aim with them.

I get that it's hard to learn to aim using irons in videogames, some casual experiences depict them wrong and make their players get used to aiming over the sights, or using the front only. So if you jump on a realistic/tactical/more detailed game like modded ravenfield/OHDS/GB/etc you might find it difficult to land your shots properly.

[Multi]

Originally posted by RakkSixx:

So what youre saying is that the opposing force that isnt America has no access to such mods and they are far less superior? This is the modern age everyone has access to modern weaponry and such you are putting constraints on players who decide to play insurgents.

Brother, do you even read what you are writing? asymmetric warfare does exist, not to mention that it's not even that bad, having Iron Sights vs an Eotech is not that much of a difference not to mention that insurgents have the PKM meanwhile PMCs do not have any machine gun whatsoever, does this mean is that the PMC's are "far less superior" because they don't have exclusive access to machine guns? Come on, this is nothing new on similar games like Project Reality or Squad

[RakkSixx]

Originally posted by Goomes:

Again, this is sort of the point of the mod kit, you can go make that stuff if you want to see it another way. There is plenty of content and changes I am sure we will wind up getting to, but we set things a certain way for now the way that we personally wanted to see them knowing full well not everyone is going to agree with that. This is why we give you the tools because we know we cannot please everyone. There are already a multitude of other faction mods out right now that have a whole slew of new weapons that might be more suited to your taste.

Sounds good. Over all the game is enjoyable.

[76561199083063683]

have you not heard of "asymmetric warfare" before ? seriously iron sights and holo sights don't have much of a difference besides just being able to see targets a bit better

Project Reality and Squad has insurgents that don't have any access to optics (aside from bulky soviet optics that is limiting)
Bluedrake did mention there will be weapon customization though it will be restricted to what kind of faction, so if the faction is conventional or unconventional there will be a difference, either way you just have to adapt to different tactics