Why is the CS2 comp rank based on team performance and not individual performance?

[Lo Burattino]

Since the competitive rank we all get is supposed to define your personal level of skill, why exactly then are we demoted or promoted based on the performance of the whole team?

It makes no sense to be punished for having a horrible team while you yourself are actually doing good, same the other way around.

This just forces everyone to play with a premade team, and I don't really have the time or the friends to make an organized team, as most of the playerbase.

[AniMaTiX]

because then noone would care about winning the rounds or the game and all would focus on their kda....so whats the difference from a deathmatch game?

[bLz']

cos u can have 50 fully useless kills, throw the game for your team, and still be topscore whilst not having any impact in any round. because you never went on a spot and just waited for your team to do it baiting them all and getting a few kills.
its also possible to be a good player, but not getting any kills, flashing, smoking and jumping in first with bhop pistols to get entry refrags.

in this case the guy bhopping with 0 kills is far better and far more usefull than the guy who does 50kills after the whole team was alrdy dead 1v4 and still looses the round.

the only thing that matters is if u won the round.
ppl that look at stats are usually pretty bad players.

there are even stats not being displayed in the scoreboard, such as cast and more.


cs isnt built for soloq.
but it still gives you the option cos many ppl still want that option.
play duo trio and lock up one of the two spots on the map.

[Lee]

CS2 has turned into OW2. It will die very fast.

[MAXE]

Originally posted by bLaze':

cs isnt built for soloq.
but it still gives you the option cos many ppl still want that option.
play duo trio and lock up one of the two spots on the map.

1. CS is build for Solo Que aswell
2. The majority of players solo que, duo or tripple cue, so without solo que players we would have alot of teams with only 3 human players and 2 bots, so to avoid that then Solo Que is urgently needed !

3. you can win a match and still derank, if your overall performance was bad compared to your teammates, but that is just so pathetic, because there is so many cheaters in the game that makes the ranking ladders untrustworthy and wich ruins the whole idea about even having ranks in the game !

[Deathtome]

yeah they really should take in to account solo skill and team skill, and they should also have a solo match search option and a premade one.

[Lo Burattino]

Originally posted by bLaze':

cos u can have 50 fully useless kills, throw the game for your team, and still be topscore whilst not having any impact in any round. because you never went on a spot and just waited for your team to do it baiting them all and getting a few kills.
its also possible to be a good player, but not getting any kills, flashing, smoking and jumping in first with bhop pistols to get entry refrags.

in this case the guy bhopping with 0 kills is far better and far more usefull than the guy who does 50kills after the whole team was alrdy dead 1v4 and still looses the round.

the only thing that matters is if u won the round.
ppl that look at stats are usually pretty bad players.

there are even stats not being displayed in the scoreboard, such as cast and more.

considering comp is 5v5, killing is by far one of the most important parts of it, if I had tens of kills by the end of the competitive match, that would certainly mean I brought lots of victories to the team, or at least did my best to make it easier for my teammates to survive, especially considering that about 80% of the rounds are won by killing all of the enemy team.

Also, about the "guy with 0 kills being better" thing, I think M-A-X-E makes a good point

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

3. you can win a match and still derank, if your overall performance was bad compared to your teammates, but that is just so pathetic, because there is so many cheaters in the game that makes the ranking ladders untrustworthy and wich ruins the whole idea about even having ranks in the game

[Samurai×Mo]

It's a team game.

[MaHoneyDE]

Originally posted by Lo Burattino:

Since the competitive rank we all get is supposed to define your personal level of skill, why exactly then are we demoted or promoted based on the performance of the whole team?

It makes no sense to be punished for having a horrible team while you yourself are actually doing good, same the other way around.

This just forces everyone to play with a premade team, and I don't really have the time or the friends to make an organized team, as most of the playerbase.

someone that performs better then his current elo will win more then someone that is performing worse

yes its annoying to lose because of a "bad" team but this and pretty much every other elo system doesnt work for a single game
more games = more accurate elo score

[Lo Burattino]

Originally posted by Samurai×Mo:

It's a team game.

yes but individual ranks

[Let it all out]

Originally posted by Lo Burattino:

Originally posted by Samurai×Mo:

It's a team game.

yes but individual ranks

1984

[Hamless Hog]

In a team based game what good would i be if you can kill more but win less. Its not all about personal performance.

[Let it all out]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

In a team based game what good would i be if you can kill more but win less. Its not all about personal performance.

Then split ranks, one for personal ability, one for team score.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Pumpkin:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

In a team based game what good would i be if you can kill more but win less. Its not all about personal performance.

Then split ranks, one for personal ability, one for team score.

Which would they use?

[Let it all out]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by Pumpkin:

Then split ranks, one for personal ability, one for team score.

Which would they use?

This question makes no sense.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Pumpkin:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Which would they use?

This question makes no sense.

You said split them, split them how? Which one would they use to match you with others?