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Stellarcrete Nov 24, 2012 @ 2:04am
Why is CS and css still around?
So I am looking at the stats for friday, a fairly big gaming day and what do we have here...
CS: Peak 50k, Current 29k
CSS: Peak 35k, Current 20k
CSGO: Peak 19k, Current 9k

And yes I am in the competive matchmaking que for 15mins on avg. The time is late friday night on west coast.

Look people need to learn that cs and css are dead. If I were valve I would ban these games from steam. The only real problem I have had with csgo since the last patch is there simply aren't enough people playing it. I mean seriously why are there 2.5 times as many people playing a 15 year old game? Because they can thats why. Its essentially free and easy and people don't like change so we need to force it on them. Valve is the only company that just can't get a hold on its community. I like liberal values but sometimes people just need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the third millenium. RANT COMPLETE.

Stellarcrete
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o_O Nov 24, 2012 @ 3:38am 
Sorry,but not everyone has to like CS:GO first at all and to be honest,even if it looks good, i don´t need to play it.It does not suck, but i will tell that you need a large amount of time to adjust to a new game.That might be a reason ,why the playerbase is so small.
But i personally think,those guys are just waiting for 75% off deal or something like that,so that they can buy it very cheap.

Stellarcrete Nov 24, 2012 @ 4:10am 
yea cuz $15 is a real deterent to a game you have spent the last 13 years playing
Treadz alt acc Nov 24, 2012 @ 4:35am 
Totally agree with you.
Toasty Nov 24, 2012 @ 4:58am 
CS:S and 1.6 are CS legends that will [obviously] live on forever. Especially with all of the bugs/problems with CS:GO atm, people don't play it alot really. And this aside, your asking why CS:S and 1.6 are still around and they have more players...They are obviously good games.
And, some other guy went on the CS:S game hub and ranted about how much he hates it and how much he dosn't like it and called it bad.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/240/discussions/0/882963520791827549/
Last edited by Toasty; Nov 24, 2012 @ 8:45am
Stellarcrete Nov 24, 2012 @ 5:45am 
starcraft is a legend, but when sc2 came out, sc got dropped, why? because blizzard can control its fanbase and valve can't and sorry no games live on forever. We should all still be playing supermario cart because that game is da BOMB and OBVIOUSLY a legend

stop defending the lazy, the cheap, and the stupid.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT of a GAMER: the ability to adapt to change

being stuck in your ways for 13 years while the rest of the world has moved on and calling your lil nitch that shrinks everyday THE REAL WORLD is the opposite of adapting to change

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Stevey Nov 24, 2012 @ 7:31am 
How can you say CS and CSS are dead when more people play them than CS:GO?
Toasty Nov 24, 2012 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by Stellarcrete:
CS: Peak 50k, Current 29k
CSS: Peak 35k, Current 20k
CSGO: Peak 19k, Current 9k

Originally posted by Stellarcrete:
being stuck in your ways for 13 years while the rest of the world has moved on and calling your lil nitch that shrinks everyday THE REAL WORLD is the opposite of adapting to change

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Originally posted by Stellarcrete:
Look people need to learn that cs and css are dead. If I were valve I would ban these games from steam.

Stellarcrete


CAN'T TELL IF STUPID^ OR TROLLING^
Last edited by Toasty; Nov 24, 2012 @ 8:47am
Toasty Nov 24, 2012 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Stellarcrete:
starcraft is a legend, but when sc2 came out, sc got dropped, why? because blizzard can control its fanbase and valve can't and sorry no games live on forever. We should all still be playing supermario cart because that game is da BOMB and OBVIOUSLY a legend

stop defending the lazy, the cheap, and the stupid.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT of a GAMER: the ability to adapt to change

being stuck in your ways for 13 years while the rest of the world has moved on and calling your lil nitch that shrinks everyday THE REAL WORLD is the opposite of adapting to change

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"the lazy, the cheap, and the stupid" Oh sorry, were you talking about the games that cost not alot of money and are great and have more people playing? Yeah..I think your alone on that

"because blizzard can control its fanbase and valve can't and sorry no games live on forever" Controling your fanbase makes no sense...They released the games for people to play...This isn't COD where as soon as a new one comes out everybody abandons the old one. Especially since people would want to see what it was like before the newest one. If the games are that good then theres no reason to "ban" the other ones....Going by your logic: We should take out all of the games that people bought with good money and take it back and make it impossible to buy it because a new one came out (wtf?).

