Burst Fire Button... Bannable?

[donuts]

Hey guys, I am currently using a Rush FireGlider mouse. This mouse has a button in the top right corner of the left mouse button. If this button is pressed your gun will shoot three times (burst) in a row. This is very useful for pistols since it makes shooting in close range much more easy. It does seem like an advantage though, so I was wondering if you could get banned for using this?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Overwatch may ban you.

[FURRYDISEMBOWELER74]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Overwatch may ban you.

For something that you can do with your finger? I doubt it. It doesn't increase firerate or anything at all, just simulates 3 mouse clicks.

[D.A.R.K.]

This IS an advantage. Only 2 weapons in the game has Burst Fire [Glock and FAMAS] you are using a "cheat" to have something only you can have.

You will NOT be banned by any System, but this is an external assistance and an Overwatcher CAN and WILL judge you as guilty for using that.

[Wall-E®]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Overwatch may ban you.

For something that you can do with your finger? I doubt it. It doesn't increase firerate or anything at all, just simulates 3 mouse clicks.

no, the mouse is designed to be faster than doing 3 mouse clicks.(assuming that the mouse OP bought is a gaming on).
I've heard mice like the fire*something something* has a rapid fire button which makes tech 9 op. Over watch will probably spot you with it and might list you in for a trigger bot or something but VAC won't unless it's implemented in the software

[FURRYDISEMBOWELER74]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K:

This IS an advantage. Only 2 weapons in the game has Burst Fire [Glock and FAMAS] you are using a "cheat" to have something only you can have.

You will NOT be banned by any System, but this is an external assistance and an Overwatcher CAN and WILL judge you as guilty for using that.

Dude. It doesn't "Burst" like the glock or famas, it just SIMULATES 3 mouse clicks. It doesn't increase the rate of fire of those 3 or make them more accurate.

Originally posted by pi:

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

For something that you can do with your finger? I doubt it. It doesn't increase firerate or anything at all, just simulates 3 mouse clicks.

no, the mouse is designed to be faster than doing 3 mouse clicks.(assuming that the mouse OP bought is a gaming on).
I've heard mice like the fire*something something* has a rapid fire button which makes tech 9 op. Over watch will probably spot you with it and might list you in for a trigger bot or something but VAC won't unless it's implemented in the software

Not really, no. You can't do that with a mouse where the rates of fire of the weapons are predetermined.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Overwatch may ban you.

I doubt it.

I don't ...because OW has banned for it before.

Read #2 in it's entirety:


http://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/864959336634313487/

II) Overwatch bans:
1.Minorly disruptive (griefing): Around 30 days/1 month.
2. Majorly disruptive (cheating -aim/wall/other external hacks): Permanent.
For more information regarding Overwatch-bans go here.

[berend]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K:

This IS an advantage. Only 2 weapons in the game has Burst Fire [Glock and FAMAS] you are using a "cheat" to have something only you can have.

You will NOT be banned by any System, but this is an external assistance and an Overwatcher CAN and WILL judge you as guilty for using that.

Dude. It doesn't "Burst" like the glock or famas, it just SIMULATES 3 mouse clicks. It doesn't increase the rate of fire of those 3 or make them more accurate.

Originally posted by pi:

no, the mouse is designed to be faster than doing 3 mouse clicks.(assuming that the mouse OP bought is a gaming on).
I've heard mice like the fire*something something* has a rapid fire button which makes tech 9 op. Over watch will probably spot you with it and might list you in for a trigger bot or something but VAC won't unless it's implemented in the software

Not really, no. You can't do that with a mouse where the rates of fire of the weapons are predetermined.

Bunnyhop scripts simply simulate clicks and buttons as well and is not allowed. I'd say it is not allowed and as Guyver said, overwatch might ban you.

[FURRYDISEMBOWELER74]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

I doubt it.

I don't ...because OW has banned for it before.

Read #2 in it's entirety:


http://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/864959336634313487/

II) Overwatch bans:
1.Minorly disruptive (griefing): Around 30 days/1 month.
2. Majorly disruptive (cheating -aim/wall/other external hacks): Permanent.
For more information regarding Overwatch-bans go here.

