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disiznogud 25. apr. kl. 5:54
CS2 MM is Dead – Cheaters Run Wild and Valve Doesn't Give a Damn
Many of you talking about MM being ok, I'm talking about Premier mode only basically.
And no, I do not call for "cheaters" every match I've been playing, I just see that is statistically getting worse by my perspective

Let’s be real here. In 2025, a multi-billion dollar game like CS2 still can’t handle cheaters, and VAC is a joke. Even the most basic stuff like Osiris and stupid injectors goes completely undetected, and don’t even get me started on the premium cheaters using kernel-level hacks—they’re spinning without a care in the world.

Wallhacks are 100% undetected, and at this point, it feels like almost everyone is running some kind of cheat. Matchmaking is completely dead. If you want a clean experience, you have to play FaceIT. But here’s the real kicker: on Windows 11, you’re forced to enable Memory Integrity just to play FaceIT, which tanks performance and stability by 20%.


So now you have two choices:

Playing MM and dealing with cheaters possibly ruining many matches.

Playing FaceIT but suffer a performance hit just to use their anti-cheat and/or VBS.

Why is Valve not addressing this? Every update focuses on useless cases and skins while CS2’s integrity crumbles. Meanwhile, games with actual anti-cheats like VALORANT manages to do a way better job.

Is anyone actually having a clean experience in ranked?
The transition from CS:GO to CS2 brought major changes—some good, some incomplete. One major gap? Anti-cheat.

VAC is sh1:T. Osiris and even basic stuff still undetected.

AImbots openly ruining games with no fear of bans.

Wallhack-as-a-Requirement. It’s no longer “some” players cheating

At this point, CS2 MM feels unplayable. This isn’t just bad luck—it’s a so damn clear pattern.

Third-Party Services Are Doing Valve’s Job
FaceIT has better anti-cheat, live moderation, and real consequences for cheaters.

Their anti-cheat requires kernel access, but at least it works.

Their reports are actually reviewed.

So why isn’t Valve stepping up? CS2 is a brand-new game. This was their chance to introduce real-time moderation, a more aggressive AC, or at least a clearer policy on enforcement.

Overwatch, Trust Factor, and the Transparency Black Hole
Remember Overwatch? It helped in CS:GO, but was slow and ineffective against advanced cheats. What’s Valve’s plan for CS2? Are they improving it? Expanding it? Killing it? Nobody knows—because they don’t communicate. But I just think they've killed it.

Same with Trust Factor.

It’s a black box. We don’t know what impacts it.

It clearly isn’t filtering cheaters properly.

It needs to be more transparent and reward clean players.

It Seems like THE MORE YOU WIN, the more the trust factor wants to TEST YOU, high K/D --> 90% cheater.
One of the biggest frustrations isn’t just that cheaters exist—it’s that Valve stays silent.

Where are the ban wave stats? Riot and Ubisoft publish their data—Valve doesn’t.

Where’s the roadmap? Are they working on better detection? New moderation tools?

Why prioritize cases and skins over core gameplay integrity?

They don’t have to reveal technical details—just show the community that action is being taken.

What Can We Do?
Spam Post clips & discussions. Visibility forces action.

Support constructive feedback threads. A united, rational voice is harder to ignore.

Content creators & pros need to step up. Their reach can pressure Valve into responding.

Final Thoughts
It’s easy to say "Valve doesn’t care", but that won’t fix the game. What will? Pressure. Transparency. Real solutions.

We love CS. That’s why we’re pissed off. That’s why we need change. And that’s why Valve needs to step up—NOW.

Thanks for the attention, idgaf if it's useless or what writing all this I just wanted to say something about it.

This is the thread from REDDIT - https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1j2blvh/cs2_mm_is_dead_cheaters_run_wild_and_valve_doesnt/
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Vanilla 25. apr. kl. 6:02 
Couldn't agree more, I doubt the player base is more than 200K because of bot servers running in private matches. The subtick sucks and ill be switching to Valorant for better shooting experience. They really fell off
Nikthetrik 25. apr. kl. 6:06 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Vanilla:
Couldn't agree more, I doubt the player base is more than 200K because of bot servers running in private matches. The subtick sucks and ill be switching to Valorant for better shooting experience. They really fell off
You do know there are servers in other countries…..
Chiyoko 25. apr. kl. 6:10 
The part about TF matches you with cheaters according to your KD is clearly wrong.
I had ~2.5 average KD in CS:GO and still barely had any cheaters in my matches.
Yet when I was in a lobby with a player from lower TF pool (got the warning message) my matches were a nightmare full of rage-cheaters.

Also Overwatch was basically effective against everything but radars, yet the problem was that eventually OW got overtaken by bots that made wrong verdicts on purpose making even spinbots not banned anymore. Most likely exactly because of that there is no public OW in CS2 at the moment.
Oprindeligt skrevet af a:
The part about TF matches you with cheaters according to your KD is clearly wrong.I had ~2.5 average KD in CS:GO and still barely had any cheaters in my matches.Yet when I was in a lobby with a player from lower TF pool (got the warning message) my matches were a nightmare full of rage-cheaters.Also Overwatch was basically effective against everything but radars, yet the problem was that eventually OW got overtaken by bots that made wrong verdicts on purpose making even spinbots not banned anymore. Most likely exactly because of that there is no public OW in CS2 at the moment.
It's fascinating to hear about your experiences!
Player skill and Trust Factor are complex systems, constantly evolving. The goal with CS2 is always a fair and balanced competitive environment for everyone. Remember, we have VAC safeguarding the integrity of the game, making sure every match is played on a level playing field :steamhappy:.



Thanks For Reading My Insight.
ATLAS 25. apr. kl. 6:51 
cool thread. shove it down their throat!
ATLAS 25. apr. kl. 6:53 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Cosmo:
Only when, if Microsoft or someone else buys a garbage dump, then the situation will change

if microsoft buy it the game will die tho.
i'd much rather see elon musk buy it.
he might be just be able to fix it.
yeti 25. apr. kl. 6:56 
i gave up on comp modes too many cheaters. Now theres at least 1 cheater per game in casual.
undefined 25. apr. kl. 9:04 
They're not required to do anything about cheaters, it's that simple. The game is profitable and that's all that matters. The soyboys get their bright colorful Saturday morning cartoon graphics style, buy their rainbow skins, and Valve gets paid.

If you expect more that's on you. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.
CS2 Community Leader™® (Udelukket) 25. apr. kl. 9:06 
Oprindeligt skrevet af a:
They're not required to do anything about cheaters, it's that simple. The game is profitable and that's all that matters. The soyboys get their bright colorful Saturday morning cartoon graphics style, buy their rainbow skins, and Valve gets paid.If you expect more that's on you. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.
That's a pretty pessimistic view, friend. :steamsad:
CS2 is a masterpiece built by the incredible minds at Valve. They've poured their hearts into creating an immersive and competitive experience for us all.
Let's focus on celebrating the game's strengths and enjoying the amazing community. :steamhappy:


Thanks For Reading My Insight.
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