VAC ban problem

[Pasta]

Ok I like the VAC ban thing and everything dont get me wrong. But I think there is some stuff that is wrong with it.

1. You could have an amazing match and get reported and get banned even though you didnt hack. Its like saying you are to good for this game, get out.

2. They could fix this by telling the rank of the player, and also the ranks of the other players with the guy.

3. Valve could put in a screen recorder that records exactly what the player is seeing only in CSGO and not outside of it. Also a voice and chat reorder/copier so the ovwrwatch person can see what they are saying and speaking in chat.

4. Apparently if you are a gold nova of any sort and you have over 150 comp wins, then you can deal with the overwatch reports. They could make it Global Elite and 1 or 2 ranks lower than that only that can do overwatch reports.

I wrote this in a hurry and if you guys can come up with any more reasons, then comment below. I have over 700 hours on this game, so this is not a noob post. Thanks!

[anon_omis]

You won't get a VAC ban for being reported once. You have to be reported many times for Overwatch to even look at you. Then several Overwatch members have to vote beyond a reasonable doubt that you were hacking. THEN it gets passed on to valve who goes over it again and makes the final decision if you were hacking or not.

[mariannette]

FYI VAC doesnt ban from reports, it bans from checks of modification of certain game files. Might wanna change your first reason already.

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Anon Omis původně napsal:

You won't get a VAC ban for being reported once. You have to be reported many times for Overwatch to even look at you. Then several Overwatch members have to vote beyond a reasonable doubt that you were hacking. THEN it gets passed on to valve who goes over it again and makes the final decision if you were hacking or not.

Icymountain původně napsal:

FYI VAC doesnt ban from reports, it bans from checks of modification of certain game files. Might wanna change your first reason already.

Ik guys. like I said I wrote this in a rush. If you have multiple good games or something and they believe you are hacking, then oh well you cant do anything about people reporting you can you?
These are mainly ideas to make overwatch better. Ik I didnt word it right.

[anon_omis]

Overwatch is good the way it is. Overwatch memberes also have rankings depending on how they do their job. If someone thinks that someone who isn't cheating is, they lose a bit of their power in making the decision to ban or not.

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Anon Omis původně napsal:

Overwatch is good the way it is. Overwatch memberes also have rankings depending on how they do their job. If someone thinks that someone who isn't cheating is, they lose a bit of their power in making the decision to ban or not.

I am not saying overwatch is bad. I am saying these things would make it way better for tough decisions. Like if you get a lucky double headshot through smoke or something.

[anon_omis]

Kim Jong Un původně napsal:

Anon Omis původně napsal:

Overwatch is good the way it is. Overwatch memberes also have rankings depending on how they do their job. If someone thinks that someone who isn't cheating is, they lose a bit of their power in making the decision to ban or not.

I am not saying overwatch is bad. I am saying these things would make it way better for tough decisions. Like if you get a lucky double headshot through smoke or something.

Have you actually ever watched someone do an Overwatch session? (not trying to be rude. Just asking)

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Anon Omis původně napsal:

Kim Jong Un původně napsal:

I am not saying overwatch is bad. I am saying these things would make it way better for tough decisions. Like if you get a lucky double headshot through smoke or something.

Have you actually ever watched someone do an Overwatch session? (not trying to be rude. Just asking)

I have. There have been tough decisions that they couldnt conclude on, and these things would make the decisions so much easier and CS:GO would be free of hackers with this.

[anon_omis]

Kim Jong Un původně napsal:

Anon Omis původně napsal:

Have you actually ever watched someone do an Overwatch session? (not trying to be rude. Just asking)

I have. There have been tough decisions that they couldnt conclude on, and these things would make the decisions so much easier and CS:GO would be free of hackers with this.

It's impossible for the game to ever be free of hackers. Having voice and text chat readable to overwatch members makes no sense. First, you're assuming that they are going to speak in a language that the overwatch member knows. Second, it defeats the purpous of anonymity. People will say each others steam names.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Good Lord. Reports DO NOT cause VAC bans. However if you get reported enough, it will cause VAC to scan your system more.

[Grizzledorf]

OP has no idea what he is talking about..

he think VAC actually has something to do with the report system.... it does not...

[Grizzledorf]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| původně napsal:

Good Lord. Reports DO NOT cause VAC bans. However if you get reported enough, it will cause VAC to scan your system more.

umm where did you find this info? as far as i know reports deal with overwatch system.... vac does not have anything to do with overwatch system.


i would bet that reports will never ever cause vac to change how it scans a person. also vac does not scan your system... it scans the vac secured game that your currently running to see if you injected anything. you could have cheat engine installed on system but vac would not notice it unless u made it inject a cheat into game.

[Shallex]

VAC is automated and reporting somebody will not affect VAC's ability to ban a user. If you get reported a lot and don't cheat, you shouldn't have to worry. If there is even a slight doubt you may be hacking, the overwatchers should decide that there is not enough evidence. The only time you should be banned is if you are cheating beyond a reasonable doubt. Also the reason they remove voice and text chat is because none of that matters if you are catching a cheater. If you are trying to tell if someone is cheating, why does voice/text matter? It will only make things worse as it may affect the overwatcher's judgement if they are hearing/seeing chat from the suspect, which is a 100 percent bad thing. The only thing that matters is their gameplay.

[Grizzledorf]

Shallex původně napsal:

VAC is automated and reporting somebody will not affect VAC's ability to ban a user. If you get reported a lot and don't cheat, you shouldn't have to worry. If there is even a slight doubt you may be hacking, the overwatchers should decide that there is not enough evidence. The only time you should be banned is if you are cheating beyond a reasonable doubt. Also the reason they remove voice and text chat is because none of that matters if you are catching a cheater. If you are trying to tell if someone is cheating, why does voice/text matter? It will only make things worse as it may affect the overwatcher's judgement if they are hearing/seeing chat from the suspect, which is a 100 percent bad thing. The only thing that matters is their gameplay.

i agree with this post but somewhat i do not agree with is voice chat.. but the reason they cant allow it i bet is because it may identify people in a case.


sometimes people who die call out what they see... such as when deathcam view still shows area around dead person for a few seconds... they could make a call out that no way the person they told could know.. without hearing or reading that call out one could note that down as possible evidence towards walling.

but yet again i would hope most overwatchers like myself keep call outs in mind

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Account Untrusted bans come from OW, they turn into VAC bans over time. To say one has nothing to do with the other is bit naive.

[Grizzledorf]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| původně napsal:

Account Untrusted bans come from OW, they turn into VAC bans over time. To say one has nothing to do with the other is bit naive.

no untrusted has nothing to do with overwatch. or else the sticky would say overwatch majorly disruptive turns into untrusted that turns into vac..

there is clearly stated 4 ban systems. cooldown, vac,overwatch,untrusted. they are all seperate... well i guess except untrusted since turns into vac

i dont want to fight with you since we both agree cheaters suck but you are wrong. i had to be corrected since i thought same way as you do before