I think I understand the "trust factor" myth now

[Cole]

Certain users claiming you have low trust factor just means your elo rank is too high and since cheaters always win they just keep climbing the rank ladder very fast and which is why some people saying they don't see cheaters simply have ranks too low to encounter most them!

Since you can't see your "trust", despite some wizards claiming to see them, it lead me to this hypothesis.

So in short...

High rank (Light blue, purple, pink) = High chance of having cheaters in matches
Low rank (SIlver) = Low chance of having cheaters in matches

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And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

[ChetHoppens]

I don't have a low trust factor, I have a working, sensitive BS detector. When I spot BS, I have to call it out, report it, etc. With this post, question each person that defends the cheaters, what is their motivation for not seeing your point and equally being mad?
Take your trust factor and shove it, it's obvious they are backing the cheaters. Has to be making money at it to be this blatant.

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Originally posted by ChetHoppens:

I don't have a low trust factor, I have a working, sensitive BS detector. When I spot BS, I have to call it out, report it, etc. With this post, question each person that defends the cheaters, what is their motivation for not seeing your point and equally being mad?
Take your trust factor and shove it, it's obvious they are backing the cheaters. Has to be making money at it to be this blatant.

Nobody is backing or supporting cheaters, the easiest way to avoid having them in games is to have good trust factor so you are not matched with low trust individuals.

[Cole]

Originally posted by 4meGood:

And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

It makes as much sense as your trust factor theory.

[UNKNOWN]

Originally posted by Cole:

Originally posted by 4meGood:

And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

It makes as much sense as your trust factor theory.

Which theory?

[lumina]

Originally posted by Cole:

Originally posted by 4meGood:

And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

It makes as much sense as your trust factor theory.

Except that comes from real stuff. I don't know if they exposed it in CS ever, but they've had it exposed in their other games, like dota 2. If you get reported and leave matches, valves matchmaking puts you with others who leave and get reported. I don't know why it would be different here. It's their way of trying to help the good parts of the community get away from the toxic. And I'd assume most cheaters get reported a lot. And I'm guessing people who come here crying on the forums and getting angry are also the ones who rage in games and get reported a lot. Also the type to claim everyone is cheating. I was accused of cheating twice yesterday and I'm terrible lol.

There are obviously cheaters, but they are likely moving up like you said, as in, well above blue and likely high/above purple. Now, if this was like dota 2 where the high ranks troll each other, it means the smaller communities of pink and high purple all report each other constantly, all have terrible trust factor, and all get mixed with the cheaters anyways. But they'd face them due to low player numbers in those groups no matter what.

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Originally posted by lumina:

Originally posted by Cole:

It makes as much sense as your trust factor theory.

Except that comes from real stuff. I don't know if they exposed it in CS ever, but they've had it exposed in their other games, like dota 2. If you get reported and leave matches, valves matchmaking puts you with others who leave and get reported. I don't know why it would be different here. It's their way of trying to help the good parts of the community get away from the toxic. And I'd assume most cheaters get reported a lot. And I'm guessing people who come here crying on the forums and getting angry are also the ones who rage in games and get reported a lot. Also the type to claim everyone is cheating. I was accused of cheating twice yesterday and I'm terrible lol.

There are obviously cheaters, but they are likely moving up like you said, as in, well above blue and likely high/above purple. Now, if this was like dota 2 where the high ranks troll each other, it means the smaller communities of pink and high purple all report each other constantly, all have terrible trust factor, and all get mixed with the cheaters anyways. But they'd face them due to low player numbers in those groups no matter what.

That's true a lot of accusations of cheating are probably skill issues when the person complaining has no proof that the other person cheated

[Daryl]

Sadly people deliberately spreading the trust factor nonsense just simply don't have a life outside their houses.

I guess their subsidies are working better than the anti cheat because why they would be here otherwise 24/7 with multiple accounts.

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The higher the trust score is the less chances to get matched with cheaters, but the higher the elo is the less effect TF makes due to lower amount of players in general.
Because 20k+ is like less than 5% of players and the game will match people with different trust score together, when in 15k and lower (the noob zone, where 90% of players play) amount of players allows the game to filter many players out.

Originally posted by lumina:

Except that comes from real stuff. I don't know if they exposed it in CS ever, but they've had it exposed in their other games, like dota 2.

As far as I know the behavior rating in Dota2 depends only on behavior in Dota2, while Trust Factor in CS2 collects info also outside of CS2 using Steam account's details, other stats and information.