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Maxwell Oct 10, 2024 @ 1:56pm
Packet loss issue
Help.
I got:
201.61mbps download
94.15mbps upload
300fps

but navigate between 5-30% packet loss up/down without much interuption.
Any idea ?
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AK-47 Oct 10, 2024 @ 1:56pm 
I have the same problem
bAd a!m Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:01pm 
I've experienced the same, both on wireless or LAN
haven't found a fix yet
peon Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:03pm 
Bufferbloat occurs when too many data packets are queued in a router's buffer waiting to be sent. While buffering is needed to reduce data packet loss, overly large buffers lead to greater delays and poor performance. It is not well understood how large a buffer should be, nor how size affects network performance.

Use something like waveform to do a test and pay attention to your jitter during the large packet transmissions. If your getting over 3m/s on the upload, its likely because your router/connection is struggling to transmit all these packets when its using the max up bandwith and it starts to lag out. If you cap that up bandwith so it doesnt max out your connection, it will allow the packets to keep moving instead of piling up on the backend.

I guess if your router supports smart queue management quality of service, thats a easier solution.

It definitely worked for me, didnt stop me from dying behind walls (without the feed icon) or shooting blanks though. Feels about 50% of my shots go into the nether. In fact the better I aim, the worse it feels, really strange.

The packets are prolly fine on valves fiber optic connections and 1000$ commercial hardware. But for some average plebs like us with a capped cable connection, the packets are degrading performance and I dont understand why it hasnt been fixed yet.

I suspect that vac 3.0 has something to do with it, but I have no proof of that.

You can see people have been complaining about how much data csgo, cs2 have been using for years. Prolly around the time they started vac 2.0 im betting.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3952532399700292351/
Last edited by peon; Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:05pm
GrosSingeDodu Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:09pm 
delete the game and play smth better
peon Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:18pm 
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/What_can_I_do_about_Bufferbloat/

This is prolly the best explanation I have found so far.

Im actually using one of the custom firmwares listed there, but it doesnt actually support SQM, but for whatever reason limiting bandwith on all clients and then making a special rule to up it on mine fixed the issue. I guess I got lucky or something. I guess my router does support it but when enabling the different qos options, none of them worked without having to manually tag connections and specify types, that was my next step.

Key notes here.

Your ISP would love to sell you a faster connection, but link speed isn’t the problem - it’s your router buffering more data than necessary. This adds delay that can never be cured by faster transmission rates.

Buying an expensive router (even one for “gaming”) won’t necessarily help, since many commercial, off-the-shelf router manufacturers are clueless about excess buffering in their routers.

Twiddling the router’s QoS might make a difference, but it’s a hassle, and only helps a bit.

In the end we have very little control over this issue because its valve who has control over the size of packets. I was just lucky enough that I was able to fix my problem.

I assume they will patch soon but you never know with this company.

Solutions mentioned on the page.

*Enable SQM settings if your router already has them.

*Install an off-the-shelf router with SQM

*Upgrade your current router with custom firmware.

*Call your router vendor’s support line

Good resource for limiting your bandwith.

https://np.reddit.com/r/opnsense/comments/15awkpm/bufferbloat_what_bandwidth_settings_to_use/

On the router, remember it's recommended to set download to 10-20% lower than line speed. So with 600/600 (lucky you!), your limits should be roughly 520/560.

Yeah that sounds pretty close to the settings I used. For the upload as well, It was way easier than trying to learn the SQM settings.
Last edited by peon; Oct 10, 2024 @ 2:27pm
Maxwell Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Thank you Peon, I'll check your answere and let you know if anything worked for me.
I'm also usualy dying behin walls without the feed icon so our issue is probably the same + this issue was not occuring before I stoped playing in february, so indeed maybe linked to VAC update (however I still have encountered a rage hacker recently lol).
Last edited by Maxwell; Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:31am
4fun4 Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:21am 
same here and i stoped enjoying this sht game, valve clearly isnt doing and wont be doing anything to fix it, i suppose best thing is to delete this ass game and go play tetris or minecraft. Hackers, laggs, ghost bullets, random sht that should not happen, yeah valve ban me for this but in reality f you for real. Game is total mess from all points of view just thrash
Maxwell Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by 4fun4:
same here and i stoped enjoying this sht game, valve clearly isnt doing and wont be doing anything to fix it, i suppose best thing is to delete this ass game and go play tetris or minecraft. Hackers, laggs, ghost bullets, random sht that should not happen, yeah valve ban me for this but in reality f you for real. Game is total mess from all points of view just thrash
We are not here to talk about the game quality, but to find out solution for this issue, despite the fact that what are you saying is mainly true.
Last edited by Maxwell; Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:39am
4fun4 Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:52am 
well i know but u cant fix it, for 1 player 1 thing works, for other 2nd , for 3rd players 3rd thing, kinda doesnt make any sense. if u make game then make it not scribble something in code and pray for god it will work. i understand ur statement but like do we really care that much about game that even devs have toilet paper with cs2 on it?
Xanderoh Oct 11, 2024 @ 11:00am 
what the flip
Lobo Estepario Oct 11, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Delete game and play valorant
Rasmus Oct 13, 2024 @ 4:37am 
+
sonicw4ll Oct 13, 2024 @ 12:01pm 
They ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. I ll literally uninstall this game.
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