Thoughts on CS:GO

[camXmile]

All key ideas in one sentence: add new mode with iron sights; add M72, MP5-S, AA-12, S12K; change weapon mechanics to how it's done in R6 Siege; change ammo indicator to how it's been done in CS:S; add body fragmentation; add new factions including female models; make helmet and armor visible on a player model if it has actually been bought; don't match new CS:GO players with players who have played this game for 100+ hrs.

Hi there.

I've played CS:GO for 2500+ hrs and I want to share some of my thoughts with you.
My thoughts are based on my experience in games: Counter-Strike, Crysis, Payday 2, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Quake III Arena, Unreal Tournament III, Battlefield 2, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and many others. Hopefully this will help to improve the game.

Add 2 new game modes: Modern Casual / Competitive (my original suggestion was to change classic modes but apparently there's a lot of people who had not enough of 1.6 gameplay so just leave classic modes as it is and add 2 new ones).

Add aiming using iron sights to "Modern" modes.

"Iron sights" is just a piece of texture. Adding iron sights doesn't mean that you won't be able to hit anything shooting "hipfire". Those who don't like it may continue to play with the usual model drawing. Personally I've played most of the time with r_drawviewmodel 0. This is how they can make it to please everyone: press RMB activates iron sights texture and zoom-in (a bit less than AUG/SG 553 scope) but doesn't change the accuracy at all. So you may spend a second to see the enemy better through iron sights or start shooting right away with the same chance of hitting the enemy.

Make weapon mechanics more realistic in "Modern" modes:

The weapon mechanics is a big disappointment for me. In a real life, when you pull out a pistol (e. g. Glock) you only have to move slide once to put a round into the chamber. In a game you do it (game plays animation) every time you switch to your weapon. Also I wanted to have a double reload feature like they implemented in Crysis. 1st reload - you put a magazine into your pistol/rifle and chamber a round, 2nd reload - you put a round into a magazine and attach it back to your weapon and get +1 round. So this is how I'd like game to work:

[round start (T)] "pull out Glock, pull the slide back and release" animation
[press 3] "show knife" animation
[press 2] "show Glock" animation (pull out pistol without moving the slide)
[press RMB] aim through the iron sights
[press RMB] standard view (hipfire)
[press 2] "thumb moves near the slide" animation (switch to burst fire mode)
[press 2] "thumb moves near the slide" animation (switch to semi-auto mode)
[press R] "extract and insert a magazine" animation (now you have 20 rounds in your magazine and 1 round in a chamber)
[press LMB 20 times] 20 gunshots (now you have 0 rounds in your magazine and 1 round in a chamber)
[press LMB] single gunshot, slide stop holds the action open 'cause the magazine is exhausted
[press 3] "show knife" animation
[press 2] "show Glock with a slide pulled back" animation (pull out pistol without moving the slide)
[press LMB] no animation (nothing happens)
[press R] "extract and insert a magazine, slide release" animation (now you have 19 rounds in your magazine and 1 round in a chamber)
[press R] "extract and insert a magazine" animation (now you have 20 rounds in your magazine and 1 round in a chamber)

Dual Berettas is another big disappointment for me. I haven't played CS:S for a long time because I was fed up with its various problems and played CoD:MW2 instead so it felt very outdated to play with dual berettas. It feels like it's a glock with a 30 round magazine. I really like how you can fire M9 Akimbo (which is dual berettas equivalent in MW2). LMB is fire the pistol in your left hand and RMB is fire your pistol in your right hand. This enables you to shoot both pistols simultaniously. And what's the point of having 2 guns if you can't shoot it at the same time?

You should be able to mount bayonet on a rifle.

After you mount it there should be an option of using "charged" melee attack.

Add more guns.

