Steam Deck performance with a monitor

[Jeffo]

Greetings,

in a few weeks im gonna be a dad and i have to get rid of my "gaming station" to make place for baby stuff.

I was thinking about buying a steam deck to play Counter Strike with the newest Source 2 update and buy a small 144hz monitor. Because it doesnt take so much space.
I want to have the same mouse settings and hardware (mouse/keyboard) on the steam deck like on my computer.

Is the steamdeck a viable option? Or should i just use a gaming laptop?

Thanks in advance.

[Easy]

Steam Deck is a great thing. You can play almost all Steam Games

And you can play Android / Ios games via emulator. Let's say you like Mobile Legends Bang Bang ~ you can play it on ultra settings

CS: GO is working just fine

[[DOH] Mick]

I have a steam deck but think it would struggle to keep a good fps but having said that a laptop would be the same....Just keep the setup you have now and sit child on lap to be a future champion.

[NatzoXavier]

Get a gaming laptop.

[[DOH] Mick]

Originally posted by NatzoXavier:

Get a gaming laptop.

Laptop by design is flawed and prone to overheating.

[Glaze]

it could work. But probably wont be super viable for competitive?

[Jeffo]

yeah but i want to be "competitive".
Dont get me wrong im just a stupid double AK trying to get LEM.

But i still want to try :)

Thanks for your replys.

[kabanod1m #NotoToxicity]

Using steam deck for csgo here, yes, it does work out for me, but probably not so much for you - I'm using a 60 hz full hd monitor, not a 144 like you do, and the game runs like 110-150 fps in a 5v5 inferno match for me (full hd, everything very low (but shadows very high), X11(desktop) mode, not wayland(gaming) mode).

if you are competitive, you probably use lower resolutions anyway, not fullhd, and 1280x800 in gaming mode with 4xMSAA the game frankly gives me stable 200 fps somehow (even though there are actually MORE pixels to try and render like that..?)

you probably also have gaming devices, which don't have flexible on-board memory like most a4tech x7 devices have. Logitech devices require special software to be capable of sending macros and that important stuff. Usually on Linux devices like that are dealt with using Piper (front-end settings app) coupled with the ratbagd service to communicate with gaming devices, but I haven't yet figured out how to install services on SteamOS 3 without modifying the OS partition (everything in "/" except "/home").

but otherwise, for gaming and using it as a desktop gaming machine, Steam Deck is totally capable. you also need a good docking station (consider buying the official one - I'm yet to experience a single problem with it) that is capable of transferring that much data (1920x1080 pixels at 144 times a second + audio data if you have an USB headset) and with an HDMI/DisplayPort interface available on it.

[taki]

the steam deck + any monitor combo will work just fine

Originally posted by Easy:

Steam Deck is a great thing. You can play almost all Steam Games

And you can play Android / Ios games via emulator. Let's say you like Mobile Legends Bang Bang ~ you can play it on ultra settings

CS: GO is working just fine

100% true

the steam deck can run android /ios games on ultra / max settings

[Ančiukas ❤]

The Steam Deck is awesome

[76561198334930909]

don't believe the hype train, steam deck is a mess , from not working right to, long hours of reconfigure to get games to run , and short battery life. there are numbers of issues including poor wifi connection and improper hidden wifi connectivity.

incompatiblity issues include restarts, poor preformance, and a cripping gpu drop if the battery completely discharges (the gpu limiter can not be reset if this happens)

also cs:go does not work with the steam deck from all reports i have read. if you see someone playing csgo on the steam dead its most likely only being streamed.

with such poor frame rates and wifi issues, playing online games is nearly impossible on the steam deck, "recommended usb C hub" because they are selling a broken device and hoping you wanna put a portable on a dock to play games.

sorta defeats the purpose for a portable.

[kabanod1m #NotoToxicity]

Originally posted by Honor & Righteousness:

don't believe the hype train, steam deck is a mess , from not working right to, long hours of reconfigure to get games to run , and short battery life. there are numbers of issues including poor wifi connection and improper hidden wifi connectivity.

incompatiblity issues include restarts, poor preformance, and a cripping gpu drop if the battery completely discharges (the gpu limiter can not be reset if this happens)

also cs:go does not work with the steam deck from all reports i have read. if you see someone playing csgo on the steam dead its most likely only being streamed.

with such poor frame rates and wifi issues, playing online games is nearly impossible on the steam deck, "recommended usb C hub" because they are selling a broken device and hoping you wanna put a portable on a dock to play games.

sorta defeats the purpose for a portable.