PS: Games do live on forever...If their that good (Counter Strike [1.6])
Last edited by Toasty; Nov 24, 2012 @ 8:52am
BUTCHER Nov 24, 2012 @ 9:07am 

"Look people need to learn that cs and css are dead. If I were valve I would ban these games from steam. The only real problem I have had with csgo since the last patch is there simply aren't enough people playing it. I mean seriously why are there 2.5 times as many people playing a 15 year old game? Because they can thats why. Its essentially free and easy and people don't like change so we need to force it on them. Valve is the only company that just can't get a hold on its community. I like liberal values but sometimes people just need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the third millenium. RANT COMPLETE."

Stellarcrete
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read. It's called freedom of choice.
Last edited by BUTCHER; Nov 24, 2012 @ 9:08am
Stellarcrete Nov 24, 2012 @ 9:47am 
freedom, trolling, you guys don't have any arguement why you are playing the older versions

fact: you can only play one game at a time

fact: two versions of a game are not equal and one must be better than another

fact: by playing the older versions you are saying that csgo is not the better version, YOU ARE WRONG

THAT is logic, next ranter about how CS 1.6 is amazing pls step up
Wounded Wolf Nov 24, 2012 @ 10:06am 
1. Lets be straight up: Sc1 is still around. It's being played exactly where it was the most fun: In LAN parties of friends on friday nights/saturday mornings.

2. CS and CS:S are predecessors that some people really enjoy, and effectively are the same game with different graphic levels, a few more Multiplayer options, and better physics.

3. There are plenty of examples of games that don't shut down support for games after a newer game comes out. The entire Age of Empires line, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Half-life, Halo, etc. Basically, No company shuts off support for their games unless they're going out of business or it is simply a money-pit (ex: APB, which has been closed, reopened, and made F2P).

4. Valve gets use out of their programs. Much like TF2 has become a testing ground for coding and features, CS:S has a long-lived creative Open Source community that provides developers with much needed insight into the wants and needs of gamers.

5. CS:GO is new. Like, brand new in terms of Valve games. Conversion takes time. They've had servers for these games up for over a decade in some cases, another few months won't cripple them.

6. Steam/Valve aren't ♥♥♥♥♥. They're not going to force people to upgrade a game because it'd be convenient. That's not how the industry works. Paying for a game means you are paying for the company to support the software you are purchasing. Failure to provide services for goods is a betrayal that most consumers wouldn't make the mistake of repeating.

7. Consumers aren't stupid, contrary to common belief. People don't buy what they don't see as useful, entertaining, or necessary. Products are meant to fulfill a need. If the need for a Counter Strike game is already satisfied, and CS:GO doesn't provide their interests with enough reasons to buy the new game, they won't buy it. Which is completely understandable in this scenario. Besides competitive play, and a graphics update, what has CS:GO added to its' predecessors?

8. This leads into my final point - People don't want to be locked into a 90 minute commitment. Life happens, and they can't always sit at a desk and play for over an hour. If they agree to, and end up kicked, they're punished for prioritizing reality over pixels. Competitive play is meant for a specific group of people, not the casual masses. If this sounds specific, it is; see following point.

9. Lets be honest about what this thread is: Another player upset about the extended queue times, and not truly interested in bettering the gaming community. Their concern is their own convenience, no matter how many other people are hurt or offended in the process. A word for "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion." is Bigot.
Toasty Nov 24, 2012 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Stellarcrete:
freedom, trolling, you guys don't have any arguement why you are playing the older versions

fact: you can only play one game at a time

fact: two versions of a game are not equal and one must be better than another

fact: by playing the older versions you are saying that csgo is not the better version, YOU ARE WRONG

THAT is logic, next ranter about how CS 1.6 is amazing pls step up
You can go ahead and pass off your selfish opinion as a fact...When in reality some people just prefer the other CS games

OPINION: (game) is better than (game)!
FACT: You are trying to pass this^ off as a fact
Last edited by Toasty; Nov 25, 2012 @ 6:28am
whatever Nov 24, 2012 @ 11:56am 
Here's the real reason: Players are in less developed countries and can't afford or don't want to upgrade their computers.
Last edited by whatever; Nov 24, 2012 @ 11:57am
Professor Cupcake Nov 24, 2012 @ 1:23pm 
I agree with you that the old CS fans do need to be a bit more accepting a lot of the time, but banning the old CS's? Hell no.
For the record though, I do prefer CS:S to GO. No real reason, it just feels better for me.
PhillyTheKid Nov 24, 2012 @ 2:09pm 
People play what they like. Classic CS 1.6 and CSS are just their choice in game. Also, people don't like change that much. That's fine.

It wouldn't be fair for valve to just "ban" 1.6 and Source off of steam just because they release a new game.

And as we all should know.. CS: GO will never be as popular or more popular that 1.6 and Source for a while. CS: GO was released ealier this year, 1.6 and source had been out for years so far.
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