Since developers added 3 weapons (M4A1-S, USP-S and CZ75) we know that it's possible to add new guns. I'd really like to see these in CS:GO:

S12K (Saiga) Replace Both Teams Nova
Imagine an AK-47 with a rebuilt chamber to house shotgun shells and you have this automatic shotgun.
It fits perfectly between expensive XM1014 and Sawed-Off and can be balanced with less power than XM1014 but more rounds and much quicker reload time. There're 3 pump action shotguns in CS:GO right now, and only 1 that holds rounds in a detachable magazine. And that one is MAG-7, and it's one of those 3 pump action shotguns. In my opinion pump action shotgun is obsolete. It's really dangerous to use it in combat since you need to chamber the next round manually after each shot.

Lupara (sawed-off double barrel shotgun) T Replace Sawed-Off
It is just so much fun to play with it! Basically a 1 shot weapon. If you hit someone firing from both barrels at the same time in close range - they die, you miss - you die. As simple as that.

AA12 CT Replace MAG-7
The AA12 is the newest weapon against the Terror. And it's awesome. And I want it. Add it, Valve! Please!

.44 Revolver Replace Both Teams Desert Eagle
You keep outdated pump action shotguns, but why not add Dirty Harry's favorite?

MP5 Replace Both Teams MP7
I'd like to see MP5 with a detachable silencer like M4A1-S. More accurate, less ammo, less noise. I somewhat miss it...
I'd like it back in a form of a little M4A1-S: just a little bit less damaging to keep the balance.

Even more guns.

Add "Dual Wield" option for all pistols and smgs.

After I buy 1 gun I want to be able buy the same gun again and hold it in both hands. 2 P90s for 4700 is a good alternative to LMG. And a fun one!
Dual P90 picture CS:GO
P90 Akimbo picture MW2

Add RPG Buy->2->6 (next to LMGs).

After I saw this CS:CZ wallpaper I expected to see an RPG in a game. And all these years I have a feeling that there is a place for it in CS. We used to play Return to castle Wolfenstein multiplayer with RPG and flamethrower and it was fun. RPG can be balanced with a 10000 pricetag. I suggest adding a 1-shot RPG like M72 LAW. So you only use it once and continue with a pistol. To be clear, I want M72 that is exactly the same as HE grenade in terms of damage. Just a new skin, animation and more "throw" range.

Physics.

Change movement speed rules.

Okay, I know that this is one of the Counter-Strike "trade marks" - that you can move faster if you switch your primary weapon to secondary and that you move the fastest if you switch to the knife. But it's simply ridiculous. The only proper way is to base movement rules on how much load you carry. And sprint should be limited in time and activated with a "SHIFT" button.
Like this (100 [%] is a weight of human body, 2 - pistol, 6 - rifle, 58 - pistol+mg+armor+helmet):

[round start] bought nothing, weight 102 (pistol equiped)
[hold W] speed 0.98
[hold SHIFT+W] speed 1.96
[hold CTRL+W] speed 0.49
[round start] bought AK47, weight 108 (pistol and ar equiped)
[hold W] speed 0.92
[hold SHIFT+W] speed 1.84
[hold CTRL+W] speed 0.46
[press 2] select pistol
[press G] drop pistol
[hold W] speed 0.94
[hold SHIFT+W] speed 1.88
[hold CTRL+W] speed 0.47
[round start] bought M249 and full armor, weight 158 (pistol, mg, armor and helmet equiped)
[hold W] speed 0.42
[hold SHIFT+W] speed 0.84
[hold CTRL+W] speed 0.21
Developers are more than welcome to make more accurate calculations

Add a Blood & Gore DLC.

I believe that body fragmentation belongs to 1st person shooters.
In a real life, when a bullet from AWP hits a head, head disintegrates.
Here's 1 way how devs may add it
http://store.steampowered.com/app/259800/

Add new player skins.

I'd like to see custom skins for player models, e. g. Saints , Space Marines, 1920s gangsters , etc. Developers can make special "garment" crates.
Also Samurai and XVIII century uniforms would be nice
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=632156948
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=630117601

Make helmet and armor visible on a player model if the player has actually bought it.

