Do you guys actually like esports?

[Winblows]

Do you guys actually like esports?
This has nothing to do with me just always wondered if the average person actually likes esports, or is it an other cod skin unlocking thing where people dont really enjoy it it just occupies there time

like would you say there's a time during or after playing a game competitively that you are actually happy or happy it happened? or would you say esports just occupies your time?

I dont really care about esports celebrities opinions on this since they are making money from it.

[Vault Hunter 101]

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Escrito originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

Not all sports are movement intensive. Most sports aren't. And many sports have people with suboptimal weight. And many eSport player actually are quite healthy and they even have a food plan because when the body is healthy the brain is more healthy aswell leading to better and more consistant performances even in just video games.

all sports are movement intensive

Not all
Chess,Checkers, Darts, Snooker, Archery, Golf, Shooting etc

All of them require little movement and are as valid as other sports

[dog]

Escrito originalmente por Vault Hunter 101:

Escrito originalmente por zog:

all sports are movement intensive

Not all
Chess,Checkers, Darts, Snooker, Archery, Golf, Shooting etc

All of them require little movement and are as valid as other sports

You have to move your arms

[Alkaza]

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Escrito originalmente por Vault Hunter 101:

Not all
Chess,Checkers, Darts, Snooker, Archery, Golf, Shooting etc

All of them require little movement and are as valid as other sports

You have to move your arms

that's very valid point.

[Vault Hunter 101]

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Escrito originalmente por Vault Hunter 101:

Not all
Chess,Checkers, Darts, Snooker, Archery, Golf, Shooting etc

All of them require little movement and are as valid as other sports

You have to move your arms

They are simple movements, it's not "intensive". And original subtopic was about sportsmen with suboptimal weight. There are and have been plenty of sportsmen that are overweight or simply considered living a "not healthy" livestyle.

[elite outsider]

when asked if they like esports, trolls arrive to restart 30 year old arguments about what esports means, confuse things about athletics etc

they didn't ask how you define it, they asked if you like it. say whether or not you like it.

very sad to see it working once again

[Stoque]

If real sports can get away with having a couch potato beardneck audience, then by esports can have them too.

[Hamsterpeek]

Escrito originalmente por Irene ❤:

Who defines what is a sport and what isn't?

It's the Olympic Committee. To them chess is a sport as it needs strategy and endurance. There is also prize money and reputation. In that logic poker is a sport. Gamble is sports. Even going to work is sports. Dad's going to sports hard today in the office - fighting his business competitors with both mind planning and physical work.

Obviously the committee will not recognize my example as sports. Therefore the question is what makes them accept and reject? In Paris 2024 I see Skateboarding and break dance becoming a new sport event. Maybe yoyo will also become an olympic sport someday. What is the passing requirement to be an official sport?

I've googled and their charter says "Blending with culture and education,
Olympism seeks to create a way of life based on the joy of effort, the educational
value of good example, social responsibility and respect for internationally
recognised human rights".

Ok, so one of the requirement is "educational value of good example". If school wouldn't teach about gamble, then poker is not recognized as sports. Today there are community clubs and schools to teach break dance and skateboard, so it's accepted as sports now. Henceforth gaming and e-sports is not recognized by the real sports community. Unless people spend money to build those schools and offers a diploma in counter-strike. I'd be the first to sign up because it's now a new cool sport.

I don't know why you think the olympics committee has anything to say about it. It is just a company like any other one.

Also eSport is officially seen as spirt for over 10 years now. I remember back then it was officially seen as that and every newspaper was filled with that. And also a lot of professional sport institutes who for example play footbaln on the highest level have a team for eSport aswell.

One example:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Schalke_04_(E-Sport)

That is one of the biggest sports clubs in the world and they also have an eSports team since 2016 in Fifa, LoL and former PES.

It isn't even a discussion. You overthink way too much. Esports exists and eSport is sports. And everyone who played any sport on a professional level like me knows why it is seen as sport. Casual people completely forget what awareness it takes to be professional in either esport or a non-intensive-moving sport. The brain is working a lot in spirts like poker, chess or counter strike and it is proven that you burn a lot of calories when doing stuff like that. Obviously not as much as running 12 km in a football match in 90 minutes while sprinting 30 times and having physical duells with other player etc. but still.

That is the sad part, something we can call dunning kruger effect. People who aren't part of something on a high level don't understand that thing. That's also why many think football player usually are seen as less intelligent while studies have shown that football player are very intelligent because they have to think forward in three demensional space and understand the deepth of field very well.

Tl:dr
Esports is officially seen as sport, those who disagree just have dunning kruger effect who never had any connection to any professional sport either as an active player/person nor nearby it. That isn't up to doscussion. What is up to discussion is if you like CS as an eSport or not and everyone can have their own opinion about it. In my opinion it is very attractive to watch like football, icehockey and other stuff. What I don't like for example is handball, basketball etc. and that's again just personal taste.

[Jar Traahd]

I like to see competitions where people push each other, and themselves, to be better and also push the boundaries of what is humanly possible. It's also fascinating to see when someone suddenly comes along, who just has a completely different take on how to do things, and everyone have to adapt to this new evolution of the meta.

Getting better at one thing, can also help build confidence to try to be better at other things.
I know I can't go pro, never could in 'real' sports either, but getting better at something is rewarding and I find that working with a team, to accomplish a goal, is fun.

Esports opened this door for a lot of people, who might not be born with the physical abilities to compete in 'real' sports.
When I look at many pro games, I see a few guys who might not have the athleticism to make money from physical sports.
I really think that's awesome.
Sponsors are a necessary part of this, but I don't like seeing partnerships with things like gambling sites and recruitment for governments.

I'm happy when I have teammates around my own skill-level, that want to teamwork and the game isn't a stomp to either side.

[Ancient Oldie]

Escrito originalmente por Winblows:

Do you guys actually like esports?
This has nothing to do with me just always wondered if the average person actually likes esports, or is it an other cod skin unlocking thing where people dont really enjoy it it just occupies there time

like would you say there's a time during or after playing a game competitively that you are actually happy or happy it happened? or would you say esports just occupies your time?

I dont really care about esports celebrities opinions on this since they are making money from it.

It depends on the game being played. People tend to call every multiplayer game E-sport nowadays.

[PatchAdams]

I like it, though I don't enjoy how most of the sponsors are gambling companies. I will even watch games I barely play, like Siege.

I also don't watch it as much as physical sports like soccer (football) and (ice) hockey. But I don't think it's any less legitimate.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Escrito originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

I always enjoyed it and thanks to the best commentator in sports history (in my opinion) it's one of the most attractive sports to watch.

I agree.