Most people can't spot a cheater

[NE0]

After playing counter strike on and off for 25 years. Being an admin in a league that reviewed matches to spot cheaters; I can confidently say that I really do not believe that most of the player base can spot a cheater. I used to run multiple sponsored servers, and spent a lot of time watching players, and the cheats have gotten insanely sophisticated now. Even a 10 dollar cheat is pretty incredible and hard to spot, but not impossible... I see players calling blatant rage walling / aim assisting cheaters labeled as "good players with game sense".

Here is the reality. I am hovering around 7k elo where I placed, and there are cheaters on my team and the enemy team in virtually every match. How do I know this? I watch every game I play, and I can 100% say that I find at least 3 cheaters. Even 200 hour account with no aim are walling lol. This isn't a "trust factor" thing, it's a complete lack of a decent anti-cheat thing. I stopped playing CSGO at LEM, because there were so many blatants that it was unplayable.

It's getting old getting cheated out of wins due to this infestation of cheaters. The ones who cant spot cheaters are just newbs to be honest. Take if from someone with ten's of thousand's of hours in cs1.3-1.6, source, csgo, and now cs2, a lot of people are cheating, and you're just too new to cs to even know how to spot them.

[teammate]

Originally posted by dariankingo:

The truth is, you need to be a good player to spot cheaters.
Most people are either too bad or have been cheating for so long, that they don't know what it means to be a good player.

You ever seen donk killing ppl through smoke? It happens 3 of 5 rounds! I bet you’ll call him cheater, if he plays on casual with other name … it’s called game sense sometimes, but I bet 90% will call it cheat!

[xaxa]

Originally posted by teammate:

Originally posted by dariankingo:

The truth is, you need to be a good player to spot cheaters.
Most people are either too bad or have been cheating for so long, that they don't know what it means to be a good player.

You ever seen donk killing ppl through smoke? It happens 3 of 5 rounds! I bet you’ll call him cheater, if he plays on casual with other name … it’s called game sense sometimes, but I bet 90% will call it cheat!

I mean, if donk was playing casual with a new account, even pro players would call him a cheater. Just because the chances of a really good player with account like that being legit is very low.

[120km/h peek. zxcsanickz?]

Originally posted by RoleAdv:

:yay:

Hff

[w]

Originally posted by teammate:

Originally posted by w:

Tbh you dont need to be cs guru to spot idiots or brain dead people, decision making alone can tell on what skill group you are on... It all basic cs knowledge

Sorry for the truth btw

But banning someone for being better than you makes you brain dead. And votekicking someone every round, because you have no idea how it’s possible to kill 9 of 10 on casual, makes you idiot … you are right!

Kindly dont make assumption and false statements, there are ton of good players in this game and when you see one you know... there are many layers to this game, how small decision can make drastic changes in a round, where else a silver with cheats cant comprehend that and make dumb moves which to him looks normal but in real anyone who know how to actually play the game looks ridiculous


Perhaps your tiny brain wont be able to grasp that, so i apologise to you :)

[Nanook]

There are more than one level of cheaters.
1. simple cheaters - you can tell they are cheating because with walls on - they peek at the player and then look to the corner. They keep all of the players in the field of view as the move and not check corners.
2. Advanced cheaters - they are legit good players and add a small amount either slight aim boost or a radar hack - damn near impossible to detect. You literally have to watch more than one demo and if you can get team chat, you will know what the calls were.
3. casual idiots - spinbots, aimbots and all the other things that come with it.

Most people see type 3 as cheating - a few see type 1 and almost no one can figure out type 2.

[Nanook]

Originally posted by teammate:

Originally posted by dariankingo:

The truth is, you need to be a good player to spot cheaters.
Most people are either too bad or have been cheating for so long, that they don't know what it means to be a good player.

You ever seen donk killing ppl through smoke? It happens 3 of 5 rounds! I bet you’ll call him cheater, if he plays on casual with other name … it’s called game sense sometimes, but I bet 90% will call it cheat!

You look at the profile and see over 10,000 hours and you know they are just good.