I feel that if you've bought a helmet/kevlar vest it should be visible on a player skin. It's stupid and misleading that terrorists never wear helmets even if you bought one. Same with CT. E.g. FBI player skins. Some of FBI wear baseball hats, some have helmets. It should be accurately shown - if a player has bought a helmet - in-game model must have it on. Same with body armor.

Weapon skins.

I just want to mention that if exterior quality says "Factory New" it should look like it's new, it shouldn't just indicate that it has less wear than "Minimal Wear". Look at XM1014 Grassland or FAMAS Spitfire or many other skins. This also makes Bizon Rust Coat Factory New ridiculous. Guns don't come rusty from weapon factories. They should have just made 3 grades for this weapon, like they did for Dual Berettas Demolition.

Add better Rare Special Items.

I mean COME ON why should I or anypony else pay 400 for a Karambit if I can buy 1 in a real life for less than 40 (United Cutlery Honshu)? I want a chainsaw, impact hammer, viking sword, and samurai katana. Rectifier and a giant purple diId0 also would be nice (NEVER leave home without one). And a crowbar is a must.

Ammunition.

Why is it always rifle round picture shown next to ammo indicator? In CS:S we even had caliber written next to correct ammo picture.

Make ammo picture different for pistols, rifles and shotguns.

Overwatch.

Make an upgradable Operation Overwatch coin

Overwatch has been in beta way too long. Make an upgradable Operation Overwatch coin already. 1 case judged correctly grants you a coin, 50 cases for a silver one, 100 cases for gold.
Valve can determine if the Overwatcher is capable of judging cases correctly by adding an Overwatch Exam. Similar to how you get a driving licence. So before you join OW, you are asked to judge 20 cases that were created by Valve and where it is known if a suspect cheated or not. If a candidate gets at least 90% (18/20) correctly - it's a pass, if not - "thanks for your interest in OW". The cases must be chosen from a pool of 100 (or more) cases randomly, so that there would be no way to "cheat" your way into OW. Also after an overwatcher judges 5 cases in a row incorrectly (the majority of OWs decides otherwise) system should ask him to pass the exam again to check if he's still capable to judge cases correctly.
Once we deal with all the hackers watching offline "evidence", make it so we can join online match if someone has reported a cheater and ban him during the game (like we watch live matches in "Watch").

Cheaters.

Let "normal" players play without cheaters.

Do you want to play CS:GO without cheaters? Behold! The solution.
When I play Matchmaking I encounter quite a lot of cheaters, especially during Steam sales. What do those blatant aimbotters and wall-hackers have in common? A new Steam profile with only 10-20 hrs in CS:GO. I suggest matching people in MM not only according to their rank but also to their playtime and number of competitive matches won. So that my team of 5 5-year veteran coin holders with 1K+ hrs each could never again be irritated by a bunch of cheating punks with brand new accounts.
New groups may be set like this:
0-100 hrs
100-250 hrs and at least 10 competitive matches won
250-500 hrs and at least 50 competitive matches won
500+ and 100+ competitive matches won
I rather doubt that you can cheat and avoid a VAC (and/or OW) ban for 500 hrs.
So here's an example.
If you've played, let's say, 300 hrs (and you have won 50 MM matches), MM system will start searching 9 players for you from your group (). If not enough players are available after 5 minutes of waiting it will search in groups and for another 5 minutes. If not enough players are available after 10 minutes of waiting it will search in groups , and for yet another 5 minutes. And only after 15 minutes of searching, if there's still less than 9 people available for a match, system will add group to search.
So to avoid hackers just restart the search after 10 minutes.

Modes.

Deathmatch mode is actually a TDM (Team Deathmatch) and needs to be renamed.

Add a true "Free-for-all" DM mode.

Add CTF mode.

Offline.

Bots.

In CS:S I could set an offline server in a couple of clicks to train with awp against 20 bots armed with pistols. Why do I have to use console to do that in CS:GO?

Let us specify the number of bots before the match starts and weapons that they can use.

Why is this the only game that I can't pause?

Add PAUSE button (for Offline with bots).

Maps.