I can screen share you how I play csgo not streamed on the steam deck if you want… and I honestly haven't run into most issues you talked about:

- not working — some windows games can't run through Proton because they are protected by some anti-cheat software that doesn't support Linux, examples are PUBG and EFT (which isn't even on Steam but still); in the end, you can dual-boot Windows 10 along with SteamOS, on a 512 gb deck there's plenty of space for that, or, if it's not enough, you can buy yourself a portable SSD from which you can boot as well!
- long hours of reconfigure to get games to run — configuring controls through Steam Input to fine tune everything and play the game how you'd like is a thing on every controller-operated device, including playstations, xboxes, nintendos etc, if you're about that; in some cases, it is also possible to run really obscure and old Windows games through Proton which don't run with default settings after trying out different launch parameters. if a game doesn't launch, most likely you need to run it with an older version of DirectX since they aren't backwards-compatible generally.
- short battery life — enough for me to play csgo portably for 5 hours straight (native res, discord in background, 4xMSAA + all very low except for shadows which are very high)
- poor wifi connection — for some reason I feel like internet connection is much better on my deck, which is on wifi, compared to my desktop, which is on ethernet. but that could be due to that on my desktop I use Windows and not Linux. for now.
- "improper hidden wifi connectivity" — really vague, can't say anything about that, but haven't encountered anything like it yet
- incompatiblity issues include restarts — sometimes when configuring controls using Steam Input you can crash Steam causing it look like device "restarts", even though it doesn't really, only Steam restarts
- poor preformance — no idea
- cripping gpu drop if the battery completely discharges (the gpu limiter can not be reset if this happens) — haven't encountered yet, but I never went lower than 10%, always plugged the charger in at that point
- also cs:go does not work with the steam deck from all reports i have read — it does, it even has a native linux build, the only problems so far that I have found — on 1280x800 and 1280x720 in Wayland(gaming) mode if in Retakes mode you'll ever get a card with an UMP-45 or AUG and it tries to render your game will crash (there is a bug report about that on CSGO github), and that the total count of rounds doesn't render correctly when spectating (if there are 16 rounds to win — it says ROUND x/1 when should x/16, if 30 — it says x/3 and not x/30)
- if you see someone playing csgo on the steam dead its most likely only being streamed. — streaming csgo even using 5ghz wifi-6 would result in a real big input latency which makes it viable to play only against bots
- sorta defeats the purpose for a portable. — you can dock it pretty much everywhere to connect a keyboard and a mouse if you are not ready for the controller in competitive challenge (and I am not), and it still takes up less space than a chromebook or a lenovo s145-15iwl which I had before as a portable device for studying

so don't mislead the OP please:D

EDIT1: just remembered two problems that probably only bother me, but here they are:
1) sometimes, when using a keyboard in Desktop when it is running through gaming mode (which Valve didn't intend users to do), if you hit alt+f4 to close a window in it, it will instead… close Steam? and you'll be thrown into TTY1 from which I still can't figure out how to get back into Steam, so yeah, sudo reboot
2) because of the nature of SteamOS 3 (that there is a "/" partition with the system, which is by default read-only and will be overriden by updates anyway, and "/home" partition where all your data is stored) I still couldn't figure out how to run systemd daemons that are located in an overlay filesystem I created, since it seems systemd doesn't support running daemons in chroot…? I'm still working on it though, and anyway, it's probably possible to wrap it into a flatpak just like for example EasyEffects does it

[Max]

If you want less headache then don't use Linux , theses devs who build Linux don't have standards so most devs just bild web version or tell to use winehq.


Unless if it was for server side task like you can use Maya with natives support.

[Max]

Even if they throw Vulcan support sometimes some stuff won't the same like tank in L4d2 ,you will gat tank have shiny plastic skin.

[Max]

Originally posted by DOH Mick:

Originally posted by NatzoXavier:

Get a gaming laptop.

Laptop by design is flawed and prone to overheating.

Depends if you get thick laptop then won't that bad as same level with thin laptop.

sadly new gen of laptops have small designs

[76561198334930909]

it sounds like it was alot of work to reinstall windows on the steam deck just to so something so simple as play csgo. the other side of improved wifi might be windows is more wifi friendly, apprently the linux drivers are complete garbage for the steam deck and cut wifi out with low connectivity issues.

i will be honest that it sounds like basicly a bad move , between being computer savoy or portable capable mr. fix it, you are asking for a boat load of trouble with the steam deck, i would not wanna drop 700 dollars to play csgo on a portable. which you will have to reformat with windows just to get it to work "right",

basicly steam dead is a 500-700 dollar emulator device to play games from snes , ps2, and sega years, but as for steam games it doesn't work correctly, only with prehappes the most cheesy indy based titles that are nothing more then atari graphics.

there are 100's if not 1000's of steam deck bug and complaint issues all over the steam deck forum. why are these there if the product is soild and works as its claimed to.

i have seen alot of deceptive context of steam deck, 1 person says it doesn't work, then the same 4 or 5 people say its great and it works fine for them, then another person appears and says it doesn't work and they repeat it, until the thread puts steam in a bad situation and then its deleted.

this type of behaviour from steam is why i question the real validity of the steam deck claims vs the real testimonies of steam deck users. you can not have a working product that is broken for 100's of people, or claim the product it good when 1 person says they enjoy it but several 100 say they can't, and don't enjoy it.

i won't even get into the apprent drift issues already occuring because of the badly made steamdeck joycons, the fact they are replaceable only shows you that they are poor quality that will cost you "extra" in aftermarket fixes.