[Møghunden]

Originally posted by NE0:

After playing counter strike on and off for 25 years. Being an admin in a league that reviewed matches to spot cheaters; I can confidently say that I really do not believe that most of the player base can spot a cheater. I used to run multiple sponsored servers, and spent a lot of time watching players, and the cheats have gotten insanely sophisticated now. Even a 10 dollar cheat is pretty incredible and hard to spot, but not impossible... I see players calling blatant rage walling / aim assisting cheaters labeled as "good players with game sense".

Here is the reality. I am hovering around 7k elo where I placed, and there are cheaters on my team and the enemy team in virtually every match. How do I know this? I watch every game I play, and I can 100% say that I find at least 3 cheaters. Even 200 hour account with no aim are walling lol. This isn't a "trust factor" thing, it's a complete lack of a decent anti-cheat thing. I stopped playing CSGO at LEM, because there were so many blatants that it was unplayable.

It's getting old getting cheated out of wins due to this infestation of cheaters. The ones who cant spot cheaters are just newbs to be honest. Take if from someone with ten's of thousand's of hours in cs1.3-1.6, source, csgo, and now cs2, a lot of people are cheating, and you're just too new to cs to even know how to spot them.

Sad but true

[kabanod1m #NotoToxicity]

wow… well I was never near 7k, only for like a few games when I first got my CSR in season 1, mostly always played on 13-19k since cs2's release, but I often get completely clean matches, and when I don't it's either 1-2 cheaters on 1 team or a full stack against me (since I can't get into their full stack randomly obviously).

if this really isn't a trust factor issue I wish you to get out of that 7k hell as soon as possible… it's going to get better, well, unless you reach something like 25k — at that point there are almost exclusively the richest players with the most expensive gaming chairs.

[1SEXICANO1]

so a player who disconnects at start, has a timeout then goes 16-0 in 4 rounds is not cheating? grow up this game is full of cheaters.

[kabanod1m #NotoToxicity]

Originally posted by 1SEXICANO1:

so a player who disconnects at start, has a timeout then goes 16-0 in 4 rounds is not cheating? grow up this game is full of cheaters.

I'm sorry but have you finished reading the opening post?

[kabanod1m #NotoToxicity]

Originally posted by IceTom:

visually, if someone just lets the bot aim the last percent, noone will spot that. and that has been possible since 1.6 cheats

probably noone will spot that with their bare eyes but it's insanely blatant when you analyze demo data and plot it out on a graph:
6:18-7:00
https://youtu.be/WIVbg165WCU?si=GifeqvYKhsJWrgck&t=378

[NE0]

Originally posted by teammate:

I’m sure I can’t recognise some of those, but although you played for 25 years, I still don’t believe there are at least 3 cheaters every game. I’m banned from 2 of my country local servers from some admins with your mentality and never cheated in my life! And I haven’t played cs for 20 years maybe (since 1.6, never seen cs go) and when you see my 800ish hours of play and regularly at the top of the list with 3:1 kd ratio, you will decide I’m cheater right.
But you see, I’m now watching spirit agains gl at Katowice and writing in the break and you still don’t know what it is …
Sorry for the hate, but there are definitely not 3 cheaters in every game, and you are not the cs guru you think you are.

Why don't you comment on an account that isn't pisslow 1 year of service. Your main (if you ever had one) probably got vac banned.........

[dariankingo]

Originally posted by Nanook:

Most people see type 3 as cheating - a few see type 1 and almost no one can figure out type 2.

i can . Obviously this takes time, it is not an automatic "thing".
Many good cheaters have asked me how i knew they were not playing legit. Of course i never answer that question, i will not help them become better cheaters.

[NE0]

Originally posted by teammate:

Originally posted by dariankingo:

The truth is, you need to be a good player to spot cheaters.
Most people are either too bad or have been cheating for so long, that they don't know what it means to be a good player.

You ever seen donk killing ppl through smoke? It happens 3 of 5 rounds! I bet you’ll call him cheater, if he plays on casual with other name … it’s called game sense sometimes, but I bet 90% will call it cheat!

Donk is 1 out of like 8 billion people. You're never going to ever play against Donk, or anyone close to his skill level, ever, never ever... Smoke some more copium on your little 1 year account bro.. You bring 0 facts, except your word, and from what you've posted your word isn't sht..... 1 year account smacking off.... stfu

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