Add Insertion to active duty group.
I like old CS maps like Dust, Aztec, etc. I like how they were updated for CS:GO. But other game developers are not so lazy and create new great maps. Only 2 maps made it from Quake III Arena to Quake 4, Battlefield has all-new maps every time. Same with CoD. But Counter-Strike is like Dust2:GO. Same maps all these years. This issue is partly addressed with Payback and Bravo, but I'm not entirely happy with the fact that I need to buy passes to play on new maps. I also don't quite like that operations are limited in time.

Initially I was going to write a laudatory article, something like "Good job, Valve", but there's too much I don't like about this game.

P. S.
What has been done so far:
Default USP, M4A1-S, and CZ-75 Auto weapons that are on the ground will show the correct names in "swap for" message.
Added the Chroma Case, that features new finishes for knives. (Added "Damascus Steel" finish in particular)
R8 Revolver added
Coins are hidden if "All Weapons" filter is chosen.

[GrimDaReaper]

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what the ♥♥♥♥ is ems\esl? im mlg mate 420 and i 360noscope i hate twitch\streamers they kill games

EMS and ESL are official Valve and COMMUNITY funded tournaments. Dreamhack too.
(The answer is, no, pro almost never use Nagevs and other weird stuff)

yeah yeah there nerds. people who play for FUN like the game should be played do use odd weapons i can upload replay of a solo lobby going into a game and we all agree to only use knifes. btw istill got no idea what ur talking about im into playing not watching other people. dont even try explain to me its like reading chinesee

[KING]

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We are proud but we should be open to other gamers. If they added an in game option where you could select your kind of gore it wouldn't harm you in any way. For example you can use -nv as your launch options so that instead of bodies falling around dead in corners they lay down with the hands on their head.

i dont understand the need for that kind of complexity or why we should be open to other games but thats just me. the cod style sniper they have for the sg and aug i think makes the gun worse.

It was always there though, since 1.6(or even earlier pretty sure 1.5 had it as well). I feel like a gore update would really occupy like 5-15 more mb on our hard drives, maybe they could even make it some separate free dlc. IMO it's not that much for me to just say no to a relatively part of the community. As I said I'm not into gore but I do want everyone to like cs go. I want to keep the CS series alive for as long as we can. We're gonna grow out of it one day assuming we've both played since launch and really all we can do is welcome new gamers and make compromises to keep the series alive.

[KING]

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EMS and ESL are official Valve and COMMUNITY funded tournaments. Dreamhack too.
(The answer is, no, pro almost never use Nagevs and other weird stuff)

yeah yeah there nerds. people who play for FUN like the game should be played do use odd weapons i can upload replay of a solo lobby going into a game and we all agree to only use knifes. btw istill got no idea what ur talking about im into playing not watching other people. dont even try explain to me its like reading chinesee

Well everyone plays the way they want. Competitive isn't really about using odd guns but by using whatever you can to win. Except when you use the auto or cz's, everyone hates auto's and cz's. xD.

Pro tournaments for cs go are like soccer matches. You can play soccer with your 3 friends and then there's the famous soccer teams that play on tv for millions of people to watch. I'm not really into it all that much but I bet on cs go lounge so I do watch them once in a while.

[camXmile]

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i dont understand the need for that kind of complexity or why we should be open to other games but thats just me. the cod style sniper they have for the sg and aug i think makes the gun worse.

It was always there though, since 1.6(or even earlier pretty sure 1.5 had it as well). I feel like a gore update would really occupy like 5-15 more mb on our hard drives, maybe they could even make it some separate free dlc. IMO it's not that much for me to just say no to a relatively part of the community. As I said I'm not into gore but I do want everyone to like cs go. I want to keep the CS series alive for as long as we can. We're gonna grow out of it one day assuming we've both played since launch and really all we can do is welcome new gamers and make compromises to keep the series alive.

Yeah, and here's a tip how to add it
http://store.steampowered.com/app/259800/

[GrimDaReaper]

btw i use the LMG alot(nearly everygame) and still hit 2nd-1st place just because"pro" u watch dont use it nearly 90% of the comunity use troll weapons. if they add rpg i can asure you it will be used nearly every game round dont see why ur saying look at these super uper pros they dont use lmg so u know ur theroy?> thats prety unfair seeing there about 1% of the comunity.

