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Orange Mar 21, 2015 @ 10:07pm
Official statement on CS:GO sprays?
Why has Valve not made an official statement about this feature, or the lack thereof, in CS:GO? Whether it was something important to gameplay is irrelevant, it was always the most significant trait that separated Valve's games from others and made them feel unique and homey.

I believe there's two reasons:
-Valve is now a sleezy organization, they're focused only on profit now, whereas customer satisfaction used to be at least on oef their priorities
-The Valve marketing team is greedily rubbing their hands together thinking about how they can present sprays as marketable workshop items without repulsing older users of their games.

Personally if this were a new feature I would have no problem with it being a workshop item, but the simple fact remains that if they even hint at making me, and many others, pay for something that was once free it'll be time to jump ship.

Personally I'm going to continue to play GO with or without them, although the game feels lacking with the latter, but without an official statement I grow dissatisfied and disappointed in Valve more and more.
Last edited by Orange; Mar 21, 2015 @ 10:12pm
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Lord Escanor Mar 21, 2015 @ 10:10pm 
Originally posted by LemonLimePrimeTime:
Why has Valve not made an official statement about this feature, or the lack thereof, in CS:GO? Whether it was something important to gameplay is irrelevant, it was always the most significant trait that separated Valve's games from others and made them feel unique and homey.

I believe there's two reasons:
-Valve is now a sleezy organization, they're focused only on profit now, whereas customer satisfaction used to be at least on oef their priorities
-The Valve marketing team is greedily rubbing their hands together thinking about how they can present sprays as marketable workshop items without repulsing older users of their games.

Personally if this were a new feature I would have no problem with it being a workshop item, but the simple fact remains that if they even hint at making me, and many others, pay for something that was once free it'll be time to jump ship.

Personally I'm going to continue to play GO with or without them, although the game feels lacking without the latter, but without an official statement I grow usatisfied and disappointed in Valve more and more.

I know, mate. Such a simple thing, but still a great feature. RIP sprays.
Catmality Mar 21, 2015 @ 10:25pm 
They probably removed them because how everyone was spraying porn.
Orange Mar 21, 2015 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Catmality:
They probably removed them because how everyone was spraying porn.

One person posts this on the comment of some youtube video and now everyone says it, the truth is only 1/8 sprays were porn, in fact most servers banned lewd sprays.

To make matters more secure you always had the option of disabling sprays both serverside and clientside.

Please never take the side of a company you're purchasing products from, your content providers should always be under your constant scrutiny. It's healthy for both you and their company, because you get a higher quality product and the company maintains a higher ethic.
Don't provide explanations, even if you already have one in mind, demand that the company provide you with answers.
When people do what you're doing now you inhibit capitalism from functioning properly.

General Awesome Mar 21, 2015 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by LemonLimePrimeTime:
Originally posted by Catmality:
They probably removed them because how everyone was spraying porn.

When people do what you're doing now you inhibit capitalism from functioning properly.

*When people do what you're doing now, you support dictators and communism.
Last edited by General Awesome; Mar 21, 2015 @ 11:22pm
僕の名前 (仮) Mar 21, 2015 @ 11:29pm 
I'd prefer to see sprays over stickers. I hope in next CS valve not add stickers and instead sprays.
Orange Mar 21, 2015 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by SomeGuy:
I'd prefer to see sprays over stickers. I hope in next CS valve not add stickers and instead sprays.

I hope they don't try to monetize on it personally, it's always been free and personalized.
Originally posted by LemonLimePrimeTime:
Originally posted by Catmality:
They probably removed them because how everyone was spraying porn.

One person posts this on the comment of some youtube video and now everyone says it, the truth is only 1/8 sprays were porn, in fact most servers banned lewd sprays.

To make matters more secure you always had the option of disabling sprays both serverside and clientside.

