Smurf Accounts in CS:GO

[KingLoui]

Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen,
as I am not a very good Player and primary playing to have fun garnished with a bit adrenaline, I noticed something, that really reduces (my) gaming pleasure significantly, and which is the fact, that about 50% of all matches I play, there is a so called "Smurf" on the Server. And that could not be within the meaning of the complex ranking system of CS:GO.
So my questions is: what do you think about such "Smurf" Accounts? Should they be prohibited officially by Valve?

with kind regards
me

[Steelocation]

It's money for Valve! If people are willing to buy another CS:GO game then you will see people create an alternative account. It isn't pleasant but money is money.

[Pyroknight]

And then you get a lucky headshot and they explode with hackusations

[Droote]

Smurfs can be annoying, but not always. When you are in a certain rank, you play with others in the same rank, and it is hard to get better. With smurfs playing with you, you can learn from them and get better.

[Tiel]

Originally posted by Droote:

Smurfs can be annoying, but not always. When you are in a certain rank, you play with others in the same rank, and it is hard to get better. With smurfs playing with you, you can learn from them and get better.

This, and you can't always be certain they're smurfs just because they're better than you.

[5Mercury]

When I hear that low-rank players are supposed to learn from smurfs, I think of learning boxing by getting dumped in a ring with a pro with no guidance. You are constantly on the mat and have no idea why.

You might learn to run or hide, I guess. And, then you can be the last person alive when the smurf finally finds you and humiliates you in front of everyone. Yay.

That said, a more reasonable defense of smurfs is that they are just as likely to be helping you on your team as hurting you on the other team. But any "learning" defense always rings hollow to me and sounds like a self-justification from someone who wants to feel like they're a good guy/gal, when really they just enjoy feeling powerful (as most of us do).

A possible limiter for pervasive disruptive smurfs ( is that a new rock band? ) would be to throttle your negative ranking change if you have an unusual ranking-change pattern.

For instance, if you move up and down a lot, you descend more slowly in rank. This wouldn't prevent the new-account smurfs, but would keep people from easily de-ranking themselves.

[Generic Cereal]

I am strongly against smurfs, and I agree with 5Mercury. Although it would be hard to prove that a player is a smurf since yes, there are new players who pick the game quickly and can dominate the other team.

[Reddy]

"Smurfs" are bad most of the time anyway. I added one once. He claimed he was DMG on his other account. I partied up with him and lost every single match with him. We were both Gold Nova 1's. The best part is, he never used anything except a P90 or a SCAR-20/G3SG1.

I've run into plenty of other "smurfs" whom are just as bad, and have yet to find a "smurf" that doesn't use a P90 the majority of the time.

Yes, you can learn from them. But you're just going to find yourself being stomped most of the time unless your experiences are anything like mine. Learning is pretty hard when you're salty.

[LightKeeper]

You can't rule out what majority consider to be a "smurf" account due to the actual legitimacy of newer users trying out CS:GO. I do understand, and probably more than most, that it's frustrating going against brand new accounts that are literally dropping bombs in the game, but that'll always be a part of the game. You cannot base it on "x" amount of time played, people will idle accounts. You cannot base it on "need this 'x' amount of wins", people will achieve that number on the new account. The list can go on and on.

The only advice I can give personally throughout all my years in CS, is simply block individuals you don't want to play against or with again in the future. Blocking communications will prevent you from being set in a queue with that individual in the future (unless it's in a rare occurance that individual is in a lobby and you re-queue instantly getting those players again, in which case you'll need to block the individual they're in a lobby with in addition).

If you're unhappy with "smurf" CS:GO accounts, I'd recommend you doing something else with your time.

[5Mercury]

Originally posted by koa:

Blocking communications will prevent you from being set in a queue with that individual in the future

Thanks for mentioning that - I didn't know it worked that way and will definitely use it. So far, I have only blocked godawful singers and racists.

That said, that useful information isn't what I would expect from a "Block Communication" setting. I would think that would just block communication, like it says. Maybe they could rename it to "Block Player" or something clearer.

Originally posted by koa:

If you're unhappy with "smurf" CS:GO accounts, I'd recommend you doing something else with your time.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Wouldn't a programmatic solution to an unintended ranking situation (highly-skilled players overwhelming new players at low ranks) make more sense than just encouraging all new or unskilled people to quit if they don't like dying in an extremely unfair fight?

Originally posted by Moon Moon:

Although it would be hard to prove that a player is a smurf since yes, there are new players who pick the game quickly and can dominate the other team.

Those folks would be out of the way in just 10 games or so, so they're not nearly as much of a problem as someone intentionally gaming (hehe) the system to stay at a low rank.

Edited to fix koa's name. I blame the editor for screwing it up.

[9999999]

Well I am smurf from global current rank supreme 391 hours 140 games and I don't need this account so I trade it to csgo skins if somebody interested add me. The main point why I had smurf is when I played on main had trolls cheater tks or any stuff like that you get banned for 1 days than 3 days or 7 in the end you dont like to wait you get new account SIMPLE and its not hard to reach same rank if you are good. So if anybody is interested in getting supreme account for csgo items feel free to add me i dont need smurf any more.

[Softspokenman]

thats a nice red ban you got there does it come with the account?

[HG]

Valve like money their a business the end.

[mint]

every other cs game didnt have rankings, so playing against low ranks didnt exist. just get better at the game instead of thinking your entitled to a win 50% of the time

[Max]

Originally posted by Steelocation:

It's money for Valve! If people are willing to buy another CS:GO game then you will see people create an alternative account. It isn't pleasant but money is money.

Very very wrong, they don't need money to buy a new game, if they use it on the same computer they can allow there main to share the same game, that's how people do it

[wowdoge]

Originally posted by Captain Phasma:

Originally posted by Steelocation:

It's money for Valve! If people are willing to buy another CS:GO game then you will see people create an alternative account. It isn't pleasant but money is money.

Very very wrong, they don't need money to buy a new game, if they use it on the same computer they can allow there main to share the same game, that's how people do it

They need to buy a new cs:go. Yes, smurfs use the same computer but each steam account needs a copy of the game that was bought to play multiplayer. If you don't buy it, you can only play offline with bots and without skins.