[僕の名前 (仮)]

Add flamethrower and rocket launcher.
Add pay2win.

[GrimDaReaper]

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yeah yeah there nerds. people who play for FUN like the game should be played do use odd weapons i can upload replay of a solo lobby going into a game and we all agree to only use knifes. btw istill got no idea what ur talking about im into playing not watching other people. dont even try explain to me its like reading chinesee

Well everyone plays the way they want. Competitive isn't really about using odd guns but by using whatever you can to win. Except when you use the auto or cz's, everyone hates auto's and cz's. xD.

Pro tournaments for cs go are like soccer matches. You can play soccer with your 3 friends and then there's the famous soccer teams that play on tv for millions of people to watch. I'm not really into it all that much but I bet on cs go lounge so I do watch them once in a while.

1 i played alot of sports at collage
2 i hate watching any sport all my life. its completly boring. playing it is however FUN .
3 computer game isnt a sport.

[camXmile]

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Add flamethrower and rocket launcher.
Add pay2win.

This thread is about re-skinning, mostly. I'm totally not suggesting adding pay2win. RPG I suggest is basically a HE grenade with more range ("throw" range not damage range) and a huge pricetag.

[Electric]

Valve needs to focus on the real problems and not add more sh!t that will mess with an already buggy product.

[camXmile]

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Yeah, and here's a tip how to add it
http://store.steampowered.com/app/259800/

DLC's are for other games LOL....

I dont know man, this thread hurts my soul... I think I'm going to stop replying.

This is the way to keep kids away from blood and gore if you care about that sort of thing.
You are 18+, you have a credit card, you buy what you want, you pay for what you want. I'd buy that. I want to "experience the violent horror of the" modern world.
1st post updated btw.

[GrimDaReaper]

woudlnt it be better to show kids the gore of real life so they dont do it in real life... logic

shoots some one head with a 50 cal in game persons head intact no blood.
applys it to real life person explodes intestines and brain with blood everwhere
kid freaks out and killshimself

[camXmile]

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This is the way to keep kids away from blood and gore if you care about that sort of thing.
You are 18+, you have a credit card, you buy what you want, you pay for what you want. I'd buy that.

i understand why you want it, i just dont understand any need to add it to this game.

They need to add this 1) to earn money to fix existing issues 2) 'cause i'm not the only one who wants this (that's why CA added those packs to their games) 3) more players will play CS because it will be more appealing to them.

[camXmile]

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woudlnt it be better to show kids the gore of real life so they dont do it in real life... logic

shoots some one head with a 50 cal in game persons head intact no blood.
applys it to real life person explodes intestines and brain with blood everwhere
kid freaks out and killshimself

Yeah, we (or rather, kids) should learn something useful about life from games. In this case you may learn about the devastating power of .50 cal and add it to their whishlist for x-mas.

[GrimDaReaper]

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woudlnt it be better to show kids the gore of real life so they dont do it in real life... logic

development doesnt necessarily work l ike that haha. but its a good thought process.

i played alot of FPS and then i watched rambo the lastest one where he goes on a 50 cal and makes a bunch of aking noob scrubs explode rip there leggs in half then he Knifes a boss at the end rips his intestines out and then his head why the ♥♥♥♥ isnt this in csgo?

50cal snaper rilfe is scary

also the d egal in real life would make you fly back in game why when i shoot some one with a egal they only get dammaged 48? they should be footless or leggless or armless ...

[camXmile]

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development doesnt necessarily work l ike that haha. but its a good thought process.

i played alot of FPS and then i watched rambo the lastest one where he goes on a 50 cal and makes a bunch of aking noob scrubs explode rip there leggs in half then he Knifes a boss at the end rips his intestines out and then his head why the ♥♥♥♥ isnt this in csgo?

I ask myself that same question every day. Thank you!