Please never take the side of a company you're purchasing products from, your content providers should always be under your constant scrutiny. It's healthy for both you and their company, because you get a higher quality product and the company maintains a higher ethic.
Don't provide explanations, even if you already have one in mind, demand that the company provide you with answers.
When people do what you're doing now you inhibit capitalism from functioning properly.
Well everytime i play gmod or CS:S or CS 1.6 i see porn
Even if it's "forbidden" people still post it
Orange Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by michaelwang22 2mlg4u(ง'̀-'́):
Originally posted by LemonLimePrimeTime:

One person posts this on the comment of some youtube video and now everyone says it, the truth is only 1/8 sprays were porn, in fact most servers banned lewd sprays.

To make matters more secure you always had the option of disabling sprays both serverside and clientside.

Please never take the side of a company you're purchasing products from, your content providers should always be under your constant scrutiny. It's healthy for both you and their company, because you get a higher quality product and the company maintains a higher ethic.
Don't provide explanations, even if you already have one in mind, demand that the company provide you with answers.
When people do what you're doing now you inhibit capitalism from functioning properly.
Well everytime i play gmod or CS:S or CS 1.6 i see porn
Even if it's "forbidden" people still post it

Then disable sprays on your side, your situation won't change one bit if they enable it because you have that option. The other players that choose not to disable it will simply have access to a feature that should have been there in the first place.

People do post porn although it's more rare than the common anecdotal evidence claims, no one denies that, but that's not a reason to disable sprays. If a server doesn't like sprays they can disable them, and if a user doesn't like them they can do the same.

I advocate keeping sprays disabled on official Valve servers, especially competitive games, but why harm their community? Anything that restricts or takes away freedom from their game's communities simply makes Valve look bad.
Omgwtfbbqkitten Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:27am 
I would love to see sprays return, but only Valve approved sprays and no custom sprays.

There was far to many people using porn / gay porn sprays in CS 1.6 and CSS. People also used decoy sprays and ladder sprays to confuse noobs or to gain an advantage.
Last edited by Omgwtfbbqkitten; Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:28am
Eno Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:32am 
Sprays would be nice, but I don't think they're gonna be added at least any time soon. They probably weren't featured in the game at the start of the development, since Hidden Path started developing CSGO with consoles in mind.

The pub I play on has a spray plugin, but the available sprays need to be uploaded by the server.
Last edited by Eno; Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:33am
Orange Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten:
I would love to see sprays return, but only Valve approved sprays and no custom sprays.

There was far to many people using porn / gay porn sprays. There was also alot of people using decoy sprays and ladder sprays to confuse noobs or to gain an advantage.

Personally I would uninstall CS:GO and never purchase another Valve product again if they did that to their customers, you should never be charged for something that is free. "Valve approved sprays" means that they would charge money for workshop sprays.
Previously you had the option of disabling sprays, so unsavory content on some servers shouldn't be an issue.

Once again the problem persists of many people providing excuses for Valve. This thread isn't even about sprays returning in itself, this thread is about Valve providing an official statement about why sprays aren't in the game in the first place. You're a customer, not an employee. Even if you think Valve's decision wasn't unreasonable you shouldn't be against an official answer, it can do nothing but benefit you (the consumer).
Orange Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Eno Etukeno:
They probably weren't featured in the game at the start of the development, since Hidden Path started developing CSGO with consoles in mind.

The pub I play on has a spray plugin, but the available sprays need to be uploaded by the server.

No they were in the game originally, it's a part of source engine, but they disabled them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFEv975LHoQ
Mintyfresh Mar 22, 2015 @ 11:36am 
I would want sprays, but they'd annoy me in competitive play.. Either way I'm happy, I have 900 hours in Source and loved sprays. I never really missed them or cared that they weren't in GO.
[F@KeR*] Mar 22, 2015 @ 12:13pm 
i think they way more importent feature would be flashlights and darkness
Orange Mar 22, 2015 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by TK Mintyfresh:
I would want sprays, but they'd annoy me in competitive play.. Either way I'm happy, I have 900 hours in Source and loved sprays. I never really missed them or cared that they weren't in GO.

They should be disabled in competitive mode without a doubt, but for everything else they sould be given the opportunity to be enabled. It would be fine even if they were disabled on a server and client by default, at least they'd be there.
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