whats the point of collecting gems ? aka destroying all boxes in a level

[CAESAR™ The Great]

seems like i'm progressing just fine without any of these stuff

[Casurin]

They are Optional - same as most games you can just "finish" the main part, or do the optional extra stuff.

there are 4 optional mechanics:
1 - The gems - you need all of them to unlock an alternative route in one of the last levels to get a different ending.
2 - colored gems - unlocks extra paths - you need those to get all the white gems
3 - keys - unlock extra levels - you need those to get all the white gems
4 - time trial - just for fun.

Again - they are entirely optional, but fun to try.

[CAESAR™ The Great]

thanks buddy!

[QWEEDDY2]

Better google-it crash bandicoot wiki 100% completion.

Casurin
Completely wrong. Every Crash Bandicoot game (except maybe Spyro\Crash crossover, i dont know) require 101% (or more) to complete main story line. Most games require even Time Trial. At least Gold.
CB 1 and CB 2 do not have Time Trials and so - in remake it completely optional (all... EVERY Gold Relics require for 105% CB1 and for 102% CB2). CB 3 original and remake require collecting Gold to gave access to second Final Boss Fight (identical in gameplay, but differ transcript and true canon ending at the end).
CB 2 started where ended Cortex bossfight scene. 103% in CB1 required for video sequence happened before final bossfight. *
But CB3 started directly where 100% (or more) true canon ending of CB2 ended.
Cb 2 do not just force collect every gems, but have additional plot explanation about that.
CB3 use gems just like minor crystals - energy for something. No additional explanation.

* Careful. If you want 105% you must beat Cortex after all levels. The Great Hall give 1% but only if Cortex "still up there". If you beat him first it is possible to achieve only 104% max - 102%+2 for all Gold (or Platinum) relics. 104% do not affect achievements, you still can achieve them all.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

Completely wrong. Every Crash Bandicoot game (except maybe Spyro\Crash crossover, i dont know) require 101% (or more) to complete main story line.

???? No, THAT is completely wrong. In no way do you require the optional ending to finish the game.

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

CB 3 original and remake require collecting Gold to gave access to second Final Boss Fight (identical in gameplay, but differ transcript and true canon ending at the end).

aka - entirely optional and not required to finish the game.

[QWEEDDY2]

What YOU mean finish the game? It not even Spyro (where finish on 101% is not optional too, IMHO), it Crash Bandicoot. It even have plot explanation for 100% completing (not so good explantion at First Bossfisght End in CB3 and CTR and else games, and good explanation in CB2).

To finish any CB game from very first to latest in the series you must achieve 101% or more. For CB series there is no optional endings at all. Moreover, there is no endings except 100% ones. Only exception is CB1 game, where 100% gain access to level and video sequences happened before last bossfight and beating Cortex give you ending in any way.

If you dont get it for CB games - that obviously thing - go back to some Nintendo platformers. I mean, seriously. Optional it is:
Scrapbook menu in CTR
Gallery in Muppet Monster Adventure
some same thing in some Nintendo platformers (im not familiar with them)
additional - only one - car in NFS:MW racing game for completing Challenges Series (100% game).

That is optional.
In CTR you must beat last boss TWICE TO FINISH GAME. To finish, not to get some optional staff. There is no other ending as well as in EVERY Crash game.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

What YOU mean finish the game?

Well - you seem to be conflating finishing with totally completing everything even if it is not needed to reach the end-screen or even unlocks ANY extra content at all. Very stragne definition you are trying to force on others.

[QWEEDDY2]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

What YOU mean finish the game?

Well - you seem to be conflating finishing with totally completing everything even if it is not needed to reach the end-screen or even unlocks ANY extra content at all. Very stragne definition you are trying to force on others.

CB 1-3 no have extra content. CTR is a first game in series with some extra unlockabale by wining some races in non-story modes.

What YOU mean finishing? I mean reach end-screen.
You mean credits? Really?

[Casurin]

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

What YOU mean finishing? I mean reach end-screen.
You mean credits? Really?

I mean endscreen - and you reach that without any of the optional things like gems or relics. So yeah.... you really are strange.

[Mikalana]

so. bit of confusion here.
Collecting all the gems in Crash 1 will net you an alternate ending. It's cute, but it's not cannon. so take that how you will.

Collecting all the gems in Crash 2 will net you the true ending. while it's not required to *finish* the game, it is heavily encouraged by the sting at the end of the game if you haven't, and by N. Brio literally telling you mid play. Not required to see the credits roll, but still a worth-while challenge, and it will get you what is definitively the cannon ending.

Crash 3, same deal. it gets you what is largely seen as the cannon ending. But is not required to finish the game. again, they throw that sting at you after beating Cortex to encourage you to collect all the gems. Sorta. there are still a few extra gems and relics the game doesn't count towards seeing the true ending, but those are hidden between secret warps, and mostly serve to get that 105%.

