Counter-Strike 2

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kekle May 25, 2015 @ 8:50am
Why CSGO is autistic: the minimalist format
- Hitting players 3-4 times with an unscoped weapon only to be hit once by a scoped weapon (later) and die immediately to a worse player with aim assistance (scope).

- Registration is garbage even considering the 64-128tic ranges. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmrajx7Xrs

- Hitting player with a headshot and a normal shot first, only to lose to the same number of hits (afterwards) because of a weapon-type. Disregarding money, this happens anyway. It makes no sense someone should be rewarded for doing the same thing 50 milliseconds or more after you, or doing it later than you do it and in the same or worse way.

- Taking damage from bad players over time due to bad registry can make for unskilled or worthless 1v1s (20hp vs 100hp) when it actually matters. This is fine for 5v5s or proper team balanced matches; but players who are like -3 ranks tend to boost themselves just for the medals to think they are better.

- The anti-cheat is non-existent.

- The game is based on luck if a player hides in a spot which is not checked, or hides in a spot which simply is not checked 'first'. (Any guy with an IQ higher than about 40 knows how to use sound or can hide until a good moment, but that isn't really skill at that point.)

- Pros and MLG of this game are over-hyped. MLG events of the game serve the purpose of bringing 12 year olds and autistic adults to the game who want to be 'f0rest' or 'g3t_right'. (Don't get me wrong on this point, they are good and play the game a lot to consistent, but there are lots of delusional hackers and even more skilled players who can match them or even perhaps do better).

- Due to the anti-cheat being so bad, even people with 1000$ worth of goods and otherwise "no reason to cheat" have been found to be cheating all along after trivial updates of publicly available cheats. They just make another account and do it again too (90% of the time).

So I just wonder. With all these points which you can expand upon yourself: what exactly makes this game competitive?


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I have already been to global elite (not much of an achievement, considering the autistic pool of Matchmaking players and cheaters at the top ranks), already managed 14-15 rws once in ESEA (pro is like 15+), and I can only bring myself to play this game casually sometimes.

So really, I'm not waiting for the 12 year olds to talk about someone being salty. I just like to debate and show factual points about it. I mean, I'm the player who top frags and still says 'this game is garbage'. So don't be autistic if you're about 12 years old and reply something like "you are salty ur not global cuz ur not 10-0 ur like 10-1.." etc. In terms of competitiveness, I wonder what a pro player would say about this garbage balance and terrible game. I know just about everything and have become good at this game but I've just come to the conclusion time and time again: it is just garbage. This game is like for 12 year olds just like Call of Duty, even though a bad console game can never compare to a PC Valve game. This is the only MLG/major game apparently that rewards players for being lazy or aiming badly over actually aiming at the head or doing fast movements.
Last edited by kekle; May 25, 2015 @ 9:04am
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himself78RR May 25, 2015 @ 9:23am 
1. Do you know what autism is? If so, how does a game demonstrate it? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
2. You say you use ESEA (or have in the past). 128 tick registration is very good compared to the registration of competing games. I doubt you will find better (that's not really on Valve though).
3. Your third point. You can't ignore the money factor.
4. Bad registry would statistically happen about equally to all players, no? So there's no way that it would affect rank (everyone is on an even playing field in that regard). I'm still confused about what you actually mean in the bad registry point though.
5. The anti-cheat exists; the game is just cheap.
6. I wouldn't call this luck most of the time. If you're not checking, then you deserve to get punished for it. Rarely are there a ton of different places opponents can be (that you can't check either systematically or at the same time). I mean, the main time I could see this being sort of true is when there are two sides of a door, but there are many ways of dealing with that. If you deal with it, they fight a man down. If you don't, they take the advantage (map or man). Teamplay also deals with this quite well.
7. You've used "autistic" incorrectly again. Furthermore, I don't understand how this reflects poorly on the game. The pros are not always as good as people make them out to be? Who cares.
8. Game is cheap.

On laziness and aiming badly over aiming well:

I don't understand. A lazy player will lose to an interested/attentive player very, very frequently. A player who aims poorly will lose to players who aim well very, very frequently. That's not to say that it will never happen; every once in a while the lazy poor aimer will win, but statistically (in terms of winning and losing) it is fairly insignificant.
DrMeepy May 25, 2015 @ 9:46am 
Definitely salty. Yes its true boolets register at lan tournaments, and some fraggits use lag switch religiously near corners. Online competitive solo queue is teh only troo faith, and u mus learn to use p90 and lag compensation for your benefit. Try standing near cornurs maore while having porn dl in the background, its like teleporting.
kekle May 25, 2015 @ 9:47am 
1. Autism is mental impairment. The game demonstrates it by catering to autistic or mentally impaired players.
2. ...
3. You can't tell me to use an idea I gave to you in the first place because money doesn't matter except in a real match. Balance is a bit better but it's still equally unbalanced for other reasons such as hiding and randomness factors.
4. Bad registry does not happen to all players. Some players have 10 ping on internet servers and great registry but this only compensates for some of their lack of skill. Having that lets you get away with practically not getting hit at all , if you have the skill 10ms vs 50ms difference, it can add up to 15ms vs about 75ms average client->server(update)->client based on when the server will receive, update, and then also send back relevant data. The hit reg 'can' be good even on 64 tic. Everyone knows it was better on 1.6 and even CS:S even if the recoil pattern and aim was utterly simplistic in CS:S and thus why there was no large competitive play there (the simplicity).
5. The game being more expensive would not deter more than like 10-20% of cheaters, and there are a ton of them. Ever run into that pimple-faced guy who claims to make thousands and just rage-hacks to boost his friends? I'm sure you have if you played this game.
6. Nope. At level of play like Eagle or higher (top 4 ranks of game) you can expect people to at least be able to aim; or have the hacks to allow them to pretend to aim at a high level. If you look at the wrong spot, you are dead already unless they are legit players or not as skilled in the first place. Many times you will see walling players joke about walls or say you are walling because they figure you can't possibly be better than them, review the game, see them looking through walls, or even catch a blatant cheater: but they won't ever get banned for it (except in a very rare instance).
7. ... No.
8. Look at 5.


Rank? I would care more if you didn't seem to be giving simplistic arguments like some random game enthusiast who just got into CSGO as his first game like 1-2 years ago and probably never made it to top ranks of the game. Not to mention randomly mentioning common sense points which I already know.

And yes Meepy I soloqued to Global Elite before after about a year. Look at my screenshots.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=283303403
I wasn't too bad at this game in the past when I really put my mind to it.
Last edited by kekle; May 25, 2015 @ 10:04am
davoin May 25, 2015 @ 2:21pm 
i support dis topic
#obama2016
ner0 May 25, 2015 @ 2:22pm 
kek
Agera May 25, 2015 @ 2:28pm 
0/10 lmao
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