How is this game skill-based?

[shelledfade]

For example, from what I've experienced it all comes down to whoever gets a luckier spread in close/medium range engagements. Even if your crosshair is dead center on whatever you're attacking, it doesn't seem to matter even in controlled bursts, it seems like the spread is the only thing that actually matters and from what I've seen that's largely based on luck rather than skill. (even when bursting your guns spread doesn't return to normal instantly between shots)

I mean, you run into somebody from around a corner, I fire while my crosshair is on the guys leg and somehow magically get a headshot, or maybe my crosshair is slightly to the left of their head and boom headshot... yet when I have perfect 100% aim as in the crosshair is directly on their head I never win close/medium engagements. I mean, it seems entirely based on luck lol.

Sure, long range fights where you're controlling shots are obviously down to who has better aim, its these medium/close range fights that are absolutely driving me effing insane. I just can't agree with these mechanics at all. I mean from 15 feet away from someone even if you went full auto with an ak-47 that should kill them relatively quickly but most of the time you're lucky if you can even hit them with 3 or 4 shots even if you're controlling the recoil... lol maybe it's just me and I'm lagging with 30 ping somehow but I just don't get it. I just don't understand how this game could possibly be an e-sport when its more about luck than skill. Sure, if you're a sniper I can appreciate good aim but I just don't get the rest of it at all. It seems completely broken.

[naMja]

引用自 Shelledfade：

引用自 Ender：

that means you have not mastered the recoil, this should help http://imgur.com/a/m1pz2#22

You don't seem to be reading what I'm typing. If my crosshair is ON the other players model when I'm firing, that's pretty much controlling the recoil is it not? Or are you saying the bullets are going to go somewhere else other than where my crosshair is pointing, so I should aim at their legs to get a headshot or something idiotic ?

You don't seem to be reading what HE'S saying. Doesn't matter if your crosshair is ON the other player's model if you're not CONTROLLING the damn shot. Only the first 2 shots of an ak are accurate to the crosshair, afterwards, you pull your mouse slightly to the right then to the left to control the recoil. This will hit the player BUT THE CROSSHAIR WONT BE ON THE PLAYER. YOU ARE USING THE RECOIL OF THE GUN TO SHOOT AS CLOSE TO THE PERSON AS POSSIBLE. So yes, it is skill-based, and very hard to master.

[Xenodevil]

lol 14 hours trying to tell us about the game mechanics that consist entirely of luck hahahahahaha cya kid

[ys]

COD is a walk in the park compared to CS

[undefined]

The definition of skill: Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed 'through training and experience'.

To succeed in a CS game you have to learn the recoil patterns of the weapons and compensate for them by dragging your mouse downward as you fire. By definition CS:GO is definitely skill-based.

It just sounds like you are frustrated with a mechanic that is new to you that you don't quite have a grasp on yet.

[sync]

OP, practice more. This is CS, not any other dumb shooter (COD, BF?) where you can brainless shoot eveyrhing and kill everyhing just by choosing targets with the mouse (sounds dumb right?), much like fps browsers games from miniclip where recoil and physics are 0.


CS is a much harder game to master and people like you are like that: , then the hate for the game starts, it's not the game fault, it's yours, simply try to get better.

[☯.leesh1 ☯]

OP needs a little practice :D

[Scratchie]

Well the problem OP is running into is that he is not a veteran of competitive gaming. For the old school gamers like myself that grew up on counter strike 1.5/1.6 we got to see video games separate themselves from a simple hobby into a e-sport. It was games like counter strike, Starcraft and quake that created competitive gaming. If it wasn't for those three games then you wouldn't have the tournaments you see today ranging from super smash bros to call of duty. CS:GO is your modern day original counter strike. Part of what made CS separate the pro's from the casuals was mastering the hidden recoil. If you can not respect the mechanics behind counter strike then you do not deserve to play a game like this that shows such a deep respect to the birth of competitive gaming.

As others have mentioned OP has the most playtime invested in call of duty. If that is your cup of tea then I highly recommend you stick with the flavor you enjoy the most. If you want to taste something new that you are not accustomed to then I recommend you do a bit of research next time before you fill your cup up with it.

[mako]

引用自 -= LSA =- Mr Scratch：

Well the problem OP is running into is that he is not a veteran of competitive gaming. For the old school gamers like myself that grew up on counter strike 1.5/1.6 we got to see video games separate themselves from a simple hobby into a e-sport. It was games like counter strike, Starcraft and quake that created competitive gaming. If it wasn't for those three games then you wouldn't have the tournaments you see today ranging from super smash bros to call of duty. CS:GO is your modern day original counter strike. Part of what made CS separate the pro's from the casuals was mastering the hidden recoil. If you can not respect the mechanics behind counter strike then you do not deserve to play a game like this that shows such a deep respect to the birth of competitive gaming.

As others have mentioned OP has the most playtime invested in call of duty. If that is your cup of tea then I highly recommend you stick with the flavor you enjoy the most. If you want to taste something new that you are not accustomed to then I recommend you do a bit of research next time before you fill your cup up with it.

WHAT?!?! Super smash bros is an esport?!?!

[Jimmi.]

If you want your bullets to go where the crosshair aims ... Counter-strike is not the game for you ... All you guys want to play an fps game and you buy cs:go coz it costs only 10euros and complaining about it all the time.. So just learn to play cs:go or go buy BF4 or call of duty ...

[SHON]

Play it for more than 15 hours and you'll see it's NOTHING BUT SKILL based.

[Whiskey_inthejar]

引用自 Shelledfade：

引用自 Ender：

How is it luck if the spread doesn't change? the spread is not random and can be controlled and mastered.

if your crosshair is dead center on whatever your intended target is, and the spread is sending bullets flying everywhere BUT where your crosshair is, how is that controlled and/or mastered lol ? It's luck, and its also ridiculously unrealistic when your bullet comes out of your gun and hits the ground 4 feet away from you.

haha ya!

[Whiskey_inthejar]

fukcing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Whiskey_inthejar]

引用自 DRAMA LLAMA：

Don't run when you are shooting...

引用自 Shelledfade：

if your crosshair is dead center on whatever your intended target is, and the spread is sending bullets flying everywhere BUT where your crosshair is, how is that controlled and/or mastered lol ? It's luck, and its also ridiculously unrealistic when your bullet comes out of your gun and hits the ground 4 feet away from you.

omg u must be a dumb lama

[Whiskey_inthejar]

引用自 Shelledfade：

引用自 Ender：

The first two bullets are generally accurate if you are standing still, after that you have to move your crosshair to adjust your aim due to recoil.

what you're saying is the recoil isn't actually a part of the shooting, its just a tacked on gimmick that makes the spread overly ridiculous, because "recoil management" is easy if my crosshair is still dead center on someone yet the bullets are going way off, what you're saying is that I need to point the crosshair somewhere else other than on the player model because of the spread, which is idiotic.

haha

[ɔɯsǝpɐlq]

Go back to playing CoD! Learn to adapt to the game's mechanics or gtfo.

On a more... helpful note, each weapon has it's own spray pattern, along with the fact that when you are walking, the spray will be VERY wide. Try crouching when shooting. Jumping is HOPELESS when you are trying to take out opponents.