Overwatch - Mirage Wall Glitch

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I just had a suspect that played legitly, but glitched into the wall at mirage near B-Spot.

Is this a positiv case of griefing? What do you guys say?

[hoid]

ValvE didnt said nothing about that bug

[Fyndir]

Yes, I think it is.

[Spike Spiegel]

Yes, it's griefing

[Hegemon]

Publicado originalmente por 5061756C:

I just had a suspect that played legitly, but glitched into the wall at mirage near B-Spot.

Is this a positiv case of griefing? What do you guys say?

If it's a map glitch - then no. At least I think so.

[ToxicCar™]

it is a known map glitch. people go there to save. did the player go there to save or was he trolling his team? that is what you have to ask yourself

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Publicado originalmente por Huku⚖DragonLore:

If it's a map glitch - then no. At least I think so.

That's what I thought too, but its obviously a pretty hard glitch,
invisible, unattackable, through wall vision...

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Publicado originalmente por ToxicCar™:

it is a known map glitch. people go there to save. did the player go there to save or was he trolling his team? that is what you have to ask yourself

Nice answer so far. But nothing. He is CT -> Bomb get planted. -> He killed one from INSIDE. -> He gets outside and then frags 2 guys onspot and defused. It pretty much decided the round.

[w0t]

Publicado originalmente por 5061756C:

Publicado originalmente por Huku⚖DragonLore:

If it's a map glitch - then no. At least I think so.

That's what I thought too, but its obviously a pretty hard glitch,
invisible, unattackable, through wall vision...

Unattackable? i dont think so....

[Zorp]

Was he griefing his teammates?
Technically bug abusing is not griefing as long as it doesnt harm your team

[Hegemon]

Also most likely it will be patched with next update.

I would vote Insufficient for that glitch.

[Zorp]

Publicado originalmente por Huku⚖DragonLore:

Also most likely it will be patched with next update.

I would vote Insufficient for that glitch.

Its ridiculous... how long can it take to fix a simple glitch?
I mean you can just place a box in front of the spot and the bug is fixed

[Duff]

Doesn't matter if he saved or not. Its griefing.

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OK. Voted Insufficient in every point now. Thanks for your help in being a responsible Overwatcher.

[Fyndir]

The definition / criteria for griefing for Overwatch is that the suspect displayed behaviour that was 'disruptive, anti-competitive, or anti-social'. I would say that abusing a map glitch to see / shoot through normally solid walls qualifies.

It's not just getting behind the wall to protect yourself, it gives you vision right into B site that you would not normally have, without peeking the area and risking getting shot / spotted yourself.

[Capt. Who]

Publicado originalmente por Fyndir:

The definition / criteria for griefing for Overwatch is that the suspect displayed behaviour that was 'disruptive, anti-competitive, or anti-social'. I would say that abusing a map glitch to see / shoot through normally solid walls qualifies.

It's not just getting behind the wall to protect yourself, it gives you vision right into B site that you would not normally have, without peeking the area and risking getting shot / spotted yourself.

Agreed, if it impacted gameplay then yes i would vote for the griefing as it is disruptive, and/or anti-competitive, if he was just going there, lets say, after rounds ended or such, where it didn't affect the game then I would vote insufficient.

Since you said it won him the round I would vote to convict next time.