Macro that simulates clicks doesn't fall under any type of cheating or griefing. Care to post there he got banned instead of just randomly pointing it out?

Originally posted by BEREND:

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Dude. It doesn't "Burst" like the glock or famas, it just SIMULATES 3 mouse clicks. It doesn't increase the rate of fire of those 3 or make them more accurate.

Not really, no. You can't do that with a mouse where the rates of fire of the weapons are predetermined.

Bunnyhop scripts simply simulate clicks and buttons as well and is not allowed. I'd say it is not allowed and as Guyver said, overwatch might ban you.

There is a difference between a script which interferes with the game and an external macro which has nothing to do with the game.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Macro that simulates clicks doesn't fall under any type of cheating or griefing. Care to post there he got banned instead of just randomly pointing it out?

You don't have any say in what counts as cheating, Valve does.

[berend]

Whether it is an internal script, or en external macro does not really matter. It is giving you advantage over other players. There is a reason most lans do not allow you to use these macro's.

[FURRYDISEMBOWELER74]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Macro that simulates clicks doesn't fall under any type of cheating or griefing. Care to post there he got banned instead of just randomly pointing it out?

You don't have any say in what counts as cheating, Valve does.

My god how can you possibly be so ignorant? I just right now literaly said that it doesn't fall under any type of cheating BECAUSE IT DOES NOT, valve has NOT listed it as such.

Originally posted by BEREND:

Whether it is an internal script, or en external macro does not really matter. It is giving you advantage over other players. There is a reason most lans do not allow you to use these macro's.

I would LOVE to hear how it gives an advantage.

[Fluid]

But the overwatch will have no idea, if its a script or "100% legit" macro, it is still can be counted as EXTERNAL ASSISTANCE and may get you a ban.

Little offtopic: The "its only a macro, not a hack" will very quickly get you banned in starcraft 2.
Because CSGO is not starcraft 2, you may play for pretty long time with macro, but there is real chance of getting banned.

[berend]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You don't have any say in what counts as cheating, Valve does.

My god how can you possibly be so ignorant? I just right now literaly said that it doesn't fall under any type of cheating BECAUSE IT DOES NOT, valve has NOT listed it as such.

Originally posted by BEREND:

Whether it is an internal script, or en external macro does not really matter. It is giving you advantage over other players. There is a reason most lans do not allow you to use these macro's.

I would LOVE to hear how it gives an advantage.

Is that a serious question? If it wasn't he would not want to use it, he himself said its "easier".

[FURRYDISEMBOWELER74]

Originally posted by Fluid:

But the overwatch will have no idea, if its a script or "100% legit" macro, it is still can be counted as EXTERNAL ASSISTANCE and may get you a ban.

Little offtopic: The "its only a macro, not a hack" will very quickly get you banned in starcraft 2.
Because CSGO is not starcraft 2, you may play for pretty long time with macro, but there is real chance of getting banned.

Wait so if I was to go right now ingame, start playing competitive and then ONLY use 3 burst by manually click I can get banned? I mean, overwatch can't really know if it's a macro or me clicking can they?

Originally posted by BEREND:

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

My god how can you possibly be so ignorant? I just right now literaly said that it doesn't fall under any type of cheating BECAUSE IT DOES NOT, valve has NOT listed it as such.

I would LOVE to hear how it gives an advantage.

Is that a serious question? If it wasn't he would not want to use it, he himself said its "easier".

Easier for him because he clearly can't manage clicking and being accurate at the same time.

[berend]

Originally posted by .:WinterPwnd:.:

Originally posted by Fluid:

But the overwatch will have no idea, if its a script or "100% legit" macro, it is still can be counted as EXTERNAL ASSISTANCE and may get you a ban.

Little offtopic: The "its only a macro, not a hack" will very quickly get you banned in starcraft 2.
Because CSGO is not starcraft 2, you may play for pretty long time with macro, but there is real chance of getting banned.

Wait so if I was to go right now ingame, start playing competitive and then ONLY use 3 burst by manually click I can get banned? I mean, overwatch can't really know if it's a macro or me clicking can they?

Whether they can detect it or not is not the case. They might not, still not allowed.