VacNet 3.0 is now being activated

[Zell]

So everyone who said it was active, sit. You were wrong we were right.

[deranking]

VAC has been working well the entire time, I have never had a cheater in the past few months of playing this game.

[Zell]

Originally posted by 綾小路 清隆:

VAC has been working well the entire time, I have never had a cheater in the past few months of playing this game.

Dude, give it up. It was never active. It's only being activated now in the latest patch notes. SIT and READ.

[elite outsider]

celebrating early is probably unwise. i hope it works out too but i'll believe it when i see it!

[Alkaza]

sure says person with a vac ban.....

[Zell]

Originally posted by elite outsider:

celebrating early is probably unwise. i hope it works out too but i'll believe it when i see it!

I am just happy that I was right in the end. All I care about, this game is dead anyway. I basically only play it when I want to feel something opposed to cutting myself.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Originally posted by 綾小路 清隆:

VAC has been working well the entire time, I have never had a cheater in the past few months of playing this game.

Dude, give it up. It was never active. It's only being activated now in the latest patch notes. SIT and READ.

The fact it's called 3.0 implies we were dealing with 1.0 and 2.0 before these (and everything in between). So it was indeed working before all that. It's just clearly being updated as all anti-cheats tend to do.

[Zell]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Dude, give it up. It was never active. It's only being activated now in the latest patch notes. SIT and READ.

The fact it's called 3.0 implies we were dealing with 1.0 and 2.0 before these (and everything in between). So it was indeed working before all that. It's just clearly being updated as all anti-cheats tend to do.

Yes, I know this. But it was clearly being bypassed on a massive scale which also implies the latest cheats, in fact worked while it was active. Making the v1.0 and v2.0, non-operable. Like anti-cheats, cheats get updated too.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Originally posted by Valerie:

The fact it's called 3.0 implies we were dealing with 1.0 and 2.0 before these (and everything in between). So it was indeed working before all that. It's just clearly being updated as all anti-cheats tend to do.

Yes, I know this. But it was clearly being bypassed on a massive scale which also implies the latest cheats, in fact worked while it was active. Making the v1.0 and v2.0, non-operable. Like anti-cheats, cheats get updated too.

I'm sure it still got people. You could still see the every so often, "Banned for no reason???" threads every day. Again though, the game of cheat and anti-cheat is cat and mouse.

I'm more surprised they even mentioned testing it at all since they're usually so hush hush about giving cheaters heads up when new adjustments are being made to their systems like this.

[Zell]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Yes, I know this. But it was clearly being bypassed on a massive scale which also implies the latest cheats, in fact worked while it was active. Making the v1.0 and v2.0, non-operable. Like anti-cheats, cheats get updated too.

I'm sure it still got people. You could still see the every so often, "Banned for no reason???" threads every day. Again though, the game of cheat and anti-cheat is cat and mouse.

I'm more surprised they even mentioned testing it at all since they're usually so hush hush about giving cheaters heads up when new adjustments are being made to their systems like this.

You also have to take into account how backlogged the anti-cheat actually is. Those bans could have been from MONTHS ago prior to their posts. VAC never, ever, works that fast.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Originally posted by Valerie:

I'm sure it still got people. You could still see the every so often, "Banned for no reason???" threads every day. Again though, the game of cheat and anti-cheat is cat and mouse.

I'm more surprised they even mentioned testing it at all since they're usually so hush hush about giving cheaters heads up when new adjustments are being made to their systems like this.

You also have to take into account how backlogged the anti-cheat actually is. Those bans could have been from MONTHS ago prior to their posts. VAC never, ever, works that fast.

It can and has a few times. I've seen accounts made a week ago, zero hours on record and still got banned within 100 hours of playing the game. There's currently a thread today of someone having like 180 hours (probably less 'cuz it's not taking into consideration idling/searching/etc) that got a ban few days ago.

It is rare though yes. Let's just hope this new update to the system can keep up.

[elite outsider]

and it's silly that it works so slowly

they gain nothing by letting people continue to cheat and ruin games while the report feature is basically like the 'close door' button in elevators (not wired to anything, only there to make impatient people feel better)

if they can detect a cheat and mark people for banning, it means that cheat is detectable so the developers have to advance one more notch .. may as well ban right away and hurry up the inevitable, letting the same players ruin games doesn't help valve deal with cheating at all (given that the cheat they're using is already detectable)

funny to think of the circular logic, somehow this eludes people though

[Zell]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

You also have to take into account how backlogged the anti-cheat actually is. Those bans could have been from MONTHS ago prior to their posts. VAC never, ever, works that fast.

It can and has a few times. I've seen accounts made a week ago, zero hours on record and still got banned within 100 hours of playing the game. There's currently a thread today of someone having like 180 hours (probably less 'cuz it's not taking into consideration idling/searching/etc) that got a ban few days ago.

It is rare though yes. Let's just hope this new update to the system can keep up.

Blatant cheating will always be banned swiftly no matter what anti cheat it is. There is a cache log of types of cheats instant detected, obviously you know this.

[Vaulty]

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Originally posted by Valerie:

It can and has a few times. I've seen accounts made a week ago, zero hours on record and still got banned within 100 hours of playing the game. There's currently a thread today of someone having like 180 hours (probably less 'cuz it's not taking into consideration idling/searching/etc) that got a ban few days ago.

It is rare though yes. Let's just hope this new update to the system can keep up.

Blatant cheating will always be banned swiftly no matter what anti cheat it is. There is a cache log of types of cheats instant detected, obviously you know this.

That's not how it works, anticheats don't care about individual performance. Playing with a detected cheat even if you barely use it will end up in a ban.

Last one to use performance as factor was EA with Battlefield 1 or 5, but then they stopped quickly after people got banned for literally being too good

[elite outsider]

Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:

Originally posted by ♡ Itz Taki ♡:

Blatant cheating will always be banned swiftly no matter what anti cheat it is. There is a cache log of types of cheats instant detected, obviously you know this.

That's not how it works, anticheats don't care about individual performance. Playing with a detected cheat even if you barely use it will end up in a ban.

Last one to use performance as factor was EA with Battlefield 1 or 5, but then they stopped quickly after people got banned for literally being too good

now they have the easily abused report system to handle that part (and take the blame off their hands)

[dog]

VAC was always very effective but it's good that they are always updating it