Crash 3 is the only title in the trilogy where relics, at least up to gold, are required for completion. You can finish the games just fine, but a lot of the fun for the titles, at least for me, comes from getting all the gems. so it's honestly a worth-while challenge. And doesn't require you going too much out of your way to achieve.

At no point is it required to do everything to *finish* the game, just complete them. but it's worth the effort.

[Drago The Dragon]

Well I'm very sure Casurin has in mind just finishing the game (or beating it if you like) which usually does imply going from start to credits across main story line.
Meanwhile what QWEEDDY2 describes is completing it which is getting everything done in the game possible (or getting the True Ending if you prefer). This term is also where another term of Completionist comes from.
I'm pretty sure this is where your differences are at. Well some peeps play a game just to play a game and others play a game to squeeze out all the juices from it. Considering OPs post I think they asked for what Casurin already described in initial answer.

[QWEEDDY2]

Well, yes, i prefer complete platformers games to maximum percentages. But again, CB 1-3 not have any optional content. You finish game - or not. Maybe CB1 additional ending video is optional. It contain not only Tawna, but also some info about charcters (non-canon, cause CB2 stated "one year later" instead of "three" from CB1). CB3 started directky where CB2 ended. ENDED exactly - only one ending in CB2. For ending you must beat second game for 100%. What else meaning of completing can be if not to see ending? I dont get it. We talk about CB series and not about most of the platformers or racing games.

Without gems you miss some levels (2+half in CB1, 2 + three half in CB2, 5 + two half in CB3), so you even cant say that you "beat all levels". Whole point of that games - collecting One Crystal and One(\Two for some lvl) Gem on level. Without it - there is no much content for whole trilogy. You can speedrun it for hour.
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Some games "ended" almost at start. Sometimes with main protagonist "death" (playable scenes). Anyway, CB2 and later games simple not have end-screen before you reach 100%+.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by Drago:

Well I'm very sure Casurin has in mind just finishing the game (or beating it if you like) which usually does imply going from start to credits across main story line.

I mean - imade that clear from the very first post - even specifically highlighting "finish" - and then came along qweedy with the claim you'd need >100% to now "complete" the MAIN-story - which is a very strange statement as the main-story is finished once you beat the last boss. In Crash 2/3 the game also specifically tells you that while you have finished the game there is more stuff to do to get different endings.

In all 3 games you get the end-video and credits by just finishing the normal 25 levels and the boss-levels (6 in crash 1, 5 in 2/3). In all 3 there are extra levels and optional endings when getting all gems (where crash 3 is the only one that requires 25 relics for the alternate ending)

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

only one ending in CB2.....Anyway, CB2 and later games simple not have end-screen before you reach 100%+.

There are 2 endings - no matter how much you try to deny that.

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

For ending you must beat second game for 100%. What else meaning of completing can be if not to see ending? I dont get it.

By your "logic" i can also say you have not "completed" the game unless you have beating every single online relic-record.

[Mikalana]

Originally posted by QWEEDDY2:

Well, yes, i prefer complete platformers games to maximum percentages. But again, CB 1-3 not have any optional content. You finish game - or not.

That's a shallow way of thinking things. I, too, prefer seeing the true ending. and that more often than not involves completion.

But even without 100% completion, you still receive an ending. it may not be satisfying (arguably by design), but it *is* an ending, and you *do* see credits.

What you're describing is completion. which, if that's how you wanna treat finishing a game, fine. but that's on you. Not everyone needs, or wants, to go through the effort of collecting every single collectible to see a slightly alternate ending.

[Spirit]

the gems add a lot of content to the first game. many secrets in previous levels and even some new bonus levels

it's a very short game without them

[QWEEDDY2]

ompletely wrong. Every Crash Bandicoot game (except maybe Spyro\Crash crossover, i dont know) require 101% (or more) to complete main story line.

To complete storyline. No additional bonus content in Cb1-3.

Bruh, there is no alternate ending. Common!

It not GTA (:VC with "i beat game 100% and im get only this T-shirt" *). I mention some other games, including CTR - first game with some optional content.

- you collect everything (or beat online records ) and get just 100% - percentages only - or complete achievements trophy (with no rewards ingame for that)
- you get some gallery of video\artworks staff in unlocakable menu, alternative video sequnces
- you get some only cosmetic\skins change not affect gameplay
- you get affected gameplay skins\artifats\perks (Spyro) or unlockable tracks\cars (any racing game)
- you get one and only ending.

Whre you put Crash 1-3 games, m?

*Talking about GTA. It have content from differ gategory from that my list above. Non of them about get ending.

Crash is rare game where geting 100% achievements really interesting (more than in most games). Not enough for real. Platinum Relics - pain. But speedrunning any% - is wasting money for that game. Better get Spyro for any% playthrough. Or better - any other platformers, where percentage has nothing to do with ending.